# It's time to officially Pit Joe Paterno and the Penn State football program. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 7, 2011, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167 "2011-11-07T14:23:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 251
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5003 "2012-10-04T05:50:50Z")
> [@RaftPeople](#): > > Does it bother you that we post in this thread? No, not really. just curious why so many people are so invested in what starving artist thinks. > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I haven’t said either of the things you’ve attributed to me. If you can’t pose your question honestly, I’m not going to respond. That’s the spirit! ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5004 "2012-10-04T05:51:24Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Sorry, homes! It wasn’t intentional. Buds? 🙂 It’s Holmes. And…yeah sure, whatever. I’ve had more bone-headed friends in the past. > [@Bryan Ekers](#): > > Who gives a fuck about #4950? I want post #5000 Oh hot damn, you’re right! But, I betcha 50 quatloos it’s gonna be **SA** after another exitus interruptus… ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5005 "2012-10-04T05:57:57Z")
I can only read SAs post as the Black Knight in The Holy Grail. “I am invincible!” “You’re a loony.” ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5006 "2012-10-04T06:13:08Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > No, not really. just curious why so many people are so invested in what starving artist thinks. It’s because they know they’re wrong and I keep rubbing their faces in it. It wounds their pride and frustrates them so they have to keep trying to find some way to try to prove I’m wrong about _something_. Failing that, as we’ve seen tonight, they’ll seek solace in greater numbers by breaking out of the thread and seeking support amongst the board at large. It’s quite amusing. > [@Autolycus](#): > > It’s Holmes. [I think you’re wrong about that, white boy.](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=homes) Hah! Do you realize that you’ve not only been out-Ninja’d by **Starving Artist** tonight, but out-ghettoed too? You may now have no hope of ever attaining any kind of cool whatsoever, ever. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5007 "2012-10-04T06:13:13Z")
5000th post, bitches! I got yer tube right here! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5008 "2012-10-04T06:20:16Z")
Anyway, that meaningless milestone is all I can really expect from this thread. There’s certainly no edification in watching Starving Artist lie, then lie about his lies, then claim amusement and victory in lying about his lies. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5009 "2012-10-04T06:24:08Z")
Who’s up for another 5000 posts? We already know we can count on SA for a good 1/8 of them. Also, is it fair to blame (thank?) R.P. McMurphy for this thread and all of Starving Artist’s subsequent posts… or would the paper towel tube test have arisen on its own eventually in another thread? I see this as akin to the idea that Gutenberg invented the printing press, sure, but SOMEONE would have invented it soon anyway so he doesn’t deserve too much credit. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5010 "2012-10-04T06:27:12Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > 5000th post, bitches! I got yer tube right here! I’ve only read the last couple pages of this thread, but the fact that you were all vying for this post is hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![NoLittlePlans](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8797f3/32.png) [@NoLittlePlans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NoLittlePlans)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5011 "2012-10-04T06:27:35Z")
Joe Paterno Fired, Others Not: Attorney General’s Office Has ‘Concern’ By Colleen Curry Nov. 10, 2011 Pennsylvania’s attorney general has voiced “concern” over Penn State University’s firing of legendary football coach Joe Paterno and the treatment of other witnesses and officials involved in a child sexual abuse case. Nils Hagen-Frederiksen, a spokesman for the Pennsylvania attorney general’s office, noted that the two officials charged with perjury and failure to report the abuse are being defended by the university, while Paterno was fired. “We have a cooperating witness [Paterno], an individual who testified, provided truthful testimony,” Hagen-Frederiksen told [ABCNews.com](http://ABCNews.com), “but two others who were found by a grand jury to commit perjury whose legal expenses are being paid for university. One is on administrative leave. Very interesting development.” “It’s certainly curious and [has] not been explained yet,” he said. “Speaking as a prosecuting agency, we have a cooperating witness who has not been charged, while two individuals accused of committing crimes continue to be affiliated.” [http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2805796/posts](http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2805796/posts) ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5012 "2012-10-04T06:28:26Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > I see this as akin to the idea that Gutenberg invented the printing press, sure, but SOMEONE would have invented it soon anyway so he doesn’t deserve too much credit. Well, there were some early proto-versions of this thread. The fist-ass disk, as it were. [sub] archaeology humour…[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5013 "2012-10-04T06:29:10Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > I’ve only read the last couple pages of this thread, but the fact that you were all vying for this post is hilarious. Well, to be fair I was only vying for the 100th page and the 200,000th page view. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5014 "2012-10-04T06:34:05Z")
Yeah… my unsmileyed pun is wittier than all your posts combined, SA. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5015 "2012-10-04T06:35:53Z")
Only 118 more page views and I can call it a night! ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5016 "2012-10-04T06:36:45Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > [I think you’re wrong about that, white boy.](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=homes) > > Hah! Do you realize that you’ve not only been out-Ninja’d by **Starving Artist** tonight, but out-ghettoed too? You may now have no hope of ever attaining any kind of cool whatsoever, ever. Sorry [Holmes](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Holmes), but you’re so white you make Casper look like Wesley Snipes. My coolness, however little there is, remains. > [@Heffalump and Roo](#): > > ]I’ve only read the last couple pages of this thread, but the fact that you were all vying for this post is hilarious. If life lines up 100 lemons, you stuff them through a cardboard tube and make lemonade, or something. (And a hearty fist-shake to **Bryan Ekers** for getting 5000th post. I study kanji for one freaking hour when most of you should be asleep, and I miss my big chance for [del]glory[/del] [del]fun[/del]… something..) ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5017 "2012-10-04T06:44:04Z")
On a purely technical issue, if another thread gets merged with this one, will its posts get inserted in order of posting time, disrupting the existing sequence? Having the 5000th could be only a temporary laurel, if recent experience is any guide. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5018 "2012-10-04T06:44:21Z")
> [@Autolycus](#): > > Sorry [Holmes](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Holmes), but you’re so white you make Casper look like Wesley Snipes. My coolness, however little there is, remains. Hmm…it seems we have conflicting ghetto slang. I’ma have to check it out with my gangbangin’ Latino homeboy who works at the nearby Walmart, 'cause I definitely wanna keep it real up in here and I know damn well he calls me “homes.” ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5019 "2012-10-04T06:45:44Z")
> [@Autolycus](#): > > If life lines up 100 lemons, you stuff them through a cardboard tube and make lemonade, or something. If you line up 100 lemons, you’re supposed to ask them if they would prefer to be squeezed by hand, or juiced in a juicer. But yes, either way, you make lemonade and go to jail for heinous crimes. ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5020 "2012-10-04T07:07:29Z")
Anyone else notice SA is on auto response, this one twice but in both cases it didn’t really make sense (and I think I actually remember it from way earlier in the thread, but I could be mistaken): “I haven’t said either of the things you’ve attributed to me. If you can’t pose your question honestly, I’m not going to respond.” ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5021 "2012-10-04T07:09:01Z")
#2098: > [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > I hate this thread. This thread should have wrapped up 20 pages ago. It should have been the rare thread where everyone is mostly on the same page. > > But no. Here we are, 20 extra pages later, and this thread is still popping up with updates on my list. And I have **SA** and his little enabler **Fotheringay-Phipps** to thank for it. #3955: > [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > Now that defending Paterno is clearly a bullshit proposition, I wanna see whether F-P can get this thread through another 20 pages of nonsense by the sheer force of his asshattery. Damn you all to hell. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5022 "2012-10-04T07:24:31Z")
> [@RaftPeople](#): > > Anyone else notice SA is on auto response, this one twice but in both cases it didn’t really make sense (and I think I actually remember it from way earlier in the thread, but I could be mistaken): > > “I haven’t said either of the things you’ve attributed to me. If you can’t pose your question honestly, I’m not going to respond.” How does it not make sense? In each case the poster was lying about what I’d said. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167.md?page=250) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167.md?page=252)