# It's time to officially Pit Joe Paterno and the Penn State football program. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 7, 2011, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167 "2011-11-07T14:23:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 265
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5283 "2012-10-09T07:53:15Z")
> [@R.P.McMurphy](#): > > Who are you going to believe, Jerry Sandusky or McQueary and a bunch of victim’s lying eyes? > > Those lying eyes . . . > > We know what SA believes. What about the rest of you? R.P. McMurphy!!! You’re back! You haven’t posted in this thread in a long time 🙂 And as far as what I believe, well, the paper towel tube test doesn’t lie! ---
**Author:** ![Bumbershoot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bumbershoot/32/3428_2.png) [@Bumbershoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bumbershoot)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5284 "2012-10-09T13:09:00Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Actually, in some ways, I don’t think he’s actually _lying_. Oh, when he says he didn’t molest those kids. He knows he did it. But I think on some level, Sandusky truly doesn’t believe he did anything wrong. I honestly think that he believes that he was helping those kids, that what he did was right. I think he’s that deluded, and he thinks that they actually had a relationship that was normal and perfectly healthy. > > He’s that deluded. Next I expect him to paraphrase O J Simpson: “Even if I did this, it would have to have been because I loved them very much, right?” ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5285 "2012-10-09T13:25:35Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > And as far as what I believe, well, the paper towel tube test doesn’t lie! What? You mean **SA** finally got a real “A” vote? :eek: [sub]I know, you were joking, right? Tell me that was a joke…[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![NoLittlePlans](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8797f3/32.png) [@NoLittlePlans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NoLittlePlans)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5286 "2012-10-09T13:44:59Z")
Might want to turn on the news (CNN?) because Jerry is minutes away from receiving his sentence and delivering a speech to the public followed by additional statements from a number of his victims. ---
**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5287 "2012-10-09T14:10:36Z")
i expect he will say something like, ‘if the paper towel tube doesn’t fit …’. ---
**Author:** ![NoLittlePlans](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8797f3/32.png) [@NoLittlePlans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NoLittlePlans)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5288 "2012-10-09T14:27:38Z")
[Jerry Sandusky has been sentenced to 30 to 60 years of prison](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A4t-5-PCYAAdznc.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5289 "2012-10-09T14:41:08Z")
I don’t think that’s the link you meant to post… ---
**Author:** ![Bambro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df705f/32.png) [@Bambro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bambro)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5290 "2012-10-09T14:41:50Z")
wtf? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5291 "2012-10-09T14:43:15Z")
So who’s that guy? Sandusky’s roommate or something? ---
**Author:** ![NoLittlePlans](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8797f3/32.png) [@NoLittlePlans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NoLittlePlans)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5292 "2012-10-09T14:45:51Z")
RT @LC\_Nichols: Karl Rominger: Filing appeals right now, will be within 10 days of #Sandusky sentencing. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5293 "2012-10-09T14:54:02Z")
Jesus. When did this place turn into fucking Twitter? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5294 "2012-10-09T14:56:19Z")
Are you okay, **NLP**? Are you having a stroke or something? > [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > So who’s that guy? Sandusky’s roommate or something? I dunno but I think all mugshots should come with an Ominous Halo. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5295 "2012-10-09T14:56:49Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Jesus. When did this place turn into fucking Twitter? Well, on a story like this, seconds count. Sloppy though they may be. ---
**Author:** ![NoLittlePlans](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8797f3/32.png) [@NoLittlePlans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NoLittlePlans)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5296 "2012-10-09T15:01:45Z")
Oh, nevermind that pedophile Stephen Jenson guy. Even though he was studying to be a pediatrician at the University of Michigan and revealed to be a pedophile, senior school administrators covered up the allegations and allowed Jenson to keep studying for a profession that would grant him unlimited access to the prepubescent targets of his sexual fantasies in and around Ann Arbor. The University of Michigan’s internal cover-up of a known pedophile was quietly triggered by all the publicity in the Second Mile Sandusky Scandal and the ensuing feelings of shame and disgrace led to suicide by the University of Michigan’s Head of Police (UM’s Gary Schultz). But the public doesn’t seem very interested in that story. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5297 "2012-10-09T15:18:17Z")
[A story about Stephen Jensen.](http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jul/15/nation/la-na-nn-penn-state-michigan-sex-allegations-20120715) Here’s the difference. When people realized that the allegations had not been reported to the authorities in a timely manner (more due to neglect than a cover-up), they actually did something and reported it to the proper authorities, rather than just saying “Lah-de-dah, must be fine” and allowing him to go on downloading kiddie porn for a decade. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5298 "2012-10-09T15:19:44Z")
> [@NoLittlePlans](#): > > Oh, nevermind that pedophile Stephen Jenson guy. Even though he was studying to be a pediatrician at the University of Michigan and revealed to be a pedophile, senior school administrators covered up the allegations and allowed Jenson to keep studying for a profession that would grant him unlimited access to the prepubescent targets of his sexual fantasies in and around Ann Arbor. The University of Michigan’s internal cover-up of a known pedophile was quietly triggered by all the publicity in the Second Mile Sandusky Scandal and the ensuing feelings of shame and disgrace led to suicide by the University of Michigan’s Head of Police (UM’s Gary Schultz). But the public doesn’t seem very interested in that story. Well for one thing, that case is about possession of kiddie porn, not serial child molestation. But why don’t you start a thread offering “proof” that Jenson couldn’t possibly have been in possession of child pornography because of an experiment you did with a USB drive, and praising the hospital administrators for being men and women of integrity who had no obligation to report what they knew and are being unfairly railroaded, and we’ll see how far we can take it. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5299 "2012-10-09T15:21:10Z")
Also, I am not finding anything about UM’s police chief committing suicide. I find a ton of articles about the chief from EASTERN Michigan killing himself. Do you have a name for that guy? ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5300 "2012-10-09T15:38:35Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Well for one thing, that case is about possession of kiddie porn, not serial child molestation. But why don’t you start a thread offering “proof” that Jenson couldn’t possibly have been in possession of child pornography because of an experiment you did with a USB drive, and praising the hospital administrators for being men and women of integrity who had no obligation to report what they knew and are being unfairly railroaded, and we’ll see how far we can take it. Well the Internet is a series of tubes… ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5301 "2012-10-09T15:46:53Z")
> [@NoLittlePlans](#): > > Oh, nevermind that pedophile Stephen Jenson guy. How tall is the dude? Huh? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/5302 "2012-10-09T15:52:26Z")
I’m curious as to what [this malarkey from Sandusky](http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2012-10-09/jerry-sandusky-sentence-30-60-years-sexual-abuse-trial-penn-state?ncid=webmail1) may mean? > [@](#): > > We are going to smile through the pain. We’re going to laugh. We’re going to cry. Because that’s who we are. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167.md?page=264) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167.md?page=266)