# It's time to officially Pit Joe Paterno and the Penn State football program. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 7, 2011, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167 "2011-11-07T14:23:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 4260
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2012, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167/4260 "2012-09-23T15:33:11Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > What you’re doing now, **Starving Artist** , is retroactively moving your goalposts and then declaring victory. Same as it ever was. Here’s what i said to **Starving Artist** after a similar bout of dishonesty five years ago: > [@Der Trihs, any chance of you giving it a rest?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/der-trihs-any-chance-of-you-giving-it-a-rest/400767/72): > > I’d accuse you of moving the goalposts to suit your needs, but that would be an understatement of the mendacity of your debating style. > > First you move the goalposts. > > Then you dig up the goalposts and hide them around behind the bleachers. > > Then you come back and fill in the hole where the goalposts were, and, while tamping down the last of the earth with your shovel, deny that the goalposts ever existed at all and insist that this has always been a cow paddock. > > Then, while your opposition wonders what the hell is going on, you put the goalposts back in place again and start shouting at him to hurry up and kick the ball already. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-time-to-officially-pit-joe-paterno-and-the-penn-state-football-program/602167)._