# It's very wrong, and she's very bad, but I find leash girl to be quite attractive

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 13, 2004, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-very-wrong-and-shes-very-bad-but-i-find-leash-girl-to-be-quite-attractive/244957 "2004-05-13T14:31:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-very-wrong-and-shes-very-bad-but-i-find-leash-girl-to-be-quite-attractive/244957/61 "2004-05-14T17:14:55Z")

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That’s a face only a muzzle could love.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-very-wrong-and-shes-very-bad-but-i-find-leash-girl-to-be-quite-attractive/244957/62 "2004-05-14T17:37:42Z")

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> [@Strainger](#):
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> Oh my God. If those are the pictures that haven’t been released yet, then let them remain forever hidden from the public.

[/url=http://www.thestranger.com/2004-05-13/grab\_bag.html]There is an alternative. (Warning: Extremely dark humor.)

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-very-wrong-and-shes-very-bad-but-i-find-leash-girl-to-be-quite-attractive/244957/63 "2004-05-14T17:38:59Z")

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[Gah](http://www.thestranger.com/2004-05-13/grab_bag.html)!

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-very-wrong-and-shes-very-bad-but-i-find-leash-girl-to-be-quite-attractive/244957/64 "2004-05-14T17:54:48Z")

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She’s [Butch](http://members.tripod.com/~plantation/dedication.htm)!

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**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-very-wrong-and-shes-very-bad-but-i-find-leash-girl-to-be-quite-attractive/244957/65 "2004-05-14T18:08:00Z")

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I’d hit it.

With a large blunt object.

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**Author:** ![Balle\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/13edae/32.png) [@Balle\_M](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balle_M)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-very-wrong-and-shes-very-bad-but-i-find-leash-girl-to-be-quite-attractive/244957/66 "2004-05-14T19:37:59Z")

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That’s the problem with living here in West Virginnie…

As soon as they turn 18 all the good-lookin’ gals move somewhere nicer.

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**Author:** ![Hyperelastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Hyperelastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hyperelastic)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-very-wrong-and-shes-very-bad-but-i-find-leash-girl-to-be-quite-attractive/244957/67 "2004-05-15T04:22:36Z")

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> [@Hal Briston](#):
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> I’m thinking more along the lines of [\*\*\*Mason \* \*\* Reese](http://www.venice-florida.com/graphics/corwin/corwin13b.jpg).

I just suffered a compound fracture of my funny bone. I always wondered whatever happened to that kid!

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**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-very-wrong-and-shes-very-bad-but-i-find-leash-girl-to-be-quite-attractive/244957/68 "2004-05-15T04:28:21Z")

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Oghod, somebody had to go and mention Mason Reese…

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-very-wrong-and-shes-very-bad-but-i-find-leash-girl-to-be-quite-attractive/244957/69 "2004-05-15T05:09:54Z")

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There was a picture of her on the front page of a free newspaper. I was shocked because she looks like a pixie or something. But then I looked at the leash picture again. Nope. More like a troll doll.

I guess the way a person acts does have an effect on how they look. To me.

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**Author:** ![Never\_to\_be\_Queen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Never\_to\_be\_Queen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Never_to_be_Queen)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-very-wrong-and-shes-very-bad-but-i-find-leash-girl-to-be-quite-attractive/244957/70 "2004-05-15T05:27:39Z")

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Chipmunk-cheeked, short, pixie-like girls are your friends.

Well, maybe not this particular girl…

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**Author:** ![DougC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@DougC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DougC)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-very-wrong-and-shes-very-bad-but-i-find-leash-girl-to-be-quite-attractive/244957/71 "2004-05-15T10:37:31Z")

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    - This was pointed out on another forum I frequent–a lot of guys commented how ugly this girl looked, which simply isn’t true. She has no makeup on and has a butch haircut, but that’s really about the worst you could say. There’s a website somewhere that has photos of movie and TV celebrities caught without makeup, and most of them look pretty nauseating too. As for the butch haircut, a lot of women do that in the service to avoid the hassle of dealing with longer hair. Even though they are permitted grow it longer than that, it’s simply much easier to cut it short for the duration.

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> I think a reprimand and a couple of months in prison max is all England should get, based on what we’ve seen to date. 15 years in prison for posing for photos under orders from her chain of command is frickin insane. - **Evil Captor**

- As to what she _did_, we do not know the full circumstances yet, but I agree in that from a historical perspective, the stupid frat-boy initiation stuff we have been shown so far is “torture” _in only the mildest sense of the word_. Read up on what has been used in other wars, or even… what Saddam was up until recently doing to people he’d arrested in his own country. When I think of things like “torture”, I tend to think of things like being burned with red-hot branding irons or welding torches, sawing off limbs, ect. Being forced into doing stupid poses while naked doesn’t even rank on my scale of horrors.  
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**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-very-wrong-and-shes-very-bad-but-i-find-leash-girl-to-be-quite-attractive/244957/72 "2004-05-15T19:03:37Z")

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**DougC**  
Agreed. The Iraqi prisoner photos might be embarassing but are _miles_ away from torture.  
Here’s a link about Ms England having sex with her military buddies - [http://news.newkerala.com/world-news/?action=fullnews&id=17032](http://news.newkerala.com/world-news/?action=fullnews&id=17032)  
Sorry - no pictures. My point being, that headline exudes such outrage that Private England was having sex AND the Iraqis were “forced” to watch !!  
Oh the atrocities !! Oh please !!! I’ll take _that_ to being flayed alive, having electrodes on various parts of my body, etc. any day of the week.  
Also, as others have said, what did the previous ruler of that country do to his own people? Then again, ask the people of Kuwait about the courteous treatment shown to them by invading Iraqi soldiers.  
Another thing that upsets me is that American troops were sent to fight in a foreign country by an administration whose people did their darndest to avoid fighting in a war when it was _their_ turn:

- George “Fought Vietnam In Texas” Bush; Dick “Had Other Priorities” Cheney; John Ashcroft, etc.  
I will be outraged if “Dubya” (or others) uses these soldiers as a scapegoat and excessively punishes them or expresses extreme moral outrage when they themselves escaped the “horrors” of war.

AND not to get away from the OP - heck I think Ms England is cute. (I’ve been trying to cite a better photo than the one in the OP but the only other one I can find is the infamous “leash” portrait.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-very-wrong-and-shes-very-bad-but-i-find-leash-girl-to-be-quite-attractive/244957/73 "2004-05-15T20:27:51Z")

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> [@wolf\_meister](#):
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> **DougC**  
> AND not to get away from the OP - heck I think Ms England is cute. (I’ve been trying to cite a better photo than the one in the OP but the only other one I can find is the infamous “leash” portrait.

[Here’s a better one before she got pregnant.](http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Photos/mag/040524_Issue/040515_Lynndie_vl.vmedium.jpg). She a little bit puffy right now being several months pregnant.

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**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-very-wrong-and-shes-very-bad-but-i-find-leash-girl-to-be-quite-attractive/244957/74 "2004-05-15T20:37:28Z")

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Yes **astro** - good work - much better than that “Danny Bonaduce” photo.

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**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-very-wrong-and-shes-very-bad-but-i-find-leash-girl-to-be-quite-attractive/244957/75 "2004-05-16T01:19:48Z")

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Now that I think of it, since we are discussing the attractiveness of a servicewoman, wouldn’t it be great if Lynndie England looked like **Corporal Ferro** form “Aliens” ?

“In the pipe five by five”.

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**Author:** ![FilmGeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@FilmGeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FilmGeek)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/its-very-wrong-and-shes-very-bad-but-i-find-leash-girl-to-be-quite-attractive/244957/76 "2004-05-16T01:57:11Z")

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Actually, she’s exactly the sort of boyish girl that I’m attracted to.

So, **astro** I’m with you.

What she did was wrong, but damn, she’s kinda cute.

[![](http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/images/2004/05/08/image616334x.jpg) ](http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/images/2004/05/08/image616334x.jpg)

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