# ITT: FXMastermind presents his evidence that climategate was scientifically meaningful **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 28, 2014, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/itt-fxmastermind-presents-his-evidence-that-climategate-was-scientifically-meaningful/679981 "2014-01-28T20:55:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2014, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/itt-fxmastermind-presents-his-evidence-that-climategate-was-scientifically-meaningful/679981/161 "2014-02-19T15:01:08Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > One thing is for sure, when he wakes up, this will be his first topic to check. And he will spend another unemployed day posting in it. Even on this you are wrong, and the SDMB is the only site I’m allowed to check by my boss. He appreciates the information we got from the SDMB on some cultist books that tried to pass as text books. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2014, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/itt-fxmastermind-presents-his-evidence-that-climategate-was-scientifically-meaningful/679981/162 "2014-02-19T15:21:44Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > What a steaming pile of horseshit. On the contrary, unlike you I can be confident on telling all to go to the thread you are linking to because I do show that that was the truth. As SDMB alumni The Bad Astronomer can tell you: [https://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/08/24/case-closed-climategate-was-manufactured/](https://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/08/24/case-closed-climategate-was-manufactured/) > [@](#): > > This latest, and hopefully last, investigation into Dr. Mann’s research (PDF) again shows he is not guilty of misconduct. A couple of the report conclusions are worth pointing out: > > > [@](#): > > > > We found no basis to conclude that the [Climategate] emails were evidence of research misconduct or that they pointed to such evidence. > > That’s clear enough, I think. They also said: > > > [@](#): > > > > There is no specific evidence that [Mann] falsified or fabricated any data and no evidence that his actions amounted to research misconduct. > > A big claim by the \*\*deniers \*\*is that researchers were using “tricks” to falsify conclusions about global warming, but the NSF report is pretty clear that’s not true. The most damning thing the investigators could muster was that there was “some concern” over the statistical methods used, but that’s not scandalous at all; there’s always some argument in science over methodology. The vague language of the report there indicates to me this isn’t a big deal, or else they would’ve been specific. The big point is that the data were not faked. > > What does this mean for global warming? A lot of these attacks can be traced back to the famous “hockey stick” diagram, showing how Earth’s temperatures have been increasing rapidly in recent times. This graph is what really clinches the idea of man-made global warming, and so has been the epicenter of the manufactroversy. The fact that Dr. Mann has been cleared again, and that his data are good, shows that this graph is even more solid — or at least is not as weak as so many would lead you to believe. > > And what does this mean about “ClimateGate”? That’s clear enough: all the outrage, all the claims of fraud and fakery, were just — haha — hot air. > > Not that this will stop or even slow down the denial machine. Politicians from the Virginia State Attorney General to members of the House of Representatives have been on what I would characterize as witch hunts. Dr. Mann has been vocal in his opposition, and I applaud him. Still, needless to say, the attacks will continue. > [@FXMastermind](#): > > Sure they can, just like they can say climategate means nothing, there was zero evidence of any wrong, all the emails show nothing is wrong at all. > > They handwave it away, and then get mad when you laugh at them. because it doesn’t get much more like denial than to simply deny everything you don’t like. > > Grow up and realize that if you are playing, you are going to take some hits. Quit crying about it. And follow the goddamn rules. Sure, do you follow any? You only show that you will listen to yahoos that are ignorant. You are a denier because you even deny that investigations were made and no issues were found with the science, the only thing deniers showed what that scientists are human and they can resort to thrash talk. And even there, there is a reason for the trash talk, as the release 2.0 of the emails showed Mann actually got in contact with one of his harsher critics and with him released a new survey of the paleo data that confirmed what he reported early. FX even \*\*denies \*\*what the leakers of the emails reported. FX needs more than growing up, the troll still needs to get out of preschool. ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2014, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/itt-fxmastermind-presents-his-evidence-that-climategate-was-scientifically-meaningful/679981/163 "2014-02-19T21:13:35Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Balls in your court. Says the fool furiously fondling the balls in _his_ ‘court’. Still Going!.. ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2014, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/itt-fxmastermind-presents-his-evidence-that-climategate-was-scientifically-meaningful/679981/164 "2014-02-19T21:58:39Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > I’m sorry what I meant to say was: > > Wrong again. You trolling, coward, lying, quote molesting, tool of the Daily Fail and the banned Poptech; Jerk, hypocrite, dishonest, can not read cites and is not aware of context, and does not know how to count words. > > (seems that he is even proud on telling others that he has no clue about word count and calls posts like this one a wall of text, maybe he is still in middle school) You forgot to include the ‘wall of links’ he predicted. You, therefore, fail, and he wins, by his rules. He’s still banging his ‘energizer of stupid’ bunny drum. Bang…Bang…Bang… Still Going! Too bad it only ‘energizes’ his own masturbatory fantasies, eh? ---
**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2014, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/itt-fxmastermind-presents-his-evidence-that-climategate-was-scientifically-meaningful/679981/165 "2014-02-19T22:11:44Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > And then, just to make sure, his quote of \*\*sleestak \*\*was confirmed to be a failure by not dealing at all with what the Union of concerned scientists found out about climate gate and the result of the investigations made. > > [Debunking Misinformation About Stolen Climate Emails | Union of Concerned Scientists](http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/solutions/fight-misinformation/debunking-misinformation-stolen-emails-climategate.html) Just to recap this point: reviews of scientific misconduct commissioned by the employers of those accused of misconduct found, to the surprise of all, that no misconduct had been committed. In other news, the NYPD’s review of officer misconduct in the Amadou Diallo [shooting](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Amadou_Diallo) found that four officers who shot 41 times on an unarmed civilian had also acted properly. And now, back to your regularly scheduled programme. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2014, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/itt-fxmastermind-presents-his-evidence-that-climategate-was-scientifically-meaningful/679981/166 "2014-02-19T22:22:51Z")
> [@neuroman](#): > > Just to recap this point: reviews of scientific misconduct commissioned by the employers of those accused of misconduct found, to the surprise of all, that no misconduct had been committed. > > In other news, the NYPD’s review of officer misconduct in the Amadou Diallo [shooting](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Amadou_Diallo) found that four officers who shot 41 times on an unarmed civilian had also acted properly. > > And now, back to your regularly scheduled programme. Just to point out that you showed all that you do not read, they link to other investigations, even by the press, so it was not just what you claim here. And now, back to a few clueless guys that are willing to be burned defending a loopy conspiracy theorist. And to guys that are smarter that realize FX is a “pitcher has no arms. Or legs. He just sorta spits the ball towards the plate” like even \*\*sleestak \*\*realized FX is. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2014, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/itt-fxmastermind-presents-his-evidence-that-climategate-was-scientifically-meaningful/679981/167 "2014-02-19T22:22:57Z")
> [@neuroman](#): > > JIn other news, the NYPD’s review of officer misconduct in the Amadou Diallo [shooting](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Amadou_Diallo) found that four officers who shot 41 times on an unarmed civilian had also acted properly. > > And now, back to your regularly scheduled programme. Same as it ever was, same as it ever was ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2014, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/itt-fxmastermind-presents-his-evidence-that-climategate-was-scientifically-meaningful/679981/168 "2014-02-19T23:54:54Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Did you notice how GIGO is oblivious to pop culture references? That explains a lot. No, but I _did_ notice how you are oblivious to anything even remotely resembling reality, so there’s that… ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/itt-fxmastermind-presents-his-evidence-that-climategate-was-scientifically-meaningful/679981/169 "2014-02-20T00:05:52Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Today 09:28 AM > > You are not sleeping well. Seriously dude. Take a break, go outside. Live! I have not posted much on this topic. I’m just here to chime in that you are an enormous, ass, and are achieving the feat of continually embarrassing yourself with your displays of complete ignorance, which are topped only by your astounding arrogance. Keep it up! ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/itt-fxmastermind-presents-his-evidence-that-climategate-was-scientifically-meaningful/679981/170 "2014-02-20T00:45:57Z")
Calm down. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/itt-fxmastermind-presents-his-evidence-that-climategate-was-scientifically-meaningful/679981/171 "2014-02-20T02:19:26Z")
Smoke Luckies. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/itt-fxmastermind-presents-his-evidence-that-climategate-was-scientifically-meaningful/679981/172 "2014-02-20T19:00:26Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Calm down. I’m quite calm, thanks for your concern. Just thought you might like to know that to an outside observer, you appear to be unintelligent, a dishonest debater, and really quite a sad person altogether. That’s all. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/itt-fxmastermind-presents-his-evidence-that-climategate-was-scientifically-meaningful/679981/173 "2014-02-20T19:26:51Z")
Then you know how you and the rest of the screeching monkeys of doom appear to rational folk, most of whom would never read a pit thread of course. But if they did… ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/itt-fxmastermind-presents-his-evidence-that-climategate-was-scientifically-meaningful/679981/174 "2014-02-20T20:01:04Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Then you know how you and the rest of the screeching monkeys of doom appear to rational folk, most of whom would never read a pit thread of course. But if they did… So…is it your position that anyone who might read your posts and come to the conclusion that you’re a troll and kind of a dick must perforce be a “screeching [monkey] of doom?” . ---
**Author:** ![statij](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@statij](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/statij)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/itt-fxmastermind-presents-his-evidence-that-climategate-was-scientifically-meaningful/679981/175 "2014-02-20T20:14:44Z")
Regards, statij Screeching Monkey of Doom ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/itt-fxmastermind-presents-his-evidence-that-climategate-was-scientifically-meaningful/679981/176 "2014-02-20T20:21:56Z")
> [@statij](#): > > Screeching Monkey of Doom I loved them when they played before Nirvana that one time. Totally stole the show. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/itt-fxmastermind-presents-his-evidence-that-climategate-was-scientifically-meaningful/679981/177 "2014-02-20T20:58:05Z")
It’s no Nattering Nabobs of Negativity, that’s for sure. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/itt-fxmastermind-presents-his-evidence-that-climategate-was-scientifically-meaningful/679981/178 "2014-02-24T13:03:31Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Even on this you are wrong, and the SDMB is the only site I’m allowed to check by my boss. He appreciates the information we got from the SDMB on some cultist books that tried to pass as text books. > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I have not posted much on this topic. > > I’m just here to chime in that you are an enormous, ass, and are achieving the feat of continually embarrassing yourself with your displays of complete ignorance, which are topped only by your astounding arrogance. > > Keep it up! Don’t encourage him! And that wasn’t very nice what you said. GIGO is just misguided, his heart is in the right place. Can’t we all just get along? I care as much about the planet as anyone else. Why be so mean? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/itt-fxmastermind-presents-his-evidence-that-climategate-was-scientifically-meaningful/679981/179 "2014-02-24T15:41:02Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Don’t encourage him! > > And that wasn’t very nice what you said. GIGO is just misguided, his heart is in the right place. > > Can’t we all just get along? You are only weaponized ignorance. Made useless by the fact that no one will give you the time of day in science journals, academia and groups that debunk pseudoscience for a living. > [@FXMastermind](#): > > I care as much about the planet as anyone else. Why be so mean? Because the planet will be fine, the people are f\*\*\*\*\*. (George Carlin) by people like you that only spews ignorance to support inaction on this issue. The evidence only shows that “climate-gate” was a baseless scandal and conspiracy theory with no value to the science. You have only linked to stupid videos and dumb evidence in your attempt at showing that you are correct. The record so far only shows one key reason why are clueless in Great Debates, you assume that all climate scientists are part of a conspiracy. But for that to work you also deny that the evidence showed that there was no conspiracy. By this time anyone supporting you is just following a willful ignorant, and it is clear that even the ones that indirectly support you are aware that you are playing t-ball when others are playing baseball as coach \*\*sleestak \*\*reported. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/itt-fxmastermind-presents-his-evidence-that-climategate-was-scientifically-meaningful/679981/180 "2014-03-03T15:26:20Z")
No need to make a new thread as watchwolf49 has decided to jump to the defense of a cherry picker and conspiracy believer FXMastermind. Over at Great Debates the guy does not know when to keep things on the pit and when to take them over the Great Debates. He is laughable even at the meta level, and he pretends here that what was said elsewhere and the use of denier sources by FX means nothing. He really has his smart radar broken. > [@Has the world actually been cooling since 2002?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-world-actually-been-cooling-since-2002/681728/397): > > You’re lucky, **RaftPeople** , you only got called a dirty rotten denialist. **Gigo** called me ignorant first thing. Whether his intent, he only succeeds in killing every thread about climate change. I’ve noticed this is the last one, so that’s why he’s here, looking for the bogey man denying global warming. On a regular basis, his are fully half the postings whenever this subject comes up. Frankly, I’m sick of having to scroll through pages and pages just to keep a single topic in discussion. > > Even cats know when to quit (except mine, stupid fuckers). People that do not realize that being ignorant on a subject is not really an insult are really dumb. Just a continuation of what everyone else that does not have their anti-jerk/anti-ignorant radar working properly. As a poster of this thread said early about watchwolf49: > [@Hamlet](#): > > Why am I not surprised in the least that someone who, unsuccessfully of course, tries to rip down **Gigo** and build up the laughable “debating” skills of FX has the writing skills of a 6th grader, can’t spell patience, and uses the term “tufo-puking”? > > Go away kid, you bother me. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/itt-fxmastermind-presents-his-evidence-that-climategate-was-scientifically-meaningful/679981.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/itt-fxmastermind-presents-his-evidence-that-climategate-was-scientifically-meaningful/679981.md?page=10)