# Ivan

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ivan/263540>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 7, 2004, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ivan/263540 "2004-09-07T21:08:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ivan/263540/21 "2004-09-09T01:42:50Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> **Eva** , which part of our soggy, mosquito ridden abode (with lovely birds) are you going to be visiting?

My aunt’s house near Ft. Lauderdale, with a probable detour to Miami to see a childhood friend and a potential second detour north near Palm Beach, to see my other aunt. Everything is still, how should I say it? up in the air.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ivan/263540/22 "2004-09-09T03:25:13Z")

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_sticks fingers in ears_

It’s not coming it’s not coming it’s not coming it’s not coming…

_pauses_

Another 4 day weekend? Score!

Just kidding. These things blow. (No pun intended)

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**Author:** ![Sharky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@Sharky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sharky)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ivan/263540/23 "2004-09-09T08:07:49Z")

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Ivan has just been upgraded to a solid Category 5 with sustained winds of _160 mph_.

And the [predicted track](http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at200409_5day.html) is now aimed directly at . . . Tampa. ☹

_Sigh._

However, it’s still a little early to accurately predict where it will actually go - anything outside of 12 hours is an educated guess at best.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ivan/263540/24 "2004-09-09T11:34:38Z")

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As awful as this all is, it’s kinda morbidly funny. Getting smacked by every third hurricane so far is definitely wierd.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ivan/263540/25 "2004-09-09T12:26:12Z")

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> [@Sharky](#):
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> Ivan has just been upgraded to a solid Category 5 with sustained winds of _160 mph_.
> 
> And the [predicted track](http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at200409_5day.html) is now aimed directly at . . . Tampa. ☹

Just checked again, now the predicted track is Orlando. At this rate it’s going to double back on itself and strike Manchester, England.

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ivan/263540/26 "2004-09-09T12:36:27Z")

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[tinfoil hat ON]  
it’s almost like this is Environmental Terrorism…  
Mother Nature is a Terrorist!  
the bombing begins at noon  
[/tinfoil hat]

seriously though, just to reiterate an earlier post, what did Florida do to piss off the Weather Gods™?

hope it misses Florida and decides to track out into the Atlantic and dissapate…

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Bruce\_Daddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Daddy)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ivan/263540/27 "2004-09-09T12:56:08Z")

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This does look nasty. From the NHC discussion:

> [@](#):
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> IVAN IS EASILY UPGRADED TO A  
> 140-KT CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE. AS I WRITE…A NEW RECON REPORT  
> INDICATES AN EXTRAPOLATED PRESSURE OF 916 MB…  
> TIGHT AGREEMENT AMONG ALL OF THE AVAILABLE NHC MODELS THROUGH 60  
> HOURS…ON IVAN MOVING OVER OR AT LEAST VERY NEAR JAMAICA IN 36-48  
> HOURS. AFTER THAT…THE MODELS DIVERGE CONSIDERABLY…ALTHOUGH THE  
> SPREAD IS MUCH LESS THAN IT HAS BEEN OVER THE PREVIOUS 2-3 DAYS.  
> UNFORTUNATELY…THE MODEL SPREAD STILL BRACKETS THE FLORIDA  
> PENINSULA.

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**Author:** ![misstee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@misstee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/misstee)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ivan/263540/28 "2004-09-09T13:04:58Z")

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I was watching the news this morning while the teekids were getting ready for school. We talked about all the families in Florida that have had a lot of bad things ( Kelli’s words ) happen to them. My family is thinking about all of you guys and hoping for the best!

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**Author:** ![ladybug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/46a35a/32.png) [@ladybug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladybug)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ivan/263540/29 "2004-09-09T14:44:43Z")

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Dammit! I haven’t even been back to work after Frances because my office is still without power. Now Ivan’s coming next week? This is insane.

I’m just praying I won’t have to evacuate. I spent 14 hours on the Turnpike last Thursday because of Frances, and I really, _really_ don’t want to repeat that.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ivan/263540/30 "2004-09-09T15:57:45Z")

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> [@Bruce\_Daddy](#):
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> This does look nasty. From the NHC discussion:
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> > [@](#):
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> > THE MODEL SPREAD STILL BRACKETS THE FLORIDA  
> > PENINSULA.

Except Ivan hasn’t been following the models so far and continues to drift west. Maybe he’ll make a beeline for the Yucatan.

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**Author:** ![TroubleAgain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e480ec/32.png) [@TroubleAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroubleAgain)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ivan/263540/31 "2004-09-09T16:06:50Z")

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Okay, we need to organize everyone in Florida with any sort of lung capacity to all stand up and blow westward at the appropriate moment. This effin’ sux!

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ivan/263540/32 "2004-09-09T16:38:37Z")

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I just read that they’re already evacuating the Keys, and Ivan is still three or four days away. This one must be a real ass-kicker :eek:

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Bruce\_Daddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Daddy)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ivan/263540/33 "2004-09-09T17:15:43Z")

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> [@Jeff Olsen](#):
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> Except Ivan hasn’t been following the models so far and continues to drift west. Maybe he’ll make a beeline for the Yucatan.

How are you gentlemen? All your [Cuba](http://www.boatus.com/hurricanes/hurricane_spaghetti2.asp) are belong to us. You have no chance to survive. Make your time. Ha Ha Ha.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ivan/263540/34 "2004-09-09T17:30:01Z")

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> [@ladybug](#):
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> I’m just praying I won’t have to evacuate. I spent 14 hours on the Turnpike last Thursday because of Frances, and I really, _really_ don’t want to repeat that.

Beat the rush and evacuate now? ☹

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ivan/263540/35 "2004-09-09T19:35:55Z")

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Why not put NASA to good use, have them set up an array of rocket motors on some uninhabited (or sparsely populated) islands in the Bahamas, and have the rocket motors aimed at Ivan, use enough of them to change the wind currents and blow Ivan out into the Atlantic, or at the very least, dry him up…

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ivan/263540/36 "2004-09-09T19:45:28Z")

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> [@Bruce\_Daddy](#):
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> How are you gentlemen? All your [Cuba](http://www.boatus.com/hurricanes/hurricane_spaghetti2.asp) are belong to us. You have no chance to survive. Make your time. Ha Ha Ha.

Oy. Maybe he’ll skirt the coast and come for us instead! You can bet this time we’ll unplug all our electronics if that’s the case.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ivan/263540/37 "2004-09-09T20:09:46Z")

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> [@Diceman](#):
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> I just read that they’re already evacuating the Keys, and Ivan is still three or four days away. This one must be a real ass-kicker :eek:

Today they’re evacuating _turistas_. Tomorrow is mobile home park residents. Saturday is everybody else. It’s very hard to evacuate the Keys because of the narrow road leading out. Already several deaths in Jamaica and Cuba looks hosed. Hope it turns or slows down soon.

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**Author:** ![TroubleAgain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e480ec/32.png) [@TroubleAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroubleAgain)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ivan/263540/38 "2004-09-09T20:12:51Z")

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You know the brown line that goes right up Florida? Yeah. That’s going right across where I live (Polk County). For the third time? Shit. Charley’s eye went just east of me, by about 5-10 miles. Frances went _right_ over me. Ivan needs to find someone else to pick on. It’s amazing considering everything that I’ve come through with as little damage as I have. Thank God we’re far enough inland that both storms were seriously weakened by the time they got to us, or we’d be in really, seriously bad shape by now.

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**Author:** ![swampbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampbear/32/467_2.png) [@swampbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampbear)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ivan/263540/39 "2004-09-09T20:22:47Z")

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The ARC of Florida is requesting assistance with the possible evacuation of 380 people with developmental disabilities. I’ve spent the afternoon helping to line up places, cots, sheets, blankets, pillows, food and etc. I’m hoping it won’t happen, but looks like we’ll be ready for em. I might get to sleep at work for a few days. YEHAA! :dubious:

I’m here in southwest Georgia blowing as hard as I can. All you other dopers in or near Florida need to get busy doing the same thing now. Blow, dammit, blow!

Smiley’s that look like they could be blowing:

:eek: :o

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ivan/263540/40 "2004-09-09T20:48:42Z")

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> [@TroubleAgain](#):
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> You know the brown line that goes right up Florida? Yeah. That’s going right across where I live (Polk County). For the third time? Shit.

I’d seriously consider changing your address or your eerily appropriate username.

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