# I've been made into an honest woman (with pics)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-made-into-an-honest-woman-with-pics/375347>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 5, 2006, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-made-into-an-honest-woman-with-pics/375347 "2006-10-05T02:48:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![SusanStoHelit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@SusanStoHelit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SusanStoHelit)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-made-into-an-honest-woman-with-pics/375347/41 "2006-10-05T18:25:25Z")

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[QUOTE=Sunrazor]  
Congratulations! You are a lovely bride!

So, when can we expect grandchildren?

What!? Oh, come on, you know everybody over 55 was thinking it!  
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On the advice of a Doper (sorry don’t remember who) I’ve been telling people that I add one more year that I’ll wait to have kids for every person who asks. I then gently remind them that a woman only has a finite number of eggs.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Slant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c57346/32.png) [@Mr.Slant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Slant)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-made-into-an-honest-woman-with-pics/375347/42 "2006-10-06T01:35:04Z")

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A nice lady who worked for one of my suppliers once said, and by way of repetition of kind words I say unto you,

“May you have an eternal honeymoon.”

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**Author:** ![crazyjoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@crazyjoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crazyjoe)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2006, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-made-into-an-honest-woman-with-pics/375347/43 "2006-10-08T23:43:36Z")

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[QUOTE=SusanStoHelit]  
On the advice of a Doper (sorry don’t remember who) I’ve been telling people that I add one more year that I’ll wait to have kids for every person who asks. I then gently remind them that a woman only has a finite number of eggs.  
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Don’t forget to mention that you’re already up to about…35 (that’s when docs toss you in the high-risk category)

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Push\_Up\_Bra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/edb3f5/32.png) [@Freudian\_Push\_Up\_Bra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Push_Up_Bra)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2006, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-made-into-an-honest-woman-with-pics/375347/44 "2006-10-09T08:15:13Z")

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The fact that you fed each other cake rather than face mashing it makes me happy. It’s so adorable!

All the best for your marriage!

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2006, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-made-into-an-honest-woman-with-pics/375347/45 "2006-10-09T10:45:30Z")

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Congratulations!

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2006, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-made-into-an-honest-woman-with-pics/375347/46 "2006-10-09T14:04:29Z")

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Congrats - you look beautiful and the day one to remember.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2006, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-made-into-an-honest-woman-with-pics/375347/47 "2006-10-09T15:20:25Z")

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Conga-rats!

**Susan** , you’re a stunningly beautiful woman, as well as a very bright one. Your new hubby better appreciate that, 'cuz you’ve got a _LOT_ of big brothers here on The Dope.

Health, wealth and happiness to you!!

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**Author:** ![SusanStoHelit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@SusanStoHelit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SusanStoHelit)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-made-into-an-honest-woman-with-pics/375347/48 "2006-10-10T23:39:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Clothahump]  
Conga-rats!

**Susan** , you’re a stunningly beautiful woman, as well as a very bright one. Your new hubby better appreciate that, 'cuz you’ve got a _LOT_ of big brothers here on The Dope.

Health, wealth and happiness to you!!  
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Shh! He’s already jealous enough of the Dope.

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**Author:** ![SusanStoHelit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@SusanStoHelit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SusanStoHelit)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-made-into-an-honest-woman-with-pics/375347/49 "2006-10-10T23:45:33Z")

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Oh and I just found out today that my grandfather (who is a minister and performed the ceremony) led a religious prayer and sing-a-long before the reception while my new husband and I were off getting the requisite pictures.

Considering his half of the family is very anti-religious, their behavior during the reception suddenly makes a lot more sense _cringe_

Family…

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**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-made-into-an-honest-woman-with-pics/375347/50 "2006-10-11T01:02:50Z")

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[QUOTE=SusanStoHelit]  
Oh and I just found out today that my grandfather (who is a minister and performed the ceremony) led a religious prayer and sing-a-long before the reception while my new husband and I were off getting the requisite pictures…

Family…  
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Susan, it’s always your grandfather, isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-made-into-an-honest-woman-with-pics/375347/51 "2006-10-11T01:56:40Z")

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[QUOTE=photopat]  
Susan, it’s always your grandfather, isn’t it?  
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At least I hope he left Quoth and the Death of Rats behind…

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**Author:** ![SusanStoHelit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@SusanStoHelit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SusanStoHelit)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-made-into-an-honest-woman-with-pics/375347/52 "2006-10-11T03:44:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Kythereia]  
At least I hope he left Quoth and the Death of Rats behind…  
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He _did_ kind of chuckle at the "till DEATH do us part "

hmm…

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**Author:** ![crazyjoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@crazyjoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crazyjoe)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-made-into-an-honest-woman-with-pics/375347/53 "2006-10-11T18:43:18Z")

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[QUOTE=SusanStoHelit]  
Oh and I just found out today that my grandfather (who is a minister and performed the ceremony) led a religious prayer and sing-a-long before the reception while my new husband and I were off getting the requisite pictures.

Considering his half of the family is very anti-religious, their behavior during the reception suddenly makes a lot more sense _cringe_

Family…  
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What did they do during the reception? Stone your grandfather?

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**Author:** ![SusanStoHelit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@SusanStoHelit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SusanStoHelit)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-made-into-an-honest-woman-with-pics/375347/54 "2006-10-11T20:03:01Z")

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[QUOTE=crazyjoe]  
What did they do during the reception? Stone your grandfather?  
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No, just very confusingly (is that a word?) cold and distant, and they all left early. Since they were only about 5 out of the total 35 people it didn’t really make a difference, but I had been really hoping that his mom would get along with my family at least a little.

This will make holidays a lot more complicated.

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**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-made-into-an-honest-woman-with-pics/375347/55 "2006-10-11T20:19:17Z")

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[QUOTE=SusanStoHelit]  
Oh and I just found out today that my grandfather (who is a minister and performed the ceremony) led a religious prayer and sing-a-long before the reception while my new husband and I were off getting **the requisite pictures**.  
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I take it this isn’t a euphamism for anything?

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**Author:** ![crazyjoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@crazyjoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crazyjoe)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-made-into-an-honest-woman-with-pics/375347/56 "2006-10-11T20:20:59Z")

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Wow. WOW. That’s incredibly anti-religious. To the point of rudeness. I understand it might not have been sensitive of your granfather to lead a prayer circle and all, but it’s not like you were singing “Amazing Grace” all through the reception or anything.

As far as holidays, maybe it’s just me but I’ve never gotten the two sides of my family together for holidays. First, few people have houses big enough for that, and second, it’s much easier just to make dual appearances most of the time (or on holidays like Christmas, do the eve with one family and the day with the other).

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**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-made-into-an-honest-woman-with-pics/375347/57 "2006-10-11T20:56:49Z")

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Congratulations, Susan. You look so happy.

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**Author:** ![SusanStoHelit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@SusanStoHelit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SusanStoHelit)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2006, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-made-into-an-honest-woman-with-pics/375347/58 "2006-10-12T00:17:53Z")

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[QUOTE=crazyjoe]  
Wow. WOW. That’s incredibly anti-religious. To the point of rudeness. I understand it might not have been sensitive of your granfather to lead a prayer circle and all, but it’s not like you were singing “Amazing Grace” all through the reception or anything.

As far as holidays, maybe it’s just me but I’ve never gotten the two sides of my family together for holidays. First, few people have houses big enough for that, and second, it’s much easier just to make dual appearances most of the time (or on holidays like Christmas, do the eve with one family and the day with the other).  
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My whole extended family is from South Dakota, where everyone knows The Doxology and “coming out” means admitting that you are an athiest. The wedding was in Oregon, the state with the lowest church attendence in the US. I probably should have expected something like this.

Re: holidays, his blood-related family consists of just him and his mom. For various reasons real and imagined, she is estranged from all but one member of his extended family. “His side” therefore was her current boyfriend, her ex-boyfriend (who pretty much raised **Suavecaveman** from ages 6-16) and 3 other of her close friends.

So it would have been a simple thing to bring her along when we went to my folk’s for Christmas (she lives in town, they only live 1.5 hours away). But she has many emotional problems anyway - I’ve always known that dealing with her will be a struggle. Luckily **caveman** has excellent boundaries in place. That was one of the things that attracted me to her in the first place: how well he balances his responsibilities to his mother while maintaining his own sanity and life.

**Ellen Cherry** thanks! I was blissfully unaware of most of this during the actual wedding day, so yes I was very happy.

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