# I've been working here for fifteen years! I have benefits! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 24, 2010, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-working-here-for-fifteen-years-i-have-benefits/540546 "2010-05-24T07:08:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-working-here-for-fifteen-years-i-have-benefits/540546/201 "2010-05-27T11:37:59Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I see you’ve changed and embellished your story, bragged about not being able to hold a job, and came out looking like an even bigger jerk. > > The Shmenge Trifecta! In what way did I change it? Is clarification of other’s false assumptions embellishment? And I have never tried to “hold a job”, I have usually done just fine as a entrepreneur. ---
**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-working-here-for-fifteen-years-i-have-benefits/540546/202 "2010-05-27T11:50:07Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > This thread was already 4 pages long. By the time you’re finished responding it’ll be 8. > > Not that it matters, of course. The appropriate conclusion was drawn early on, this is simply sealing the deal. Without me rebutting any of the false assumptoins, y’all had it all figured out. Airman Doors, you are one of my favorite posters here, and I am sorry you have such a poor opinion of me. I hope you will consider the points I have made tonight, and revise your considerations. ---
**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-working-here-for-fifteen-years-i-have-benefits/540546/203 "2010-05-27T12:32:28Z")
Stan works for Ron Artest? Jesus, that’s funny. In an utterly appropriate way. ---
**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-working-here-for-fifteen-years-i-have-benefits/540546/204 "2010-05-27T12:37:38Z")
> [@StusBlues](#): > > Stan works for Ron Artest? > > Jesus, that’s funny. In an utterly appropriate way. In what way? The charitable foundation that Mr. Artest sponsors, tries to keep young black men from becoming the kind of thugs that I mentioned in the other thread. More power to him. And, GO LAKERS! ---
**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-working-here-for-fifteen-years-i-have-benefits/540546/205 "2010-05-27T12:38:56Z")
> [@StusBlues](#): > > Stan works for Ron Artest? And actually we work for his agent. Probably a dirty Jew. (I keed) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-working-here-for-fifteen-years-i-have-benefits/540546/206 "2010-05-27T13:40:29Z")
> [@Stan\_Shmenge](#): > > In what way? The charitable foundation that Mr. Artest sponsors, tries to keep young black men from becoming the kind of thugs that I mentioned in the other thread. More power to him. And, GO LAKERS! Ron Artest sponsors a charity to keep people from becoming like Ron Artest? ---
**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-working-here-for-fifteen-years-i-have-benefits/540546/207 "2010-05-27T14:03:00Z")
Yeah. I’d say it was ironic, but naw. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-working-here-for-fifteen-years-i-have-benefits/540546/208 "2010-05-27T14:25:44Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Ron Artest sponsors a charity to keep people from becoming like Ron Artest? Part of his plea agreement, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-working-here-for-fifteen-years-i-have-benefits/540546/209 "2010-05-27T14:31:39Z")
> [@Stan\_Shmenge](#): > > And yeah, I am smarter than YOU at least. Certainly possible, but not very likely. And in the chance that it is true, I will respectfully submit that in the off chance you may be smarter, I am much more socially capable than you. As evidenced, over and over again, on your own threads on how you deal with stressful social situations by turning into a total and complete moron. ---
**Author:** ![Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lady_of_the_Lake)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-working-here-for-fifteen-years-i-have-benefits/540546/210 "2010-05-27T14:34:14Z")
> [@Stan\_Shmenge](#): > > Except to call chew me out, call security, chew me out some more, and have me expelled from the premises! :rolleyes: I apologize, I should have been more clear. In general, low level customer service people cannot adequately fight back when abused by a costumer. I have seen this several times (once by an uncle who reamed out a waitress for picking up his plate the ‘wrong way’.) **You** , on the other hand, were terribly rude to a manager type, therefore she could respond. But, in what world is saying something like this:\* “and that generally they are of at best average intelligence”\*, cool _even if not overhead_? Do you not see how this makes you look? ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-working-here-for-fifteen-years-i-have-benefits/540546/211 "2010-05-27T15:14:43Z")
[QUOTE=Hal Briston] Private or not, if you’re going to stand in a store having a conversation with your right hand, you’re going to attract attention. [/QUOTE] > [@Stan\_Shmenge](#): > > I should have made it more clear. I was having a private conversation with ONE of my girlfriends. So you’re ambidextrous, then? ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-working-here-for-fifteen-years-i-have-benefits/540546/212 "2010-05-27T15:58:18Z")
**STAN**. FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY, LEARN HOW TO USE THE FUCKING MULTIQUOTE. 1.) Click the plus button on a post you want to reply to. This will turn it red, indicating that the post has been selected. If you change your mind about replying to it, click it again to toggle it off. 2.) Go down the thread and click this button for every post you want to reply to. 3.) When you get to the last post, click “Quote” as normal. 4.) CONGRATULATIONS. You have ONE FUCKING COMPOSITION BOX full of all the posts you selected. > [@Stan\_Shmenge](#): > > Well, I might not mind working in a bookstore myself, but B&N? Do you actually know anyone who works at a B&N? I do. He’s one of my best friends, and I’m quite sure he’s both smarter and better read than you are. He likes the job because it gives him flexibility to tour with his band. > [@](#): > > I actually go there to sit and read expensive magazines related to my field, CGI, which all seem to come from England and are priced at like $20 a copy because they are imports. And to buy my girlfriend overpriced coffee, which she seems to have an unfortunate addiction to. 1.) Seriously, dude, don’t sit in those chairs. They’re pits of filth. 2.) Stop being a cheapass and fingering the merch if you’re not going to buy it. That’s what libraries are for. 3.) If your girlfriend had any taste, she’d be getting you to buy something better than Starbucks–and Starbucks _in a fucking B&N_, at that. > [@Stan\_Shmenge](#): > > and at age 50 You’re **50**? You’re _ **50** _?! You. Are. Fifty. Years. Old. I cannot fucking wrap my mind around that. You sound approximately 19. > [@Stan\_Shmenge](#): > > it was pretty obvious both to me and Fresh&Easy Oh, _you’re_ the dude who worked for the pantyliner store! > [@42fish](#): > > So you’re ambidextrous, then? I laughed. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Happy\_Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Poster)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-working-here-for-fifteen-years-i-have-benefits/540546/213 "2010-05-27T16:20:56Z")
> [@42fish](#): > > So you’re ambidextrous, then? If you use your left hand it feels like someone else 😛 ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-working-here-for-fifteen-years-i-have-benefits/540546/214 "2010-05-27T16:31:41Z")
> [@Stan\_Shmenge](#): > > I was explaining to my GF that you can’t rely on people that work at the retail level to do their jobs right, and that generally they are of at best average intelligence, and they need to be checked on. Do you just not understand that \*that \*was an act of primo jerkishness _right there_? The person you were referring to is a far, far better person, and far more valuable to society, than you have ever dreamed of being. If you really are 50 and have never been able to hold a job for more than a couple of years, then the only loser in the story is you. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Happy\_Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Poster)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-working-here-for-fifteen-years-i-have-benefits/540546/215 "2010-05-27T17:41:53Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > If you really are 50 and have never been able to hold a job for more than a couple of years, then the only loser in the story is you. That simply doesn’t follow. It’s very much a cubicle drone way of looking at things. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-working-here-for-fifteen-years-i-have-benefits/540546/216 "2010-05-27T17:46:41Z")
It really depends on \*why \*the tenure at each job was short. If it wasn’t his choice most every time, then yeah, failure. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-working-here-for-fifteen-years-i-have-benefits/540546/217 "2010-05-27T17:52:53Z")
Given his visceral emotionality at the mere sight of someone actually holding a job longer than he ever has, that has to be the assumption. ---
**Author:** ![pbbth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f9ae1b/32.png) [@pbbth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pbbth)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-working-here-for-fifteen-years-i-have-benefits/540546/218 "2010-05-27T17:58:39Z")
> [@Stan\_Shmenge](#): > > It just seems sad to me. I always figured that people that work at B&N were doing it in the meantime, working their way through school, young folks deciding what they want out of life. I was surprised when she unloaded that on me. Fifteen years?!? Seriously, shoot me. And if someone you were working with thought it was sad that you were working a freelance job with no benefits at 50 years old that wasn’t even enough to keep you afloat so you had to take some shit temp job you hated and had a loud discussion about what a stupid asshole loser that makes you while you were standing in earshot you think that would be cool? > [@Stan\_Shmenge](#): > > So, customers who have had their transactions \*\*messed up by incompetent employees \*\*should just keep mum, or they are assholes? Amiright? > [@Stan\_Shmenge](#): > > Maybe you are doing it wrong. In my brief period of temp work at Fresh & Easy, I would definitely sweat mistakes I made on the job. I always try to do a good job, and **I did make mistakes at the grocery**. I really felt bad that I didn’t bag that poor lady’s yogurt because it slipped under the bags on the checkout… So when you fucked up and left that lady’s yogurt under the bags that automatically made you a hideous retard, right? I mean, obviously competent employees don’t make mistakes like that so you should have been reamed for it by that woman. She should have made sure you and your fellow employees heard her talking about how trained monkeys could do a better job of bagging groceries and they would probably fling less poo around as well. I am surprised I can’t see the inside of my skull with how far back my eyes have rolled. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Happy\_Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Poster)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-working-here-for-fifteen-years-i-have-benefits/540546/219 "2010-05-27T18:01:09Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Given his visceral emotionality at the mere sight of someone actually holding a job longer than he ever has, that has to be the assumption. I’m taking his claims to be a quasi-entrepenurial free spirit at face value… would be consistent as well. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-working-here-for-fifteen-years-i-have-benefits/540546/220 "2010-05-27T18:07:34Z")
> [@Stan\_Shmenge](#): > > Airman Doors, you are one of my favorite posters here, and I am sorry you have such a poor opinion of me. I hope you will consider the points I have made tonight, and revise your considerations. My sincerest condolences to **Airman Doors**. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-working-here-for-fifteen-years-i-have-benefits/540546.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-working-here-for-fifteen-years-i-have-benefits/540546.md?page=12)