# I've decided not to watch Bush tonight

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-decided-not-to-watch-bush-tonight/481519>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 16, 2009, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-decided-not-to-watch-bush-tonight/481519 "2009-01-16T01:03:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-decided-not-to-watch-bush-tonight/481519/21 "2009-01-16T03:20:21Z")

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You guys are really hilarious, y’know that. Hilarious… and pathetic.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-decided-not-to-watch-bush-tonight/481519/22 "2009-01-16T03:23:04Z")

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What a daring and controversial topic! I admire the OP’s bravery in just putting this out there.

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-decided-not-to-watch-bush-tonight/481519/23 "2009-01-16T03:26:07Z")

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It should be a nice boost for Smallville’s ratings.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-decided-not-to-watch-bush-tonight/481519/24 "2009-01-16T03:29:49Z")

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I don’t like Obama.

(IOW, :rolleyes:).

(IYOW, what Scylla said).

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-decided-not-to-watch-bush-tonight/481519/25 "2009-01-16T03:32:11Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> He’s a liar and/or deluded, and therefore never says anything worthwhile, and I despise him.

As irony would have it, this is pretty much how I feel about you.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-decided-not-to-watch-bush-tonight/481519/26 "2009-01-16T03:36:19Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> As irony would have it, this is pretty much how I feel about you.

I don’t think **Der Trihs** is a liar, otherwise, ditto.

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-decided-not-to-watch-bush-tonight/481519/27 "2009-01-16T03:36:29Z")

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> [@smiling\_bandit](#):
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> You guys are really hilarious, y’know that. Hilarious… and pathetic.

Assuming you’re a Bush supporter, I question your ability to recognize pathetic.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-decided-not-to-watch-bush-tonight/481519/28 "2009-01-16T03:40:57Z")

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I must’ve blew my hate load from roughly October of 2001 to November of 2006 because I just can’t work up much of anything for the guy lately. I watched his speech completely devoid of emotions and had almost forgotten about it when I saw this thread. The past is done; I’m looking towards the future.

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**Author:** ![Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hazle_Weatherfield)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-decided-not-to-watch-bush-tonight/481519/29 "2009-01-16T03:42:47Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> I like that a plane crash where everyone survived is overshadowing his exit speech.

Yeah, my husband and I thought that was pretty cool, too!

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-decided-not-to-watch-bush-tonight/481519/30 "2009-01-16T03:43:30Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> I don’t like Obama.
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> (IOW, :rolleyes:).
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> (IYOW, what Scylla said).

Well, of course it’s all pretty much over now, but is there any allowable level of criticism for the departing President, in your view? In other words, are you just objecting to the amount, or the general tone, or what?

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-decided-not-to-watch-bush-tonight/481519/31 "2009-01-16T03:44:11Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> I don’t think **Der Trihs** is a liar, otherwise, ditto.

Well, on the SDMB, “liar” means “someone I don’t like”; I agree with you if we use the ordinary meaning of the word.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-decided-not-to-watch-bush-tonight/481519/32 "2009-01-16T03:45:38Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> As irony would have it, this is pretty much how I feel about you.

You are a Randian who has said in the past that “the weak shall perish” is a good way to run a society. I’m not exactly crushed by the disapproval of vermin like yourself.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-decided-not-to-watch-bush-tonight/481519/33 "2009-01-16T03:46:06Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Well, of course it’s all pretty much over now, but is there any allowable level of criticism for the departing President, in your view? In other words, are you just objecting to the amount, or the general tone, or what?

I’m not objecting to criticism of Bush–I’m no Bush lover myself.

I’m objecting to starting a thread the entire topic of wish is “I don’t like Bush” with an OP with no content other than “I got a new tv and I don’t like Bush.”

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-decided-not-to-watch-bush-tonight/481519/34 "2009-01-16T03:50:28Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> You are a Randian who has said in the past that “the weak shall perish” is a good way to run a society. I’m not exactly crushed by the disapproval of vermin like yourself.

Yes, I said that. Pity you can’t seem to recall the context in which I said that, and the pages and pages in two or three threads where I fleshed out that idea and what it meant.

You’ve said that American soldiers in Iraq deserve death. You believe that the employment relationship necessarily involves oppression of the worker such that anything bad that an employee does to an employer is fine (including murder). You don’t understand even the stepping stones that would be necessary to glimpse the barest taste of an understanding of basic economic principles. You are just a sad little man with nothing to give to the world but your hate of everyone that doesn’t believe in the same leftist bullshit you do.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-decided-not-to-watch-bush-tonight/481519/35 "2009-01-16T03:57:11Z")

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Yeah, well, John Galt was a homo.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-decided-not-to-watch-bush-tonight/481519/36 "2009-01-16T03:57:17Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> I’m objecting to starting a thread the entire topic of wish is “I don’t like Bush” with an OP with no content other than “I got a new tv and I don’t like Bush.”

This would be the occasion of his final speech to the American people. It seems an appropriate time for a final fuck you to the torturer-in-chief.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-decided-not-to-watch-bush-tonight/481519/37 "2009-01-16T04:02:09Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> I’m objecting to starting a thread the entire topic of wish is “I don’t like Bush” with an OP with no content other than “I got a new tv and I don’t like Bush.”

Hey, well, some of us learned a couple of things about **Frank** ’s TV and desk that we didn’t know before. Ignorance fought and all that.

I’m sticking around hoping we find out what’s in his freezer chest next. That’s usually where the really interesting stuff ends up.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-decided-not-to-watch-bush-tonight/481519/38 "2009-01-16T04:04:45Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> Yes, I said that. Pity you can’t seem to recall the context in which I said that, and the pages and pages in two or three threads where I fleshed out that idea and what it meant.

I’m well aware of the “context” since it was in reply to me.

> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> You’ve said that American soldiers in Iraq deserve death.

Of course; I feel the same about any other army of conquest.

> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> You believe that the employment relationship necessarily involves oppression of the worker such that anything bad that an employee does to an employer is fine (including murder).

My, those hallucinogens kicked in pretty strong there.

> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> You don’t understand even the stepping stones that would be necessary to glimpse the barest taste of an understanding of basic economic principles.

Very amusing from a Randian.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-decided-not-to-watch-bush-tonight/481519/39 "2009-01-16T04:05:56Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Yeah, well, John Galt was a homo.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that. But he shagged Dagny pretty good (in a train station IIRC), so there’s some hetero in there somewhere.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-decided-not-to-watch-bush-tonight/481519/40 "2009-01-16T04:07:36Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> I’m well aware of the “context” since it was in reply to me.
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> Of course; I feel the same about any other army of conquest.
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> My, those hallucinogens kicked in pretty strong there.
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> Very amusing from a Randian.

No reply to the “sad little man” sentence? ☹ I was particularly proud of that bit.

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