# I've fucking had it with NASCAR and NBCSN **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 25, 2015, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-fucking-had-it-with-nascar-and-nbcsn/735679 "2015-10-25T00:27:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-fucking-had-it-with-nascar-and-nbcsn/735679/1 "2015-10-25T00:27:34Z")
NASCAR and NBC have made sure that the most interesting races are not on channels that most people get. The night race at Bristol was on NBCSN. OK, shit happens. An elimination Race for the Chase, at Talladega, the most fucking exciting racetrack NASCAR has, is not on NBC. It’s on a fucking channel that nobody gets unless they pay a million dollars a month to their cable carrier. NBC, will, most likely, be showing fucking golf. Fuck NBC. Fuck NASCAR. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-fucking-had-it-with-nascar-and-nbcsn/735679/2 "2015-10-25T00:48:33Z")
Actually, NBC will be showing the US Grand Prix, which I’m sure they are doing because they have the F1 contract and want people to get interested in a series frequently relegated to NBCSN or MSNBC. If it were anywhere else except maybe Monaco NASCAR would have the priority. They want people to go to NBCSN for racing. They bought Speed and rebranded it for a reason. Cord-cutting has its benefits, but it also has its downsides. Maybe missing the race is one of them. Last, I’m not sure they really care this weekend. They are going head-to-head with football starting at 9 a.m. and ending with their own broadcast. Anything on tomorrow until the 8 p.m. game may as well be dead air. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-fucking-had-it-with-nascar-and-nbcsn/735679/3 "2015-10-25T00:58:36Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > Actually, NBC will be showing the US Grand Prix, which I’m sure they are doing because they have the F1 contract and want people to get interested in a series frequently relegated to NBCSN or MSNBC. If it were anywhere else except maybe Monaco NASCAR would have the priority. > > They want people to go to NBCSN for racing. They bought Speed and rebranded it for a reason. Cord-cutting has its benefits, but it also has its downsides. Maybe missing the race is one of them. > > Last, I’m not sure they really care this weekend. They are going head-to-head with football starting at 9 a.m. and ending with their own broadcast. Anything on tomorrow until the 8 p.m. game may as well be dead air. The early football game tomorrow is only available on Yahoo. I haven’t cut the cord. I’m in the mid-tier of cable; I get the bulk of sports channels. In order to get channels such as NBCSN, MLB, NFL, and a couple of others, I have to increase my payment by about $40 a month. So they want people to get interested in F1, which nobody in the U.S. cares about, instead of showing a race that people here do care about? In, as you said, dead air? As I said, fuck them. ---
**Author:** ![Eo\_Echo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ebca7d/32.png) [@Eo\_Echo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eo_Echo)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-fucking-had-it-with-nascar-and-nbcsn/735679/4 "2015-10-25T01:25:25Z")
I’ve always hated the fact that they spread the schedule out over several networks. It would be so nice to know that all the races are on one channel. ---
**Author:** ![dzeiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@dzeiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dzeiger)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-fucking-had-it-with-nascar-and-nbcsn/735679/5 "2015-10-25T02:42:46Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > They want people to go to NBCSN for racing. They bought Speed and rebranded it for a reason. Cord-cutting has its benefits, but it also has its downsides. Maybe missing the race is one of them. Wrong media conglomerate. Speed was bought by Fox and became Fox Sports 1. As a fan of both F1 and NASCAR, I’d much rather have the US F1 race on NBC. Restrictor plate races are 90% fuck-all boring (Oh, he’s in 2nd place this lap, next lap he’s in 32nd place, next lap he’s back in 5th), 10% massive crashes that take out half the field. I’ve long thought they could make them into 10-lap races for all the difference anything before that makes. It’s annoying that for some people NBCSN is in a higher tier, but that’s a problem with the cable TV model more than a broadcaster pitting. And the fewer races I have to listen to Darrell Waltrip babble, the better. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-fucking-had-it-with-nascar-and-nbcsn/735679/6 "2015-10-25T03:02:29Z")
> [@dzeiger](#): > > Wrong media conglomerate. Speed was bought by Fox and became Fox Sports 1. Oops. NBCSN used to be the Outdoor Life Network and then Versus. > [@](#): > > As a fan of both F1 and NASCAR, I’d much rather have the US F1 race on NBC. Restrictor plate races are 90% fuck-all boring (Oh, he’s in 2nd place this lap, next lap he’s in 32nd place, next lap he’s back in 5th), 10% massive crashes that take out half the field. I’ve long thought they could make them into 10-lap races for all the difference anything before that makes. I know, who wants to watch a boring restrictor plate race when we can watch Hamilton dominate from the flag drop with Rosberg coming in second and Vettel closing out the podium? Hyping F1 and calling NASCAR boring is kinda silly. They both have their charms, but in F1’s case passing up front isn’t typically one of them. Barring a fluke accident or mechanical failure F1’s results are preordained. I could predict them right now and be right more than 50% of the time in all details. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-fucking-had-it-with-nascar-and-nbcsn/735679/7 "2015-10-25T03:47:19Z")
So, what you’re saying is that F1 outcomes tend to be somewhat formulaic, right? ---
**Author:** ![dzeiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@dzeiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dzeiger)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-fucking-had-it-with-nascar-and-nbcsn/735679/8 "2015-10-25T06:49:32Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > Hyping F1 and calling NASCAR boring is kinda silly. They both have their charms, but in F1’s case passing up front isn’t typically one of them. Barring a fluke accident or mechanical failure F1’s results are preordained. I could predict them right now and be right more than 50% of the time in all details. NASCAR in general is not boring. Restrictor plate racing is literally “I’m only watching this for the wrecks” racing. Yes, barring rain, HAM/ROS/VET is a pretty safe bet this year for any given F1 race, I’m not sure that’s particularly worse than the random number generator that determines the results of plate tracks. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-fucking-had-it-with-nascar-and-nbcsn/735679/9 "2015-10-25T07:01:45Z")
You need some proper racing, like Australian V8 Supercars, preferably on the Mount Panorama circuit in Bathurst. That’s a real motor race, and i don’t think they even show it here in the US. ---
**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-fucking-had-it-with-nascar-and-nbcsn/735679/10 "2015-10-25T11:37:57Z")
this is a problem in all sports almost all the MLB playoff games this season so far have been on FS1 or TBS there’s been some improvement now that some TNF games are on CBS but after next week they will all only be on NFL Network. And Monday Night Football is always only on ESPN. There was even an NFL playoff game on ESPN last year! I am getting real fed up with telecommunications robber barons ruining my life ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-fucking-had-it-with-nascar-and-nbcsn/735679/11 "2015-10-25T12:09:21Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > fucking golf Fucking golf… is that the kind of golf where finishing with the fewest strokes is considered bad and actually getting a ball in the hole is considered an advanced technique? Well, as long as you replace your divots. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-fucking-had-it-with-nascar-and-nbcsn/735679/12 "2015-10-25T12:44:12Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > You need some proper racing, like Australian V8 Supercars, preferably on the Mount Panorama circuit in Bathurst. > > That’s a real motor race, and i don’t think they even show it here in the US. You mean the racing series that won’t have any cars anymore starting about 2 years from now? It’s Australian NASCAR, only crazier because you have to be loony to drive as fast as they do at Bathurst. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-fucking-had-it-with-nascar-and-nbcsn/735679/13 "2015-10-25T14:44:34Z")
> [@PSXer](#): > > I am getting real fed up with telecommunications robber barons ruining my life Glad you have your priorities straight. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-fucking-had-it-with-nascar-and-nbcsn/735679/14 "2015-10-25T15:27:42Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > You mean the racing series that won’t have any cars anymore starting about 2 years from now? While i’m disappointed, from a parochial Aussie point-of-view, that companies like Ford and Holden won’t be making V8s in Australia anymore, that doesn’t mean there won’t be any cars to race. There’s no requirement in the V8 Supercar rules that a manufacturer offer a production V8 in any car that they choose to run in the racing series. If Holden or Ford want to continue racing V8 Supercars—something that they’ve both said they want to do—all they have to do is use one of their imported bodyshells and drop a racing V8 into it. Other companies do exactly the same thing now. The Nissan Altima is only available for the road with a 4-cylinder or 6-cylinder engine, yet it competes in the series with a 5.0L V8. Same with the Volvo S60. I believe that they’re also going to remove the “V8” part of the label and open the series up to turbo-charged four and six-cylinder cars, including coupes, in a couple of years. > [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > It’s Australian NASCAR, only crazier because you have to be loony to drive as fast as they do at Bathurst. Which is precisely what makes Bathurst so awesome. The track is fantastic, both for TV and in-person (i went to a few Bathurst 1000s when i lived in Australia), and the race is nearly always incredibly exciting. I’ve gotten into a lot of American sports since i arrived in the US 15 years ago, but NASCAR is one big yawn, as far as i’m concerned. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-fucking-had-it-with-nascar-and-nbcsn/735679/15 "2015-10-25T20:59:09Z")
Frankly, I’m glad any time something sports related gets moved off broadcast and onto cable sports channels. ---
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-fucking-had-it-with-nascar-and-nbcsn/735679/16 "2015-10-26T01:24:36Z")
> [@dzeiger](#): > > And the fewer races I have to listen to Darrell Waltrip babble, the better. Ughhhhhhhhhhh I hate DW so much. So. Much. I don’t watch racing as much as I used to so when I happen to catch a race with him, it’s always an interesting experiment to see how long I can watch before I change the channel, leave the room, or scream “SHUT UP” at the tv. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-fucking-had-it-with-nascar-and-nbcsn/735679/17 "2015-10-26T02:03:16Z")
NASCAR is fun to watch. They go round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and then they say somebody won. Then they bitch about **Danica Patrick** not going round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round the way the boys go round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-fucking-had-it-with-nascar-and-nbcsn/735679/18 "2015-10-26T03:20:53Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > NASCAR is fun to watch. They go round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and then they say somebody won. > > Then they bitch about **Danica Patrick** not going round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round the way the boys go round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round. But they go so fast! And the cars rumble so loud! ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-fucking-had-it-with-nascar-and-nbcsn/735679/19 "2015-10-26T04:27:20Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > You mean the racing series that won’t have any cars anymore starting about 2 years from now? It’s Australian NASCAR, only crazier because you have to be loony to drive as fast as they do at Bathurst. How can there be an Australian NASCAR? Doesn’t NASCAR stand for **North American** Stock Car Auto Racing? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-fucking-had-it-with-nascar-and-nbcsn/735679/20 "2015-10-26T14:58:27Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > Frankly, I’m glad any time something sports related gets moved off broadcast and onto cable sports channels. Yeah, if only ALL sports could be moved onto a cable tier that I wouldn’t have to buy, the world would be a more perfect place. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-fucking-had-it-with-nascar-and-nbcsn/735679.md?page=2)