# I've got a couple hundred refugees from Gor to resettle. Where shall I place them?

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**Created:** [October 19, 2010, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-got-a-couple-hundred-refugees-from-gor-to-resettle-where-shall-i-place-them/557688 "2010-10-19T19:27:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-got-a-couple-hundred-refugees-from-gor-to-resettle-where-shall-i-place-them/557688/1 "2010-10-19T19:27:32Z")

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During a recent cross-time raiding trip to acquire nude picture of [Mary Ann Summers,](http://www.swanshadow.com/images/MaryAnn2.jpg) I sneezed while setting the verniers on my Burroughs-Libby continua buggy and wound up in the wrong universe. Specifically I found myself flying over the seas of [Gor](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gor), a place I’ve always avoided. John Norman’s novels are a complete whitewash; the place is hell. And below me was a ship carrying captive girls to a life of degradation.

I spent a few seconds trying to persuade myself to ignore the situation, as there’s no money in do-gooding. Sadly I found all my rationalizations unconvincing. Thus I teleported all the captives’ into the buggy (leaving them in the transporter buffer, as there was no room otherwise), and aftewards scuttled the slaver ship, marooning its crew on a convenient desert island. There was nothing to eat or drink there but I left them plenty of steak knives and A-1 sauce.

But that leaves me with the question of what to do with the 276 refugees. I can’t send 'em home for obvious reasons, and the three most obvious universes are out. Something terrible’s happened on Paradise Island, so Wonder Woman and her sisters can’t help; there were never enough of Amazons to absorb that many anyway. They’d get good help from the Howards on Tellus Tertius, but there are warrants out for my arrest there and I’m thinking they’ll shot me on sight. Obviously Narnia would be ideal but people like me should avoid places where Aslan has jurisdiction.

What fictional societies shall I appeal to for assistance?

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-got-a-couple-hundred-refugees-from-gor-to-resettle-where-shall-i-place-them/557688/2 "2010-10-19T19:36:16Z")

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I suppose Oz is out of the question?

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-got-a-couple-hundred-refugees-from-gor-to-resettle-where-shall-i-place-them/557688/3 "2010-10-19T19:41:43Z")

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ST: TNG would probably be your best bet. Preferably while Riker is on leave, otherwise he’s gonna score with at least one of them. Troi can talk the girls down…might blow an empathy gasket, but nothing she couldn’t recover from. Eventually, a long term solution could likely be worked out with Rigel 7.

I’d avoid DS9. Quark has enough Dabo girls, and considering where these have been, he’d look like a sugar daddy to them.

B5 is another option. Couple weeks with Ivanova and Delenn, and those gals will be ass-kicking Rangers ready to retake their homeworld. Unfortunately for the Centauri, Molari would likely be found strangled with his own…attributes.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-got-a-couple-hundred-refugees-from-gor-to-resettle-where-shall-i-place-them/557688/4 "2010-10-19T19:42:35Z")

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> [@Oy](#):
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> I suppose Oz is out of the question?

On the one hand, Glinda can resettle them further without help.

On the other hand, who wants to visit a world with Glinda in it in the first place?

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-got-a-couple-hundred-refugees-from-gor-to-resettle-where-shall-i-place-them/557688/5 "2010-10-19T19:47:01Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> On the other hand, who wants to visit a world with Glinda in it in the first place?

Generally, those of us who are not evil, i.e. everybody but you.

I really think Oz is a good choice for people in need of healing. I think the advanced SF universes might be too mind-blowing for people already traumatized. Then again, they might like it.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-got-a-couple-hundred-refugees-from-gor-to-resettle-where-shall-i-place-them/557688/6 "2010-10-19T19:53:11Z")

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They’d be perfect for my Baranduin Settlement Project.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-got-a-couple-hundred-refugees-from-gor-to-resettle-where-shall-i-place-them/557688/7 "2010-10-19T19:53:30Z")

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Rereading the Oz books, I realized that Glinda is just the local Ozite name for Αθηνά.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-got-a-couple-hundred-refugees-from-gor-to-resettle-where-shall-i-place-them/557688/8 "2010-10-19T19:54:12Z")

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> [@Oy](#):
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> Generally, those of us who are not evil, i.e. everybody but you.
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> I really think Oz is a good choice for people in need of healing. I think the advanced SF universes might be too mind-blowing for people already traumatized. Then again, they might like it.

Movie Glinda is a bitch. “You always had the power to go back home, Dorothy. I just didn’t tell you because you had to find out for yourself.”  
As for Book-Glinda – well, there’s no sex in Oz, at least for humans. (Nobody dies but the population doesn’t increase.) So I’m not convinced she or Ozma or … um.. what’s-her-name are equipped to be helpful to the refugees.

> [@Chimera](#):
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> They’d be perfect for my Baranduin Settlement Project.

Middle-Earth is too close to Narnia. Plus there may be some bad feelings among the Ainur from my last visit.

> [@Oakminster](#):
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> ST: TNG would probably be your best bet.

Except that a slight miscalculation takes you to Klingon or Romulan or Dominion or Cardassian space. And those folks are too quick on the trigger finger for my taste.

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> Troi can talk the girls down…might blow an empathy gasket

What’s your point?

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-got-a-couple-hundred-refugees-from-gor-to-resettle-where-shall-i-place-them/557688/9 "2010-10-19T19:55:04Z")

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> [@Oy](#):
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> Generally, those of us who are not evil, i.e. everybody but you.

You understand that there is no fucking in Oz, right?

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-got-a-couple-hundred-refugees-from-gor-to-resettle-where-shall-i-place-them/557688/10 "2010-10-19T19:59:38Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> You understand that there is no fucking in Oz, right?

What’s your point? There’s no desire in Oz either.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-got-a-couple-hundred-refugees-from-gor-to-resettle-where-shall-i-place-them/557688/11 "2010-10-19T20:04:30Z")

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> [@Oy](#):
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> What’s your point? There’s no desire in Oz either.

I don’t think “everybody but Skald” would want to live in a place with no fucking and/or no desire to fuck. I, for one, do not wish to live in such a place. For that matter, I suspect warriors and/or lawyers are turned away at the border for other reasons.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-got-a-couple-hundred-refugees-from-gor-to-resettle-where-shall-i-place-them/557688/12 "2010-10-19T20:07:42Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> What’s your point?

Troi’s an empath. A boatload of refuges from Gor is, perhaps, slightly less overwhelming to such a person that an equal number of Holocaust survivors, but it’s still going to shock her to the very depths of her soul. She’ll be able to help them, but it will cost her dearly. It’s a price I suspect she’d be willing to pay…but it’s still a hefty price.

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-got-a-couple-hundred-refugees-from-gor-to-resettle-where-shall-i-place-them/557688/13 "2010-10-19T20:09:09Z")

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The “everybody but **Skald** ” referred to a place with Glinda, not the absence of sex bit.

**Skald** says these women have been abused sex slaves all their lives. I suspect most, if not all, of them could live quite happily in a place where sex just doesn’t exist.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-got-a-couple-hundred-refugees-from-gor-to-resettle-where-shall-i-place-them/557688/14 "2010-10-19T20:17:52Z")

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> [@Oy](#):
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> The “everybody but **Skald** ” referred to a place with Glinda, not the absence of sex bit.

Place with Glinda = Place with No Sex. Real people do not want to live there. Fictional refugees from Gor might. But nobody in Oz is gonna be able to deal with what these gals have been through. The language to describe what they’ve experienced may not exist in Oz.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-got-a-couple-hundred-refugees-from-gor-to-resettle-where-shall-i-place-them/557688/15 "2010-10-19T20:26:05Z")

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Read the OP carefully. It says “ **to** a life of degradation.” They haven’t necessarily been degraded yet. They may still, in fact, be A+s. Musn’t assume that they have been _overly_ traumatized.

The Kildar doesn’t need any more concubines, but they’d fit right in in any case. Or you could give them over to Rosie Palm’s care as prospective members of the Seamstresses Guild.

Or maybe Castle Anthrax…

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-got-a-couple-hundred-refugees-from-gor-to-resettle-where-shall-i-place-them/557688/16 "2010-10-19T21:11:06Z")

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Send them to Torch in the Honorverse. A planet full of freed slaves and their descendants will have plenty of sympathy for them, will certainly be willing to educate them about how slavery is wrong and are used to dealing with such things as sex slaves with no useful education.

And if their former masters somehow end up there via some sort of flux in the space-time continuum, their visit will be…short. And messy.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-got-a-couple-hundred-refugees-from-gor-to-resettle-where-shall-i-place-them/557688/17 "2010-10-19T21:13:36Z")

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Beta Colony, in the Vorkosiverse.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-got-a-couple-hundred-refugees-from-gor-to-resettle-where-shall-i-place-them/557688/18 "2010-10-19T21:20:05Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> I don’t think “everybody but Skald” would want to live in a place with no fucking and/or no desire to fuck. I, for one, do not wish to live in such a place. For that matter, I suspect warriors and/or lawyers are turned away at the border for other reasons.

I have to agree with Oak here. You can’t get that sort of help from Glinda, any more than you can get investment counseling from Elrond.

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**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-got-a-couple-hundred-refugees-from-gor-to-resettle-where-shall-i-place-them/557688/19 "2010-10-19T21:30:12Z")

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Neverland. They could change the Lost Boys to Lost Men, but do it at their own pace. Hook and Smee would probably be afraid of them, so no problem there.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-got-a-couple-hundred-refugees-from-gor-to-resettle-where-shall-i-place-them/557688/20 "2010-10-19T21:47:39Z")

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Hollywood, California.

It’s _like_ another planet, sexy women are a much desired part of the acting community, & they will be much better paid/treated in a technic, moviemaking society.

Also, the chainmail bikinis will go over well on Venice Beach.

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