I fully admit I just sieve out stuff that doesn’t make sense* or is kinda irrelevant. (Like ‘it doesn’t like to be called that’…uhh ok. Let’s move on then)
*Like “Don’t follow Starbuck, she’s the avatar of death” Or whatever that was. And how or why Starbucks Viper and body found itself on the ‘Nuked Earth’. And Leoben freaking out cause it didn’t fit his prophecys and…OK GUYS. If I can’t find a way to fanwank whatever it is you’re doing, then we have a problem. Cause I am a MasterFanwanker.
They could have handwaved that bit about us having the same genetics by referring to the ‘13th tribe’ mentioned in Kobols Last Gleaming. And something about ‘what catastrophe could have sent them to the Stone Age?’
…but they didn’t. They specifically mention how strange it is to find identical humans here.
*Star Trek *had dozens, maybe hundreds of humanoid races capable of cross-breeding with humans scattered throughout the galaxy, some of which looked virtually identical to us (barring a pointy ear or forehead ridge). Why not BSG?
There was a Next Generation episode that had aliens placing DNA that would eventually become people on various star systems to explain how the various species were related.
All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again.
Ha! I forgot that blurb. It solidfies my theory that Moore had a bunch of blurbs and then had to build a series around it.
Moore: What have we got??!!
“All of this has happened before and will happen again”
“…And they have a Plan.”
“There are twelve models”
Moore: Right!
Just because something is deus ex machina doesn’t make it automatically bad. Especially in stories that already have high amounts of mysticism. They could have easily done what Starbuck did in other ways, but they chose to have Starbuck be an angel. And they didn’t do it all of a sudden, but had her be around for a while, even finding her dead body and having to deal with that. I enjoyed it and that they didn’t try to overly explain it.
It seemed to me to be similar to the Jewish tradition of not referring to God (or G-d if you really wanted to). They had other terms for God, but the show preferred the it doesn’t have a name and doesn’t like to be called God. Which was fine, IMO. That with the 12 colonies/tribes sort of thing seemed to be channeling some Jewish traditions into the story.
I believe that comes from “Thou shalt not take My name in vain” rather than anything else.
One might do it my accident if s/he went around saying the name of G-d all the time.
"In the words of Maimonides, the great Jewish codifier:
It is not only a false oath that is forbidden. Instead, it is forbidden to mention even one of the names designated for G‑d in vain, although one does not take an oath. For the verse commands us, saying: “To fear the glorious and awesome name.”1 Included in fearing it is not to mention it in vain."
Well, the first season was entertaining. Still not sure what to make of the doctor and his pretend girlfriend. Is he deluded? Is he possessed? Is he just insane? I like her better in ass-kicking mode, personally. And what’s with all the god business?
Oops.
Er, are you still here?
Uh… hopefully you are cool with the god business because it is there to stay. Dr. Baltar is definitely one of the most interesting characters.
The god business is… god business. This is your make-it-or-break-it moment - either accept that this is fantasy series with sci-fi trappings, with gods, prophecies, visions and magic items, or reject it and walk away. I’m as much a fan of fantasy as I am of science fiction, so I stayed and enjoyed it. Your own MMV.
Stipulating that, that’s why I specifically said “feel.” My problem wasn’t with some supposed shift in the level of science; my problem was with a sudden shift in the tone.
I’m not great on understanding physics on any level beyond “Gravity make thing go down.” But storytelling shit I’m a little more in tune with, and this just didn’t work for me as a storytelling shift.
I recorded the show and burned it to DVD. I tossed them when the god stuff came up.
So, Chefguy, now you know. Perhaps it won’t hurt so badly now that it is spoiled.
Since this thread was started by someone just starting shouldn’t spoilers be hidden?
Since we’re talking about the end here’s what I didn’t like:
I thought the fact that the story was in the past and they were our ancestors was all fine. In fact it was expected (my pet theory while the show was airing was the Cylons would “win” and it would they, not the humans who were our ancestors). What didn’t like was how so much of the Finale was “G-d did it”. Moore made such a big deal about how he hated that Star Trek waved away problems with Technology and he did the exact same thing using Religion. It was literally “A Wizard did it”. Also everything with Starbuck after she disappeared and reappeared was stupid as hell. As was Angel Baltar and Six walking off into the Sunset. The ending sucked.
I want to add The Devil was in the original. So…there’s that. I’m sure any supernatural trappings of the original won’t sway people dissappointed with the remake but…there it is.
Say what? The devil was in* Battlestar Ponderosa*?
