# I've Just Seen the Worst Movie Ever! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 3, 2006, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-just-seen-the-worst-movie-ever/338202 "2006-01-03T06:55:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-just-seen-the-worst-movie-ever/338202/21 "2006-01-03T16:20:43Z")
It certainly may not be to everyone’s taste. But it’s hardly a candidate for universal disdain. I found it to be a very powerful and moving flick, and I can still close my eyes and picture the black body bag being zipped over Joe Gideon’s face. “It’s showtime, folks!” ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-just-seen-the-worst-movie-ever/338202/22 "2006-01-03T16:26:55Z")
I’d like to ask the OP: how familiar are you with Broadway? Did you get, for example, that the Kate Jagger character, played by Ann Reinking, was pretty much Ann Reinking? That Leland Palmer’s Audrey character was Gwen Verdon? I’m thinking that it might help the appreciation of this film - a lot - if the viewer was familiar with Fosse and some of the then-famous Broadway faces. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-just-seen-the-worst-movie-ever/338202/23 "2006-01-03T16:31:02Z")
Speaking of images that stay with you forever – the opening number, **On Broadway** , is one of the best pieces of dance on film _evah_! ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-just-seen-the-worst-movie-ever/338202/24 "2006-01-03T17:24:52Z")
> [@Walloon](#): > > More like the 100th. That’s pretty early, considering how often it’s used today. ---
**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-just-seen-the-worst-movie-ever/338202/25 "2006-01-03T19:57:45Z")
IIRC Fosse said the musical scenes with Gideon in the hospital were inspired by Fosse’s hallucinations when he was in the hospital for his heart attack. > [@Bricker](#): > > I found it to be a very powerful and moving flick, and I can still close my eyes and picture the black body bag being zipped over Joe Gideon’s face. What really made that closing incredible was the most sardonic and darkest of dark humor punch line, the soundtrack being Ethel Merman singing “There’s No Business Like Show Business.” My jaw dropped at the juxtaposition. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-just-seen-the-worst-movie-ever/338202/26 "2006-01-03T20:20:49Z")
That’s so cute. Even if it’s the worst movie to ever win an Oscar, it’s not even close to the bottom of the barrel. Try watching _The Swarm_ sometime. Or or _Kingdom of the Spiders_ with William Shatner, _Gymkata_, _The Apple_, _Cool as Ice_ or _Breakin’ 2: Electric Boogaloo_. Or my personal pick for Worst Movie Ever, _Can Heironymous Merkin Ever Forget Mercy Humppe and Find True Happiness?__Heironymous_ and _The Apple_ are musicals, by the way, and _Breakin’ 2_ has a lot of dancing, so they’d be a good comparison to _All that Jazz_. Near the end of _The Swarm_, the scientists attempt to destroy the killer bees by… wait for it… burning Houston to the ground. Even though bees can fly. The movie also contains the greatest credit I’ve ever seen: “The African killer bee portrayed in this film bears absolutely no relationship to the industrious, hard-working, American honey bee to which we are indebted for pollinating vital crops that feed our nation.” ---
**Author:** ![ddgryphon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8c91f0/32.png) [@ddgryphon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ddgryphon)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-just-seen-the-worst-movie-ever/338202/27 "2006-01-03T23:36:44Z")
With all due respect, YellowTail, I believe you’ve come to the wrong forum to decry this movie. It is so filled with inside theatre \>wink wink nudge nudgeiness\< and the performances are great that, whatever faults it possesses, it more than makes up for in candidness and style. It is pure Fosse and that is good and that is sometimes not so good. The film is uneven, but the worst film ever – hardly. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-just-seen-the-worst-movie-ever/338202/28 "2006-01-04T00:29:58Z")
> [@YellowTail](#): > > Roy Schieder (yeah, the Jaws guy) as a Broadway song and dance man. C’mon, man – the guy from Jaws as Broadway’s top troubled song-and-dance man. That’s GOLD, baby, GOLD, I tell ya. 🆒 But all kidding aside, I too fail to see what the heck’s so abominable about it. It’s a just fine, if not spectacular or historic, Bob Fosse showpiece. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-just-seen-the-worst-movie-ever/338202/29 "2006-01-04T01:32:56Z")
It’s not even Roy Scheider’s worst movie, let alone worst ever. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2006, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-just-seen-the-worst-movie-ever/338202/30 "2006-02-12T21:40:28Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > But it’s hardly a candidate for universal disdain. I found it to be a very powerful and moving flick, and I can still close my eyes and picture the black body bag being zipped over Joe Gideon’s face. You might want to open your eyes just a smidgen there. Having watched the film less than 24 hours ago, I can tell you without hesitation that the body of Joe Gideon is not in a black body bag at the end of the film. His body is in a soft vinyl body bag, which is just slightly translucent so that his facial and upper torso features ( seen upside down in the frame, the top of his head is at the bottom of our frame, his chest is cut at the top of frame ) are seen slightly diffused. There is no way it can be mistaken for a black body bag. It is not black. You are wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2006, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-just-seen-the-worst-movie-ever/338202/31 "2006-02-12T23:01:36Z")
> [@MacTech](#): > > I’m sorry, but you _cannot_ have seen the [wors movie ever made](http://agonybooth.com/manos/), until you’ve seen the horror that is [Manos; the Hands of Fate](http://imdb.com/title/tt0060666/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnx0dD0xfGZiPXV8cG49MHxrdz0xfHE9TWFub3N8ZnQ9MXxteD0yMHxsbT01MDB8Y289MXxodG1sPTF8bm09MQ__;fc=4;ft=111;fm=1) > > …the only movie the Mads in MST3K ever _APOLOGIZED_ for showing to Joel and the Bots… 😛 _I’ve_ seen **Manos** …and it’s not as bad as [Bubble](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0454792/). Not that **Bubble** is the worst movie ever made either\*, just the last horrible movie I’ve seen. \*That would be [this one](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0124298/). ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2006, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-just-seen-the-worst-movie-ever/338202/32 "2006-02-12T23:10:56Z")
Sheesh. Typing blind again. > [@lissener](#): > > I think that after Yellowtail successfully [del]sues[/del] \*\*blackmails \*\*Roy Scheider for being nominated for an Oscar, he should buy us all bowler hats. ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2006, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-just-seen-the-worst-movie-ever/338202/33 "2006-02-12T23:24:20Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > . . . You must be thinking of a different _All That Jazz_; the sucky one, that’s worse than _Fingers_ . . . **HEY!!** Fingers _rocked_!! Don’t be dissin’ my man Harvey Keitel . . . ---
**Author:** ![deevee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@deevee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deevee)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2006, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-just-seen-the-worst-movie-ever/338202/34 "2006-02-12T23:51:29Z")
Just saw **The Jazz Singer** myself. Utter shite. Crap cinematography and that Jolson couldn’t carry a tune in a bucket. ---
**Author:** ![Kaspar\_Hauser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b3f665/32.png) [@Kaspar\_Hauser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaspar_Hauser)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2006, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-just-seen-the-worst-movie-ever/338202/35 "2006-02-13T00:47:16Z")
Someone revived a month-old thread to nitpick the color of a bodybag? ---
**Author:** ![Werd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/4491bb/32.png) [@Werd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Werd)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2006, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-just-seen-the-worst-movie-ever/338202/36 "2006-02-13T03:15:50Z")
> [@don't ask](#): > > Yarbles, great bouncy yarblockos to you. How about Kraftwerk’s track in that movie? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Rieux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dr.Rieux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Rieux)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2006, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-just-seen-the-worst-movie-ever/338202/37 "2006-02-13T04:17:12Z")
I don’t like the vast majority of musicals, but even I liked _All That Jazz_. ---
**Author:** ![stegon66](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee59a6/32.png) [@stegon66](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stegon66)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2006, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-just-seen-the-worst-movie-ever/338202/38 "2006-02-13T06:18:20Z")
_Bubble_ and _Fingers_ are bad movies? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2006, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-just-seen-the-worst-movie-ever/338202/39 "2006-02-13T06:21:11Z")
Is my memory faulty or didn’t they release two versions of All That Jazz? One was R rated and the other one had some sex scenes cut? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Lovely\_Margo\_Lane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/34f0e0/32.png) [@The\_Lovely\_Margo\_Lane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Lovely_Margo_Lane)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2006, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-just-seen-the-worst-movie-ever/338202/40 "2006-02-13T06:29:16Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > I think the OP is onto something. I think movies should be digitally updated, so the the costumes word by the characters are always in current style, rather than reflecting the times the movie was actually made in. Like colorization! That way we can judge a movie based on our own limited experience, instead of learning something about the time and place and people the movie is actually about. That would be WAY easier. BRILLIANT! You get Turner on the phone, I’ll order chinese… We’ll have this thing rolling by sunup! **Marley23** , _Kingdom of the Spiders_ isn’t that good, but I was surprised by how chilling the slowly zooming out matte painting ending was. I also liked the theme song. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-just-seen-the-worst-movie-ever/338202.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-just-seen-the-worst-movie-ever/338202.md?page=3)