# I've Said it Before.. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 10, 2016, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145 "2016-10-10T13:54:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/41 "2016-10-10T18:14:27Z")
> [@UberArchetype](#): > > Wow, repugnant indignation of the Billary crowd is strong! > > Just as I suspected! 😛 > > The truth does hurt sometimes, doesn’t it? 😉 If a troll shits in the woods and nobody gives a flying fuck, does he still “win”? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/42 "2016-10-10T18:24:58Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > OP can suck a dead bloated porpoise dick. Bad news. The dead bloated porpoise read the OP and says he wants an extra hundred dollars now. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/43 "2016-10-10T19:07:38Z")
> [@UberArchetype](#): > > Wow, repugnant indignation of the Billary crowd is strong! > > Just as I suspected! 😛 > > The truth does hurt sometimes, doesn’t it? 😉 A true Trumper. Get your ass kicked, declare VICTORY! ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/44 "2016-10-10T19:31:22Z")
Rumors and innuendo. Give me some meat. Otherwise, you’re a hack. ETA: This is the exact same shit that’s been thrown around for the past year. No actual people involved, just retired or “I know somebody” jackoffs throwing in their two cents with nothing to back it up, just like the OP. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/45 "2016-10-10T19:44:52Z")
> [@UberArchetype](#): > > Wow, repugnant indignation of the Billary crowd is strong! > > Just as I suspected! 😛 > > The truth does hurt sometimes, doesn’t it? 😉 As noted, you only got a big nothing-burger. The article omited in the headline that they were only retired or former agents that were not involved in the investigation. Not hard to get what the hack reporter wanted, a very underwhelming report. Most likely thing that took place here? You only saw the headline and like a parrot you cut and pasted that without bthering to check if the article was like it implied in the headline. Demand better from your sources or just show to all that you are indeed proud to have a “kick me” tatto on your forehead. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/46 "2016-10-10T19:47:07Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I served in the Navy and I know dozens or possibly even hundreds of people who have mishandled classified information. None of them were prosecuted. People don’t get prosecuted unless they deliberately release classified info for profit, treasonous reasons (spying), helping a journalist, etc. Boneheaded and careless handling of classified info _never_ results in prosecution. Saying it’s OK because everyone does it is the same argument people are using to defend Trump’s comments, and it’s no more acceptable to defend Hillary that way than it is to defend him. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/47 "2016-10-10T19:47:51Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > IANAL, but is non-consensual pussy grabbing a felony, or misdemeanor? In my state it would probably (weaseling because there are specific elements that must be met) be criminal sexual contact which is a 4th degree crime. So yes a felony. If there was penetration during the grab it would rise to sexual assault which is more serious. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/48 "2016-10-10T19:48:45Z")
> [@UberArchetype](#): > > Wow, repugnant indignation of the Billary crowd is strong! > > Just as I suspected! 😛 > > The truth does hurt sometimes, doesn’t it? 😉 Come back when you actually have some “truth”. You’ve been schooled, but you’re a typical right winger in that your idea of fun is to spam bullshit and then claim victory. \*“Hurr de hurr, I called Hillary a felon and all those libs could do was say she hasn’t been convicted of anything. Ain’t them libs dumb” \* ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/49 "2016-10-10T19:49:05Z")
> [@UberArchetype](#): > > Read the Article. It’s the Washington Post, so no thanks. Ignore all you like, fuckwit. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/50 "2016-10-10T20:24:55Z")
> [@UberArchetype](#): > > Read the Article. Ok, I’ve read the article. You make four assertions about Clinton in the OP; that’s she’s - a liar - a POS - a felon - who belongs in Jail Per the article, there are so far as I can tell, no claims that Clinton lied, and no claims that Clinton is a felon. There is a claim that she belongs in jail; this is from one ex-FBI agent, which, fair enough, that’s his opinion, but that also relies on the current FBI director and the agents who worked on this case performing their work poorly, either deliberately or accidentally. As an outside observer, I can’t see any particular reason to take one side over another. POS is a personal definition, and not really subject to study, but, oddly enough, the article doesn’t actually make a claim like _that_, either. The opprobrium seems firmly focused on the FBI director and the other agents involved with the situation, including requests that the agents concerned be questioned under oath. So, per the article, one of your claims is backed up; an ex-FBI agent claims that Clinton should be in jail. You seem to have done poorly. And, as an side, the headline seems factually wrong, per the contents; no current FBI agents are quoted about wanting to “revolt”. It’s purely ex-FBI personnel, who, being ex, don’t really have anything to “revolt” against. A big lie in a headline is poor writing, to say the least. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/51 "2016-10-10T20:32:20Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > It’s the Washington Post, so no thanks. Ignore all you like, fuckwit. New York Post. The Washington Post is the good guys. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/52 "2016-10-10T20:33:16Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > It’s the Washington Post, so no thanks. Ignore all you like, fuckwit. You mean The tabloid \*\* New York Post\*\*, The Washington Post is bound to get a Pulitzer for their job in this election, The New York Post will get the _ **Putzer** _ of the year award. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/53 "2016-10-10T20:33:31Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > Saying it’s OK because everyone does it is the same argument people are using to defend Trump’s comments, and it’s no more acceptable to defend Hillary that way than it is to defend him. Where did I say it’s okay? I was stating facts. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/54 "2016-10-10T20:34:10Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > It’s the Washington Post, so no thanks. Ignore all you like, fuckwit. That should be “New York Post”. The Washington Post is written by actual journalists. Oops, I see someone already corrected me. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/55 "2016-10-10T20:51:18Z")
“The ex-FBI agents are revolting.” “And [del]they stink on ice.[/del] they’re pretty stupid also.” ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/56 "2016-10-10T21:30:07Z")
Please please please, **UberArchetype** , do try to come up with something a little more compelling. I’m absolutely desperate to have an excuse to vote for Trump, so I can watch the world burn, but I just haven’t seen the argument that quite puts him over the top yet. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/57 "2016-10-10T21:32:45Z")
> [@Mona\_Lott](#): > > Hurrah, my first pitting. > > I expected more. > > So sad. It’s a lot like losing one’s virginity. The second time is better, lasts longer, and is more fun. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/58 "2016-10-10T21:57:34Z")
I bet **UberArchtype** has no chin. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/59 "2016-10-10T22:27:45Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I served in the Navy and I know dozens or possibly even hundreds of people who have mishandled classified information. None of them were prosecuted. People don’t get prosecuted unless they deliberately release classified info for profit, treasonous reasons (spying), helping a journalist, etc. Boneheaded and careless handling of classified info _never_ results in prosecution. Seconded. I was a USAF Cryptologic Linguist Specialist. We had one of those super-high Top Secret Codeword clearances. The worst I ever saw was Article 15 (non-judicial punishment) and loss of rank. Much more likely to simply have a sit down with the XO that wouldn’t be half as difficult as Secretary Clinton’s 11 hour grilling. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/60 "2016-10-10T23:47:23Z")
> [@UberArchetype](#): > > Wow, repugnant indignation of the Billary crowd is strong! > > Just as I suspected! 😛 > > The truth does hurt sometimes, doesn’t it? 😉 This is great **UberArchetype** , you’re the man. Let’s really strategise on this. Let’s see now: if you say _even stupider shit_ the libtards will get even more butthurt, so you’ll win even bigger. It’s a win/win for you! The wronger you are, the more the lefty losers get their panties in a wad! The closer you come to having the ultimate in cretinously stupid opinion, based on the pinnacle of falsity and lies, the more your enemies lose! It’s genius. Sheer genius. All you need to do is be wronger and more stupid and you will achieve true mastery! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145.md?page=4)