# I've Said it Before.. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 10, 2016, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145 "2016-10-10T13:54:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/141 "2016-10-12T16:21:31Z")
> [@UberArchetype](#): > > I thought it was obvious neither one of them are qualified. 😕 > > This thread is supposed to be about Billary. How curious the immediate and entire response chain focuses on Trump. > > We’ll just have to write this off as a new variation in diversionary tactics called Web Forum Mass Stupidity, unless you’d care to stay on topic. > > Yeah close it, what’s the point? Considering that you refuse to engage with those who have actually presented facts to refute your claims, then yeah, it sounds like it might as well be closed. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/142 "2016-10-12T16:21:34Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Yup, just a troll. Can’t or won’t answer any real questions, consistently dodges any responsibility for his own position. > > This thread should probably be closed. Thread reported. Post 33 clinched it. I’m sure the OP had that one locked and loaded, ready to go as soon as he got enough negative responses, regardless of their merit. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/143 "2016-10-12T16:21:38Z")
> [@UberArchetype](#): > > Yeah close it, what’s the point? So we can point and laugh at you. Sad little muppet. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/144 "2016-10-12T21:58:26Z")
I’m afraid to ask because I’m sure the answer is horribly stupid, but what’s the deal with the constant "Billary"ing? Yes, I get that Hillary is married to Bill…so? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/145 "2016-10-12T22:05:03Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > I’m afraid to ask because I’m sure the answer is horribly stupid, but what’s the deal with the constant "Billary"ing? Yes, I get that Hillary is married to Bill…so? The Right has always \*hated \*the fact that Bill and Hillary work together, instead of him making all the decisions and her standing silently in back of him like a mannequin like a “good” First Lady. For them, implying that the Clintons are partners instead of master and servant is an insult. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/146 "2016-10-12T22:08:59Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > The Right has always \*hated \*the fact that Bill and Hillary work together, instead of him making all the decisions and her standing silently in back of him like a mannequin like a “good” First Lady. For them, implying that the Clintons are partners instead of master and servant is an insult. Mkay…so yeah, a horribly stupid non-issue. Got it. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/147 "2016-10-12T22:14:17Z")
Really, it is because Bill Clinton was such a horrible, vile, perverted detestable scumbag, and you should know that _all the country_ hated him and his failed administration that brought so much ruin upon us all, and a Hillary Clinton presidency would just be more of that misery. Hence, “Billary”, “Shillary”, “Hitlary”, and any other ever so clever wordplay is entirely appropriate. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/148 "2016-10-12T22:25:15Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Really, it is because Bill Clinton was such a horrible, vile, perverted detestable scumbag, and you should know that _all the country_ hated him and his failed administration that brought so much ruin upon us all, and a Hillary Clinton presidency would just be more of that misery. Hence, “Billary”, “Shillary”, “Hitlary”, and any other ever so clever wordplay is entirely appropriate. Ah yes. I had forgotten about the world ending in the 90’s. Good thing UberArchtype is around to remind us all that it did with such a brilliant use of portmanteau. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/149 "2016-10-12T22:33:57Z")
Is it too much to ask that the next dumb troll that starts dumb threads is a _smart_ dumb troll? ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/150 "2016-10-12T23:31:42Z")
> [@Twoflower](#): > > No, my position is that virtually all of the right-wing attacks against her for the last 30 years have all been bullshit. Seconded. To the point that when she \*does \*put a round or two into her own foot many really can’t tell any more. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/151 "2016-10-12T23:45:01Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Seconded. To the point that when she \*does \*put a round or two into her own foot many really can’t tell any more. In that sense, maybe it HELPS that she’s not a great public speaker - less inclination to go for the zingery catchphrase that later bites her in the ass. Frankly, I’d be cheering if her inaugural speech included the phrase “it’s about time you lazy congressional fucks started doing your damn jobs! Stop thinking about trying to hurt me and start thinking about how to help your constituents!” Ideally, of course, that call is not necessary because of a general tea party purging in the House and Senate elections. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/152 "2016-10-13T00:23:57Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > The Right has always \*hated \*the fact that Bill and Hillary work together, instead of him making all the decisions and her standing silently in back of him like a mannequin like a “good” First Lady. For them, implying that the Clintons are partners instead of master and servant is an insult. I think it’s a bit deeper. HRC is actually pretty boring and innocuous, and most of the evil deeds in her backstory (Benghazi, emails) are pissweak and not well understood at the kindergarten reading level at which the rightwing nutjob universe is written. Her storyline as an evil character doesn’t have a lot of visceral weight. Contrastingly, the legend of how Bill was impeached for being a raping sex monster is known to every rightwing moron. His “heel” storyline is well established. He’s a top shelf bogeyman. So in the current plotline, the more Bill and Hill can be tied together as an inseparable duo - virtually the same person - the better. ---
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/153 "2016-10-13T15:32:27Z")
> [@Twoflower](#): > > No, my position is that virtually all of the right-wing attacks against her for the last 30 years have all been bullshit. It’s almost like there’s been some sort of **coordinated conservative campaign** against the… …well, no, not all conservatives, that’s a really broad brush, let me say _right-wing_. A **coordinated _right-wing_ campaign** against the Cli… …well, really, it’s been too secretive to be called a campaign - how about _conspiracy_? A well- **coordinated right-wing _conspiracy_** against Bill and Hilla… … …good point, yes, so, it actually hasn’t been that well-coordinated. It’s just been insidious. Widespread. bigly. _Vast_. ---
**Author:** ![Shoujin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoujin/32/3884_2.png) [@Shoujin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoujin)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/154 "2016-10-13T16:22:45Z")
I found a clip that sums it up: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Rb8XmLUrCrU/maxresdefault.jpg "THE TROLL HUNTER (TROLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb8XmLUrCrU) Just watch the first 20 seconds. That should be enough. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/155 "2016-10-15T19:22:38Z")
> [@Twoflower](#): > > She’s been putting up with similar bullshit for 30 years, and can still maintain her composure. She’ll make an outstanding president on that alone. Ah, the Putin standard. Interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/156 "2016-10-15T20:12:43Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Ah, the Putin standard. Interesting. This just makes no sense at all. Next time, just type “argle bargle Hillary bad” Protip: Try not to bring up Trump’s BFF Putin in a political debate. It just makes people laugh and point at you. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/157 "2016-10-15T20:46:42Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > This just makes no sense at all. Next time, just type “argle bargle Hillary bad” > > Protip: Try not to bring up Trump’s BFF Putin in a political debate. It just makes people laugh and point at you. Easy there, tiger. The point is that if unflappable composure is what one holds in esteem, kinda hard to beat Putin. Sorry if reality upsets you. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/158 "2016-10-15T21:02:28Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Easy there, tiger. The point is that if unflappable composure is what one holds in esteem, kinda hard to beat Putin. Sorry if reality upsets you. Not particularly upset. Pointing. Laughing. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/159 "2016-10-15T21:10:06Z")
I thought the Putin standard was to be seen as [bald](http://bridgetomoscow.com/curious-fact-the-rule-of-the-leaders-succession) and not as bold… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145/160 "2016-10-15T21:55:55Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Not particularly upset. > Pointing. > Laughing. Oooooooo…pointing. :eek: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-said-it-before/768145.md?page=9)