# J. D. Vance cannot be elected - here's one reason why **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 19, 2022, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-d-vance-cannot-be-elected-heres-one-reason-why/971859 "2022-09-19T22:02:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-d-vance-cannot-be-elected-heres-one-reason-why/971859/21 "2022-09-20T16:07:28Z")
> [@bump](#): > > Why black women? Same thing. Black women because the right has been trying for years to spin “pro-choice” as an inherently racist position, since black women get proportionately more abortions than other categories. It’s nothing more than an attempt at a gotchaya, by way of pointing out “liberal hypocrisy”. “You claim that you support diversity, yet you endorse the killing of black babies. Checkmate!” Hence, “the left will celebrate this as a victory for diversity.” It makes no sense on its own, but if you’ve been indoctrinated into the conservative talking points, it makes perfect sense. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-d-vance-cannot-be-elected-heres-one-reason-why/971859/22 "2022-09-20T16:18:38Z")
My questions were all rhetorical- all those things in Vance’s post were intended to be inflammatory without actually adding to the point he was trying to make. It could have just as easily been local activists busing white women to Illinois, with respect to the point he was trying to make, but none of that is nearly as inciting to the Right. We all know that there’s nothing magical about California, 747s, George Soros or black women with respect to the point he was trying to make, but those things all fire up the people who he’s writing toward. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-d-vance-cannot-be-elected-heres-one-reason-why/971859/23 "2022-09-20T20:00:12Z")
I’m almost surprised he didn’t add a reference to MTV, which gets some people in the “Christian” Right riled up even though they haven’t been culturally relevant to anyone for many years. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-d-vance-cannot-be-elected-heres-one-reason-why/971859/24 "2022-09-21T02:01:49Z")
I wonder if there’s an element of “buzzword bot bingo” going on. IOW, a post by an RW candidate or talking head which contains enough RW buzzwords gets noticed by the Russian-, Koch-, or Murdoch-controlled bot network which then reposts, forwards, re-TwitFaces, talks up, or whatevers the original message. Thereby ensuring it “goes viral” in seconds or minutes, not days. Suddenly lots of people see that lots of other “people” are happy with this post. So of course they’re now happy about it too. And help to spread it even more. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-d-vance-cannot-be-elected-heres-one-reason-why/971859/25 "2022-09-21T17:32:16Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > And to make it audible, ‘The libs and the jews want to **exterminate the blacks** so vote Republican!’ But…don’t republicans want that? I’m so cornfused. ---
**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-d-vance-cannot-be-elected-heres-one-reason-why/971859/26 "2022-09-21T17:38:28Z")
Maybe he could go back three decades and reference Dungeons & Dragons!! Or go back seven decades and reference comic books!!! ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-d-vance-cannot-be-elected-heres-one-reason-why/971859/27 "2022-09-21T17:41:10Z")
And lose out on all the free labor they can provide the prison industrial complex? Also, what would the police use for target practice? ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-d-vance-cannot-be-elected-heres-one-reason-why/971859/28 "2022-09-21T17:56:45Z")
It’s not the same thing, but technically, the FBI can prosecute Americans for certain things (such as sex exploitation) done in foreign nations even if those things were legal in those foreign nations. So I wouldn’t be surprised to see someone make a constitutional argument that Texas still has jurisdiction over what Texas residents do in California. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-d-vance-cannot-be-elected-heres-one-reason-why/971859/29 "2022-09-22T00:00:07Z")
BTW, did y’all know that Mr. Vance is in a mixed-race marriage? Granted, she’s of South Asian descent, so to some people, maybe that’s OK. > **[Usha C. Vance](https://www.mto.com/lawyers/usha-c-vance)** ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-d-vance-cannot-be-elected-heres-one-reason-why/971859/30 "2022-09-22T00:10:21Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > BTW, did y’all know that Mr. Vance is in a mixed-race marriage? Granted, she’s of South Asian descent, so to some people, maybe that’s OK. > > [Usha C. Vance](https://www.mto.com/lawyers/usha-c-vance) ⁢ It would be okay with the type who care about that sort of stuff anyway. As long as you spout the views, they’ll consider you “one of the good ones.” If anything, they’d have more of a problem with her being a lawyer and not a housewife. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-d-vance-cannot-be-elected-heres-one-reason-why/971859/31 "2024-10-29T18:52:03Z")
I was post-diving on myself for an unrelated reason, and found this. Time will tell. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-d-vance-cannot-be-elected-heres-one-reason-why/971859/32 "2024-12-19T06:18:54Z")
Time is a Tight-lipped Cocksucker ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2025, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-d-vance-cannot-be-elected-heres-one-reason-why/971859/33 "2025-09-13T21:21:22Z")
Apparently Vance “cannot be elected” to the Presidency, post-Trump, because noted right-wing chronicler John McNaughton chose _ **not** _ to include him in the roll-call of Trumpians: > **[Don Moynihan (@donmoyn.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/donmoyn.bsky.social/post/3lyouvaizlc2t)** > > Its another McNaughton masterpiece. Choose your fighter. > > \[contains quote post or other embedded content\] (This masterpiece is in the news because McNaughton apparently saw his chance to make a buck off Charlie Kirk’s death—see the Seth Cotler post in the same thread.) ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-d-vance-cannot-be-elected-heres-one-reason-why/971859/34 "2025-09-14T21:23:25Z")
It wouldn’t take much to have Washington pissing on trump. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-d-vance-cannot-be-elected-heres-one-reason-why/971859/35 "2025-09-14T22:13:54Z")
You’re right–the angle would work out well. (McNaughton would probably sue anyone who did it, but it might be worth it…) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-d-vance-cannot-be-elected-heres-one-reason-why/971859.md?page=1)