# J.J. Abrams' Klingons (DVD deleted scene from Star Trek) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 9, 2009, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873 "2009-11-09T02:51:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Zoinks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/db5fbb/32.png) [@Zoinks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoinks)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/1 "2009-11-09T02:51:19Z")
[http://scifiwire.com/2009/10/finally-we-see-the-klingo.php#more](http://scifiwire.com/2009/10/finally-we-see-the-klingo.php#more) Behold Abrams’ Klingons in all their glory. And please no bitching about this not being Star Trek or Abrams getting the continuity wrong, there’s enough of that in the original link. I like the ambiguity of the Klingon masks, dammit. The Gestapo vibe is also interesting, I wonder if the fascist thing is getting more of a treatment in the next movie. ---
**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/2 "2009-11-09T05:51:44Z")
Oh, god, the comments… ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/3 "2009-11-09T05:59:42Z")
They looked like the Gorrillas from Planet of the Apes dressed up like Cylons, and really, trotting out the ear slugs from ST II again? I think this was best left out. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/4 "2009-11-09T06:16:35Z")
Only problem I have is 3 Klingons being taken down by one unarmed Romulan. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/5 "2009-11-09T12:57:59Z")
Does everyone have Ceti Eeels now? Are they given away as prizes at Holiday Fairs instead of goldfish? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/6 "2009-11-09T16:49:58Z")
No, but they are readily available on [cetialphawhatever.com](http://cetialphawhatever.com). Overnight delivery costs extra. ---
**Author:** ![Umbriel2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/4af34b/32.png) [@Umbriel2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Umbriel2)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/7 "2009-11-09T17:55:47Z")
> [@Tengu](#): > > Only problem I have is 3 Klingons being taken down by one unarmed Romulan. And, one might add, not some kind of Romulan commando, but a Romulan _miner_. ---
**Author:** ![Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/8 "2009-11-09T18:40:25Z")
Speaking of the Star Trek movie, Wil Wheaton just [revealed](http://wilwheaton.typepad.com/wwdnbackup/2009/11/in-which-a-fairly-major-secret-is-made-secret-no-more.html)that he provided the voices for the Romulans on Nero’s ship. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/9 "2009-11-09T18:43:41Z")
> [@Umbriel2](#): > > And, one might add, not some kind of Romulan commando, but a Romulan _miner_. What? He was a kid? Pretty big for his age. ---
**Author:** ![Mrs.Cake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2acd7d/32.png) [@Mrs.Cake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs.Cake)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/10 "2009-11-09T18:51:20Z")
No comment about these Klingons, but **Hypno-Toad** just reminded me that I need to have a _Galaxy Quest_ and _Star Trek_ marathon for Thanksgiving. ST will be my first Blu-Ray purchase! ---
**Author:** ![Zoinks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/db5fbb/32.png) [@Zoinks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoinks)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/11 "2009-11-09T20:29:28Z")
Well, didn’t Worf get pimp-slapped every week whenever they needed to emphasize how badass the latest monster was? And aren’t Vulcans and presumably their cousins, the Romulans, supposed to be, like, super strong? The Enterprise Klingons even got their asses kicked in by wu shu, which is like the least useful fighting art ever (pretty, though). Yeah, okay, this is a desperate fan-wank. ---
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/12 "2009-11-09T21:02:51Z")
> [@Hypno-Toad](#): > > What? He was a kid? Pretty big for his age. MINER not _minor_ ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/13 "2009-11-09T22:17:52Z")
**Zoinks** has a point, for a Warrior race the Klingons did get asskicked a lot. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/14 "2009-11-09T22:35:30Z")
In TNG, Corf got his ass kicked every week to show that the villain of the week was a badass. Unfortunately all you ever ended up seeing was Worf getting his ass kicked, so it made you wonder how capable he really was in the first place. Same deal here - Klingons apparently are now just ways to show how badass the person beating up the Klingon is. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/15 "2009-11-09T23:14:37Z")
Thinking yourself to be bad ass and actually being bad ass are 2 entirely different things - apparently the klingons couldnt even beat the tribbles in TOS, so apparently the only races they actually conquered were either pacifist or imaginary. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_the\_Immortal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Max\_the\_Immortal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_the_Immortal)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/16 "2009-11-10T00:06:05Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > In TNG, Corf got his ass kicked every week to show that the villain of the week was a badass. Unfortunately all you ever ended up seeing was Worf getting his ass kicked, so it made you wonder how capable he really was in the first place. > > Same deal here - Klingons apparently are now just ways to show how badass the person beating up the Klingon is. Incidentally, TV Tropes calls this [The Worf Effect](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheWorfEffect), regardless of what work of fiction you’re dealing with. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/17 "2009-11-10T00:12:16Z")
I had no idea Predator was going to be in the sequel. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/18 "2009-11-10T04:05:40Z")
Other than Abrams’ or the studio’s comments, how do we know that those WERE Klingons? ---
**Author:** ![holmes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e95f7d/32.png) [@holmes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/holmes)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/19 "2009-11-10T05:32:04Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > In TNG, Corf got his ass kicked every week to show that the villain of the week was a badass. Unfortunately all you ever ended up seeing was Worf getting his ass kicked, so it made you wonder how capable he really was in the first place. > > Same deal here - Klingons apparently are now just ways to show how badass the person beating up the Klingon is. Yeah, but didn’t the ass-kicking end during the Deep Space Nine run? i remember Worf and all the Klingons, being some dangerous Mofos. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/20 "2009-11-10T12:25:59Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Other than Abrams’ or the studio’s comments, how do we know that those WERE Klingons? Hrrrm… Perhaps being a prison warden is such a low-caste position in the Klingon Empire that they hire other races to perform the duties. There might as well be Tellerites or Pakleds under those helmets… [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873.md?page=2)