# J.J. Abrams' Klingons (DVD deleted scene from Star Trek)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 9, 2009, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873 "2009-11-09T02:51:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Eternal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@Eternal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eternal)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/21 "2009-11-10T12:33:30Z")

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I wouldn’t read anything into the helmets with ridges. It’s standard J.J. Abrams tomfoolery, the only purpose of which is to get people buzzing and excited about a story that never was and never will be.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/22 "2009-11-10T15:06:22Z")

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> [@FlightlessBird](#):
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> MINER not _minor_

You lost me.

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**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/23 "2009-11-10T16:48:50Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> Hrrrm…
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> Perhaps being a prison warden is such a low-caste position in the Klingon Empire that they hire other races to perform the duties. There might as well be Tellerites or Pakleds under those helmets…

Or just the wussiest Klingons, who always got beaten up for their lunch money 😉

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/24 "2009-11-10T17:28:26Z")

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> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#):
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> They looked like the Gorrillas from Planet of the Apes dressed up like Cylons, and really, trotting out the ear slugs from ST II again? I think this was best left out.

You do know that in the most recent movie, Nero used one of those on Pike. Of course he said they did something different than what the Klingon did. The Klingon made me think he was going to stuff it up Nero’s ass.

I was wondering what happened to ‘The wait is over’ line that did appear in the trailer. I thought the scene would be of Nero’s ship wiping out the Klingon armada, but how the heck did he get taken prisoner?

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**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/25 "2009-11-10T18:39:57Z")

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> [@Zebra](#):
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> I was wondering what happened to ‘The wait is over’ line that did appear in the trailer. I thought the scene would be of Nero’s ship wiping out the Klingon armada, but how the heck did he get taken prisoner?

Judging by how easily the klingon’s were bitchslaped I assumed he and his crew walked into the Klingon prison, lay down on the tables, strapped themselves in, then shouted for the guards to come in an tourture them. After a few squeemish moments for teh Klingon guards they finally were able to deliver their lines menacingly enough for the Romulan miner’s liking.

Good thing this was cut out… adds nothing to the movie.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/26 "2009-11-10T19:53:42Z")

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> [@Zebra](#):
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> You do know that in the most recent movie, Nero used one of those on Pike. Of course he said they did something different than what the Klingon did. The Klingon made me think he was going to stuff it up Nero’s ass.
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> I was wondering what happened to ‘The wait is over’ line that did appear in the trailer. I thought the scene would be of Nero’s ship wiping out the Klingon armada, but how the heck did he get taken prisoner?

His ship was in rough shape after the Kelvin exploded inside it.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/27 "2009-11-10T20:04:26Z")

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> [@kingpengvin](#):
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> Good thing this was cut out… adds nothing to the movie.

The only problem is that none of what was in the movie added anything to the movie. As it was, it was just a collection of random scenes which all happened to be fairly nifty seeming. One more could hardly have hurt.

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**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/28 "2009-11-19T11:22:25Z")

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Here’s a look at Abrams’ [Gorn and Salt Vampire](http://io9.com/5407022/jj-abrams-version-of-star-treks-salt-vampire-and-gorn-revealed).

…So, was the original plan to just cram all anybody could think off from the old serial into the movie and hope that something would stick?

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**Author:** ![FordTaurusSHO94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f07891/32.png) [@FordTaurusSHO94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordTaurusSHO94)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/29 "2009-11-19T15:04:56Z")

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I watched a different deleted scene last night that had Klingon language and showed Nero’s ship facing what I assume were Bird’s of Prey.

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**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/30 "2009-11-19T16:28:48Z")

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> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#):
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> Here’s a look at Abrams’ [Gorn and Salt Vampire](http://io9.com/5407022/jj-abrams-version-of-star-treks-salt-vampire-and-gorn-revealed).
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> …So, was the original plan to just cram all anybody could think off from the old serial into the movie and hope that something would stick?

I actually wish they had more of the non-human-like aliens. As it stands all we got is Awkward Long Face at the bar.

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/31 "2009-11-19T16:46:47Z")

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> [@athelas](#):
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> I actually wish they had more of the non-human-like aliens. As it stands all we got is Awkward Long Face at the bar.

Hmm. “Look, we appreciate your enthusiasm, but our ships are not generally set up for methane breathing jelly fish. Maybe you can build your own cruisers?”

Think about the modifications we have to do to buisnesses so that the handicapped can use them. Some of these modifications are not inconsequential.

At some point, you’ll have to segregate the crews based on enviornmental capacity. Tholians, for example, need very high temperature rooms, as well as exotic atmospheres, IIRC.

So, the oxygen breathing bipedal humanoids are going to be interacting with other O2 breathers, as far as casual settings, anyway.

[aside] In the DS9 episode where Sisko and company went back in time to Space Station K7 (the episdoe _Trials and Tribble-ations_), how did Worf react to the tribbles? These type of inter-species compatibility issues may also have to be addressed…[/aside]

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/32 "2009-11-19T17:25:17Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> Perhaps being a prison warden is such a low-caste position in the Klingon Empire that they hire other races to perform the duties. There might as well be Tellerites or Pakleds under those helmets…

Read that as “Teletubbies or Pakleds…” I’ dlike to see Teletubbies getting sh\*tstomped by a Romulan, that would be kind of fun.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/33 "2009-11-19T20:00:45Z")

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> [@athelas](#):
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> I actually wish they had more of the non-human-like aliens. As it stands all we got is Awkward Long Face at the bar.

I suppose Uhura’s Orion roommate and the big-eyed doctor who delivered James T. Kirk don’t count.

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/34 "2009-11-19T20:56:33Z")

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I would say that the Orion roommate counted for a lot of my enjoyment of the movie. 😃

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**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/35 "2009-11-19T23:11:56Z")

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A compilation of [several deleted scenes](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcK9OBKZme4), including Rura Penthe.

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**Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/36 "2009-11-20T01:30:17Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I suppose Uhura’s Orion roommate and the big-eyed doctor who delivered James T. Kirk don’t count.

The doctor I can see, but I don’t see why an Orion would count as not human-like. In fact, I’d say her body was very human.

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**Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-j-abrams-klingons-dvd-deleted-scene-from-star-trek/516873/37 "2009-11-20T02:54:06Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> In TNG, Corf got his ass kicked every week to show that the villain of the week was a badass.

One of my favorite DS9 scenes: Weoun says something rude about Dax while in arms reach. Worf reaches out and snaps his neck like a chicken wing. The Cardassians laugh. 🙂

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