# Jack Batty, what the hell...?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-batty-what-the-hell/723179>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2015, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-batty-what-the-hell/723179 "2015-06-22T20:49:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-batty-what-the-hell/723179/1 "2015-06-22T20:49:43Z")

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This got my ire up, and my ire has been drawing workman’s comp for some time:

> [@Stupid Republican idea of the day](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/22412):
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> Jesus. When did this place turn into Free Republic Left? You guys are going to feel foolish the next time Sarah Palin makes a “crosshairs” crack.

Jesus Christ on a fuckstick conga line, what is this bullshit? Is reasoned opinion on this board now Freepish and Palindicative? I’m sorry that your literacy-challenged republic once thought Vice President Sarah Palin was something above what a schizophrenic hears the voices whisper to him in a food-poisoning-induced nightmare, but you personally have fallen through subcellars of stupidity to suggest she would ever have an kind of moral or intellectual edge over this message board, or indeed over a pile of diarrhea-stained post-it notes covered in scribbled Bieber lyrics.

Get your fucking act together, Jack, or seek medical sterilization at first opportunity.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-batty-what-the-hell/723179/2 "2015-06-22T20:57:42Z")

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I’ll respond when I think of something of something of substance.

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**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-batty-what-the-hell/723179/3 "2015-06-22T20:59:37Z")

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You should consult with \*\*elucidator \*\*on that. (And maybe **andros**.)

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-batty-what-the-hell/723179/4 "2015-06-22T21:12:48Z")

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Well I don’t know just what happened or who’s got the high ground, but on its surface that was a mighty fine smack-down that could be copy/pasted pretty much as it is. Well done!  
8.6/10, lost 1 point for excessive brevity, concentration of content notwithstanding.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-batty-what-the-hell/723179/5 "2015-06-22T21:15:08Z")

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I used to play bass for “Freepish and Palindicative.”

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-batty-what-the-hell/723179/6 "2015-06-22T21:57:19Z")

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Some posters were riffing on a comment stating that it was “open season” on Republicans. Nobody was advocating actual murder. I think.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-batty-what-the-hell/723179/7 "2015-06-22T22:02:25Z")

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Naw, he had a valid point. As one of the participants in the “hunting for Republicans” joke, I’ll admit, it was in bad taste.

Not quite as bad as the “crosshairs on politicians’ names” joke, however, for that identified specific individuals. The “hunting” joke is abstract, and first forces you to contemplate Republicans running naked through the forest, with racks on antlers on their heads. The “crosshairs” joke is closer to the ugly reality of people taking shots at real people.

So, our joke was less offensive, but, well, sure, fact is it was a bit tacky.

And he has another good point, which, ineptly, he didn’t expand on. Not that we’d feel foolish if Sarah Palin made her joke again, but, like Sarah Palin, we’d feel foolish if some asshole actually went out and shot a Republican. The Gabby Giffords shooting was what made Palin feel foolish, and so, if someone blows the head off a Republican Congressman from Montana, we who were making the hunting joke would feel bad.

Also, the BBQ Pit is not the same as a web site sponsored by an actual politician.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-batty-what-the-hell/723179/8 "2015-06-22T22:09:37Z")

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I glad SOMEBODY actually came in to explain what the bitching was actually about.

OP gets an F minus for lack of detail.

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**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-batty-what-the-hell/723179/9 "2015-06-22T23:01:09Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> OP gets an F minus for lack of detail.

Well, his main defect\* was probably leaving out [this link](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18459174&postcount=25).

\*In this OP only, I mean. I really can’t speculate regarding Mr. **Ekers** ’ main defect(s) in general. I’d suggest a note to _Mrs_. Ekers if you’re that interested.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-batty-what-the-hell/723179/10 "2015-06-22T23:07:59Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> I used to play bass for “Freepish and Palindicative.”

What a coincidence. I was rhthym guitar for Fuckstick Conga Line.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-batty-what-the-hell/723179/11 "2015-06-22T23:16:23Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> The Gabby Giffords shooting was what made Palin feel foolish…

Did it? I recall how it made her look even more foolish, but I don’t recall her expressing remorse for it. Or even getting how tacky it was.

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**Author:** ![desertmonk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@desertmonk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/desertmonk)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-batty-what-the-hell/723179/12 "2015-06-22T23:21:05Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> What a coincidence. I was rhthym guitar for Fuckstick Conga Line.

I saw you guys in a little club before you went mainstream!

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-batty-what-the-hell/723179/13 "2015-06-22T23:52:47Z")

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Hipster.

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**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2015, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-batty-what-the-hell/723179/14 "2015-06-23T00:15:37Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> What a coincidence. I was rhthym guitar for Fuckstick Conga Line.

I think I remember your underground album. Was it sort of punk with a Latin swing sensibility? Or am I thinking of _Fuckwalk Like an Egyptian_?

(I met a guy in a bar once who gave me the whole history of the band breaking up and the front man starting up _The Fuckstix_ with a young Trent Reznor. I didn’t have the heart to tell him that was actually the _Subcellars of Stupidity_.)

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**Author:** ![desertmonk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@desertmonk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/desertmonk)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2015, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-batty-what-the-hell/723179/15 "2015-06-23T00:41:04Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> Hipster.

Hey! Even in The Pit there are rules.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2015, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-batty-what-the-hell/723179/16 "2015-06-23T01:08:38Z")

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> [@desertmonk](#):
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> Hey! Even in The Pit there are rules.

Yeah, this ain’t 'Nam, man.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2015, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-batty-what-the-hell/723179/17 "2015-06-23T02:09:09Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Did it? I recall how it made her look even more foolish, but I don’t recall her expressing remorse for it. Or even getting how tacky it was.

Someone must have gotten it, because they took down the crosshairs web site. That’s at least a backhanded acknowledgement of error.

(Republicans usually double down on the stupid…)

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2015, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-batty-what-the-hell/723179/18 "2015-06-23T13:06:40Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Yeah, this ain’t 'Nam, man.

You’re right. It’s Chinatown!

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2015, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-batty-what-the-hell/723179/19 "2015-06-23T13:30:49Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I’m sorry that your literacy-challenged republic once thought Vice President Sarah Palin was something above what a schizophrenic hears the voices whisper to him in a food-poisoning-induced nightmare, but you personally have fallen through subcellars of stupidity to suggest she would ever have an kind of moral or intellectual edge over this message board, or indeed over a pile of diarrhea-stained post-it notes covered in scribbled Bieber lyrics.

The degree to which this sentence is mangled (coming from a poster sneering at our beloved “literacy-challenged republic”) did not actually fry my irony meter, but it did briefly push the needle into the red zone.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2015, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-batty-what-the-hell/723179/20 "2015-06-23T13:49:20Z")

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Aside from the typo that rendered “any” as “an” (and arguably the lack of capitalization on “post-it”), there is nothing grammatically improper about that sentence. Your irony meter is oversensitive.

Just like everything else in your country.

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