# Jack Chick has died. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 24, 2016, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-has-died/769627 "2016-10-24T21:13:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-has-died/769627/81 "2016-11-03T22:13:15Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > :eek: Explain. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![NVME702-redux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a183cd/32.png) [@NVME702-redux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NVME702-redux)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-has-died/769627/82 "2016-11-03T22:35:13Z")
I have an older cousin that served several stints in prison and was “saved”. Upon his release about 15 years ago, he had become quite a devoted pastor in the Kansas City area, administering to a smallish congregation, leading community service works, visiting the elderly and providing spiritual guidance. However amazing his recovery, I was sad to see he was stamping Chick Tracts to pass out this Halloween to the trick or treaters. Made me feel so sad. He has kids that are of trick or treating age. That sucks Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-has-died/769627/83 "2016-11-04T05:12:04Z")
> [@NVME702-redux](#): > > I have an older cousin that served several stints in prison and was “saved”. Upon his release about 15 years ago, he had become quite a devoted pastor in the Kansas City area, administering to a smallish congregation, leading community service works, visiting the elderly and providing spiritual guidance. However amazing his recovery, I was sad to see he was stamping Chick Tracts to pass out this Halloween to the trick or treaters. Made me feel so sad. > He has kids that are of trick or treating age. That sucks > Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk I deplore that myself; but maybe he preferred it to doling out what he called “sugary treats.” As you know, Jack Chick opposed Halloween. This puts me in mind of a quote at the beginning of Chapter 15 of _Pudd’nhead Wilson,_ concerning tolerance of other people’s preferences and habits. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-has-died/769627/84 "2016-11-04T11:25:08Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > Explain. 😕 I thought you were going for a reaction; why mention it otherwise? ---
**Author:** ![LC\_Strawhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@LC\_Strawhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LC_Strawhouse)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-has-died/769627/85 "2016-11-04T14:45:14Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > The ignorance of the guy was limitless. > > The first one I saw was put in my dept. mail slot at the college I worked at. Of course it was one of Jack’s classic “All profs are Jews\* who hate religion and are trying to proselytize their students.” tracts. > > Usual plot, horribly racistly done. Prof is ranting against religion and the pure and perfect student stands up and rebuts It All. > > It including such gems like the “fact” that Neanderthal Man was really just one old arthritic dude. Right, we have only one Neanderthal skeleton. > > The final point the student makes (which causes the whole class to march out singing a hymn) was how the protons in a nucleus repel each other due to their charge and therefore all of Nuclear Physics is wrong, wrong, wrong. > > Which is why the Hiroshima bomb was a complete dud. :rolleyes: > > This idea is so incredibly common about True Believers. Clearly Scientists never saw anything odd about such-and-such and have no explanation. Someone else being being wrong magically means the True Believers are right. > > I tried looking for this tract online a few years back. I found one that was very similar but the proton things was done differently. Implying that Scientists just made up stuff to explain it away. > > Again. Hiroshima. > > I think Scientists know what they’re doing. > > - All the Jewish profs I knew in the building at that time were very religious, BTW. Were you talking about [this one](https://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0055/0055_01.asp)? I remember having a good laugh over it when someone emailed it around years ago, but it’s got nothing to do with any Jewish references. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-has-died/769627/86 "2016-11-04T14:49:35Z")
> [@gytalf2000](#): > > Nifty! Good to be able to put a face to the cartoonist, at long last. [They put a more recent photo, and a higher quality one, on his website now that he died.](https://www.chick.com/information/Jack-Chick/) ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-has-died/769627/87 "2016-11-04T16:12:05Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > I thought you were going for a reaction; why mention it otherwise? Because the girl and her family certainly were NOT hard-shell Jack Chick-type Baptists! ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-has-died/769627/88 "2016-11-04T16:14:31Z")
> [@LC\_Strawhouse](#): > > Were you talking about [this one](https://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0055/0055_01.asp)? I remember having a good laugh over it when someone emailed it around years ago, but it’s got nothing to do with any Jewish references. 😕 I never could see anything Jewish about the professor. No Star of David, no yarmulke, no stereotyped Yiddish expressions. I am hard put to see how Chick was making him out to be Jewish. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-has-died/769627/89 "2016-11-04T21:42:06Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > You have to understand, to this faction of the Ultrafundamentalist, modern scientific theories are nothing but “just so” stories the eggheads made up to shoehorn in a materialistic explanation for what happens while perversely denying the obvious truth that it’s all God and Satan and whatever happens does so because God makes it so that we will behold his glory. There is no reason to them why objectively the theories of planetary formation, plate tectonics and evolution would be any more credible than Genesis on their face, and Genesis came from God! > > This is greatly helped by how many people in the target audience are of the mentality “I don’t understand it and I’m not stupid… so it must be a line of bullshit.” From their religion-centered POV there has to be such thing as THE answer, Eternal Truth, and it should be self-evident and understandable at the reading level of the KJV. Relativity and quantum physics are particularly contrary to this. And that a theory can continue to be debated a century later is only evidence that the scientists are pulling it out of their asses. Nuance and uncertainty are Satan’s smokescreens. > (That audience are also the heirs of a populist American culture that celebrates “inventors”, not theoretical scientists. CLEVER boys that had a bright idea and made it work, because, God-given American moxie. ) Wow! Excellent! You described the attitude of so many of my “Church of Christ” pals so well. Spot-on analysis! ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-has-died/769627/90 "2016-11-04T22:34:43Z")
> [@gytalf2000](#): > > Wow! Excellent! You described the attitude of so many of my “Church of Christ” pals so well. > Spot-on analysis! And they’re pals of yours? Hey, all you have to do now is quote this to them and you won’t have to have them as pals anymore. Simple, huh? ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-has-died/769627/91 "2016-11-05T05:58:24Z")
I knew a guy back in West Texas who believed every word of every Jack Chick tract. He finally stopped pushing them due to our ridicule of him, but I’m sure he believes them to this day. Save me a place by the fire, Jack. ---
**Author:** ![Find\_Friends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@Find\_Friends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Find_Friends)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-has-died/769627/92 "2016-11-14T08:03:30Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > I believe the gluons are a late edit to the tract. I don’t think they were in the original version. But that’s just my memory. Yes, I was going to point out the differences in versions, but didn’t get around to it. There is one fundamentalist fellow who has never had a problem saying when he disagreed with JtC, with whom he had a pleasant ongoing association. He deals in old tracts and has a site which includes variations. I seem to recall another change he pointed out. While he does not “believe” in “macro-evolution” (although he has no problem with great age) he has quite a sense of humor on the subject. In the case of this one tract he points out the irony of an anti-evolution tract going through more than one mutation. * * * No doubt at some point someone with a lit bit of scientific background pointed out how silly the original tract was on this topic. It essentially said that\*\*\* Jesus was the pi meson\*\*\*, if you had any briefing at all on the strong nuclear force. So JtC comes back with, essentially: \*Oh, YEAH??? I hear tell that gluons are “just a theory” because no one had observed any!!! \* Did I say “little bit”? He must have had some substantive advice, because this leaps ahead into quark theory. For those of you scratching your heads, the strong nuclear force is considered a “residual” force. The only reason nucleons (protons or neutrons) and mesons (such as the pi mesons) exist at all is that a more fundamental force holds three quarks, or a quark-antiquark pair, together. That force, of course (I can see the light-bulb going on over your head) is mediated by the gluon. And I came across someone stating, that _ **YES Virginia** _, gluons HAD been detected. I should have saved that source. … In any event, JtC just continued to play “G-d of the gaps” and kick the can further along. No big surprise. ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-has-died/769627/93 "2016-11-14T15:31:03Z")
How considerate of him to say “G-d.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-has-died/769627/94 "2016-11-20T18:41:16Z")
> [@NDP](#): > > […] > That said, did Jack Chick ever do any comics that dealt with political rather than religious matters? Around the same time I saw my first Jack Chick comics (late 80s), I remember seeing a couple right-wing political comics on AIDS and illegal immigration that were written and drawn in a style very much like Chick’s. Like many Chick tracts, they were distributed by being dropped off at supermarket magazine racks without the apparent permission of the store manager. The closest I ever saw to that was a tract in which he claimed that Red China had, and has, an aggressive stance in the Far East so intense that the country is pressuring its neighbors not to ally with the United States; is threatening Japan and India; and eventually plans to invade Australia (one panel showed a map of Australia labeled “NEW CHINA”). ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-has-died/769627/95 "2016-11-20T19:41:55Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > The closest I ever saw to that was a tract in which he claimed that Red China had, and has, an aggressive stance in the Far East so intense that the country is pressuring its neighbors not to ally with the United States; is threatening Japan and India; and eventually plans to invade Australia (one panel showed a map of Australia labeled “NEW CHINA”). “Aoujou Nambien.” (Cordwainer Smith’s “Norstrilia” – very strange SF – had China taking over the whole region, including Australia, and Oz became a continent-sized city named Aoujou Nambien. I wish to goodness I knew what that translated to.) ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-has-died/769627/96 "2016-11-20T21:24:30Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > “Aoujou Nambien.” > > (Cordwainer Smith’s “Norstrilia” – very strange SF – had China taking over the whole region, including Australia, and Oz became a continent-sized city named Aoujou Nambien. I wish to goodness I knew what that translated to.) FROM what language? ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-has-died/769627/97 "2016-11-20T22:02:28Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > FROM what language? Well, from context, it would be Chinese. (In the story, he uses the word “Chinesian.”) Cordwainer Smith – Paul Linebarger – spoke Chinese, and his stories are modeled after Chinese story-telling traditions. ETA: Smith often used language puns for names. One of his characters was named Sto Odin, which is Russian for “one hundred and one.” Another character was named Panc Ashash, which I believe is Sanskrit (but I don’t recall at this point) for some other number. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Aoujou Nambien was a numerical allusion. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-has-died/769627.md?page=4)