# Jack Chick just converted me to Christianity \[or not\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 15, 2010, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-just-converted-me-to-christianity-or-not/529048 "2010-02-15T06:49:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![dhkendall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9adbd/32.png) [@dhkendall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dhkendall)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2010, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-just-converted-me-to-christianity-or-not/529048/41 "2010-02-15T19:21:53Z")
> [@Gagundathar](#): > > And since ALL non-Christian beliefs are Satanic Nit: All non-_Protestant_ beliefs are Satanic, remember the admonistion not to ask the Virgin Mary for “help” at the end? (And I can assume he doesn’t like JWs or Mormons (who could arguably be called “Christian”) ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2010, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-just-converted-me-to-christianity-or-not/529048/42 "2010-02-15T19:26:38Z")
And, on top of everything else, we get a nice heaping dose of western cultural imperialism too, combined with a strawman on top. Yes, if someone can actually find a Native American sect which operates like this one does, I’ll take everything back. And…he actually had a character say “Stop it, you’re killing me!”?!? LOL! If anyone thought this one was a Poe’s Law style parody, I wouldn’t blame them. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-just-converted-me-to-christianity-or-not/529048/43 "2010-02-15T19:44:20Z")
> [@Jragon](#): > > I might be off, but aren’t they described in the Bible as basically giant wheels of fire? No. Different angels are described differently, in different books. Angels who interact with humans (such as the Archangels) generally appear in human form (though not, typically, winged). Ones who generally only interact with God, and only show around humans when He wants to awe us…less so. Wheels; beings with four wings, four faces (those of an ox, a human, an eagle, and a lion), and hooves, followed by flame and lightning; 6 winged beings whose wings obscure their form… ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2010, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-just-converted-me-to-christianity-or-not/529048/44 "2010-02-15T20:03:22Z")
> [@dhkendall](#): > > To tie in with the thread title, though, does anyone REALLY accept Jesus based on Chick tracts? I mean, if I, as a Christian, find his stuff utterly laughable and deserving of nothing but parody I can’t see how it would work on all those “heathens” out there. The vibe I generally get from Chick is that he’s really aiming at people who are already nominal Christians, but in the lukewarm mainstream or maybe even only culturally so (Wedding, Funeral and Christmas Christians), who are not very clear of what the doctrines really are; he feels they need to be scared into moving in his direction. Of course, his direction is wack, but he doesn’t care, he expects to be HAW HAW HAWing with faceless Jesus while you and I do the backstroke in the lake of burning brimstone. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2010, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-just-converted-me-to-christianity-or-not/529048/45 "2010-02-15T20:06:47Z")
If that one woman had a shotgun and was perfectly willing to murder someone in cold blood with it in broad daylight, why did they bother screwing around with Crazy Wolf in the first place? ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-just-converted-me-to-christianity-or-not/529048/46 "2010-02-15T20:07:52Z")
“I’m going to **kill** you, Mary! I’m going to **rip** out your heart!.. Here I am.” That last line seems a bit unnecessary. “_And Satan went **nuts!** _” 😃 So why didn’t Margaret just blow Mary away with her trusty ol’ shotgun, too, while she was at it? (Edit: What **pravnik** said) I also like the bit at the end: _Did you accept Jesus Christ as your own personal saviour? Yes [] No []_ _Will you go to the spring dance with me? Yes [] No []_ ---
**Author:** ![Bright\_Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cdc98d/32.png) [@Bright\_Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bright_Life)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2010, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-just-converted-me-to-christianity-or-not/529048/47 "2010-02-15T20:27:07Z")
I’m pretty sure Jack Chick converted himself with his own tracts. It’s as if he reviews them periodically, them chooses a new object or non-protestant cultural more to insert into his old formulas. Each time he adds a non sequitor, he adopts it as the “god’s honest truth.” This man doesn’t need the bible, he creates his own circular arguments. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2010, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-just-converted-me-to-christianity-or-not/529048/48 "2010-02-15T21:00:32Z")
> [@](#): > > To tie in with the thread title, though, does anyone REALLY accept Jesus based on Chick tracts? I mean, if I, as a Christian, find his stuff utterly laughable and deserving of nothing but parody I can’t see how it would work on all those “heathens” out there. I think he’s playing to the Chicklets out there. People who already basically believe this particular brand of crazy but might backslide into sanity due to exposure to the real world. Chick tracts are there to remind them not to trust anyone around them, including family and friends. Sure they may seem like good people who are trying to help you - but they’re actually tools of Satan!!! The only people you can trust are your fellow cult members. ---
**Author:** ![Find\_Friends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@Find\_Friends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Find_Friends)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2010, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-just-converted-me-to-christianity-or-not/529048/49 "2010-02-15T21:13:41Z")
> [@Gagundathar](#): > > I always find the image of Jesus sitting on the giant throne with a blank ovoid for a head extremely odd. That _is_ supposed to be Jesus, right? Yes it is, and JTC has had a long tradition of portraying him with a light bulb head. OTOH, in the fairly early \* tract “[High There!](http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0076/0076_01.asp)” we see a vague face through the light. The idea is that the Bible portrays Jesus at the Judgment as having a face that shines like the sun. * * * - Don’t let the copyright date fool you. It’s been updated from its first appearance in the 70’s, and Sickie Chickie never mentions earlier copyright dates. (For a review of this tract, see [this page](http://www.monsterwax.com/chickreviews2.html#hi).) * * * Trans Fat Og (Yep, it’s **me**!) ---
**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2010, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-just-converted-me-to-christianity-or-not/529048/50 "2010-02-15T22:42:30Z")
> [@Trans Fat Og](#): > > OTOH, in the fairly early \* tract “[High There!](http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0076/0076_01.asp)” we see a vague face through the light. So Chick stole “Boom Boom” Washington’s catch phrase? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-just-converted-me-to-christianity-or-not/529048/51 "2010-02-16T05:54:54Z")
I would love to see a meeting between Jack Chick and Fred Phelps. No idea what would happen, but I bet it would be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Bright\_Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cdc98d/32.png) [@Bright\_Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bright_Life)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-just-converted-me-to-christianity-or-not/529048/52 "2010-02-16T15:18:59Z")
It’d be a death match, for sure. There can be only one. ---
**Author:** ![Find\_Friends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@Find\_Friends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Find_Friends)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-just-converted-me-to-christianity-or-not/529048/53 "2010-02-16T15:45:07Z")
> [@user\_hostile](#): > > So Chick stole “Boom Boom” Washington’s catch phrase? 😉 Well, it’s doubtful. _[Welcome Back Kotter](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welcome_back_kotter)_ debuted September 9, 1975 and [the original tract](http://www.monsterwax.com/chickreviews2.html#hi) had a cover date of 1975. Unless the tract was really written in 1974, or within the first eight months of 1975, the connection is not ruled out. Still, “Hi There!” was no doubt a common phrase by then, just not connected with any personage or character (AFAIK). > [@Morgyn](#): > > I would love to see a meeting between Jack Chick and Fred Phelps. No idea what would happen, but I bet it would be interesting. You never know. Jack-Asshat is so crazy that all Phelps would have to do is say something that sounds heretical to him– … and then he would accuse PHELPS of being gay!!! 😛 * * * **Trans Fat Og** , Global Village Idiot Yep, I’m **that** Charter Mermber. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-just-converted-me-to-christianity-or-not/529048/54 "2010-02-16T15:49:41Z")
> [@Trans Fat Og](#): > > Well, it’s doubtful. _[Welcome Back Kotter](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welcome_back_kotter)_ debuted September 9, 1975 and [the original tract](http://www.monsterwax.com/chickreviews2.html#hi) had a cover date of 1975. Unless the tract was really written in 1974, or within the first eight months of 1975, the connection is not ruled out. Still, “Hi There!” was no doubt a common phrase by then, just not connected with any personage or character (AFAIK). Wow. That’s not just stepping on a joke; that’s jumping up and down on it. ---
**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-just-converted-me-to-christianity-or-not/529048/55 "2010-02-16T19:23:47Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Oh, and so does this mean Chick acknowledges that “witches” have power? Oh my God, yes. So do wizards, warlocks, mediums, Satanists, shamans, and even Harry Potter-wannabe children reading out of books of “magik spells”. In Chick World, it’s incredibly easy to tap into Satanic power and harm persons other than evangelical Christians. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-just-converted-me-to-christianity-or-not/529048/56 "2010-02-16T19:29:50Z")
All this time I thought only God had super powers, but according to Chick, anyone can get them from playing video games or reading books. What book do I have to read to gain teleportation powers? ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-just-converted-me-to-christianity-or-not/529048/57 "2010-02-16T19:56:15Z")
“_What?_ Save that monster? Isn’t that _crazy_?” And I want a gun that goes “Blam! Blam!” ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-just-converted-me-to-christianity-or-not/529048/58 "2010-02-16T20:15:15Z")
For angels portrayed as warriors watch The Prophecy (with Christopher Walken), or certain episodes of The X Files and Millenium. CS Lewis was upset with the cuddly depictions of angels in contemporary art. 'In the Bible, angels are terrifying and awesome figures who must say “Be not afraid.”. In contemporary art, angels are chubby babies and matronly aunts who say “There, there.”. Back To The OP Oh what was that Tommy Lee Jones movie? He’s an indian and his granddaughter is abducted by a gang that includes an evil medicine man? That’s what this tract reminded me of. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-just-converted-me-to-christianity-or-not/529048/59 "2010-02-16T20:54:37Z")
What’s with the attack on Native American shamanism? Is there a rising tide of interest in indigenous religions I should be aware of? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-just-converted-me-to-christianity-or-not/529048/60 "2010-02-17T01:11:31Z")
> [@pravnik](#): > > If that one woman had a shotgun and was perfectly willing to murder someone in cold blood with it in broad daylight, why did they bother screwing around with Crazy Wolf in the first place? Or, if you can kill someone with corpse powder, why bother summoning half-assed demons who will turn on you when they screw up? “More chicken, Mr. Wolf?” Great stuff!! note: for truly effective corpse powder, you need more than extremities. Think sweetbreads. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-just-converted-me-to-christianity-or-not/529048.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-chick-just-converted-me-to-christianity-or-not/529048.md?page=4)