# Jackals of the Dope, I pit you! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 11, 2007, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708 "2007-04-11T22:11:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/241 "2007-04-13T05:45:51Z")
**QG** , you are a fucking idiot who doesn’t seem to understand the Pit at all, but you are good for mild vitriol. I’d rather give you shit than go kick puppies. ---
**Author:** ![Brandon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f08c70/32.png) [@Brandon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brandon)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/242 "2007-04-13T05:49:55Z")
[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster] Because it’s not ‘the Pit’ that ‘bothers me so much’. Which has been explained by not only me but several others. More than once. [/QUOTE] Bullshit. Basically every post you’ve made in this thread (other than nonsense where you’re trying to find anyone to ally yourself with) has been about someone posting something mean in the Pit. Obviously it is the Pit that’s bothering you. Fuck, almost all of your posts that I’ve seen on this Board are full of insipid bullshit; but now that I found you posting in the Pit I can say so. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/243 "2007-04-13T06:02:13Z")
I like **QG**. She’s spirited, like they always say of horses in movies I’ve seen but couldn’t name if pressed. She’s got heart— possibly even an enlarged heart— that bulges voluptuously and may occasionally scandalously slip its restraints altogether. Probably should participate in fewer self-immolations, for now. There’s always time later, after you’ve honed your axe a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/244 "2007-04-13T06:06:00Z")
[QUOTE=Klaatu] **QG** , you are a fucking idiot who doesn’t seem to understand the Pit at all, but you are good for mild vitriol. I’d rather give you shit than go kick puppies. [/QUOTE] If it means puppies are saved, shit away. Shall I send you some ex-lax to help? 'Cause I guess if you’re full of it it has to come out sometime. ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/245 "2007-04-13T06:07:03Z")
But she has no ax to hone, just an ax to grind. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/246 "2007-04-13T06:09:12Z")
What is the big fucking problem with **Quiddity**? So she became apalled at the behavior of certain posters here in the Pit. Fig bucking deal; so did I! While she and I are at almost opposite poles on everything – and there have been times I thought she was an insufferable know-it-all and told her so – I’ve nevertheless developed a grudging respect for her. She’s smart as hell (with a tip of the hat to **Excalibre** 😃 ), intellectually industrious (two words you’re not likely to find in such conjunction anywhere else), strives to inform herself on a wide variety of subjects, and in many non-Pit threads she is quick to offer helpful information whenever she can. And in regard to the Pit, she has shown herself to posess a humanitarian aspect that I find admirable. Frankly, I’m at a total loss to understand just what the hell has gotten all your panties in such a bunch. I don’t recall any post by her demanding that the nature of the Pit and/or its posters be changed. I don’t recall any demands (or even expressed wishes) that anything change other than that she thought people shouldn’t post things that are intended to be personally hateful and/or hurtful…pretty much the same things I’ve said. When we say people ‘shouldn’t’ do this or that, we don’t mean (and forgive me for putting words in your mouth if I’m wrong here) they should be prohibited by board policy from doing them; we mean they shouldn’t do it because we feel it’s morally wrong and that by giving voice to this belief, perhaps people will examine more closely the things they say and maybe decide that the damage they might do outweighs whatever it is they think they accomplish with their vicious and/or hurtful behavior. Perhaps another reason why she’s coming in for so much grief now (and why I’m somewhat sympathetic to her), is that she – like your truly, I’m afraid 😛 – tends to state her opinions in a forceful and declarative manner which makes it look like she considers her statements to be fact rather than opinion. Still, in spite of my own annoyance with her from time to time, I regard her as a valuable addition to this board and I hope that she will continue to post vigorously and in whatever way she wishes for as long as she wishes, even though I know we will likely lock horns more often than not. Cheers, **Quiddity**! Don’t let the bastards get ya down. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/247 "2007-04-13T06:12:16Z")
Fucking christ, insipid is the word. You nailed it **Brandon** \>shakes head in bewilderment. ---
**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/248 "2007-04-13T06:21:08Z")
**Starving Artist** Thank you for your kind words. We may never agree on politics, but that you, too, stood up to say that cruelty is neither enjoyable nor reasonable has given me new respect for you. It distresses me to see people defending inhumanity. But then folks like yourself will come along and castigate people for their excesses in that regard and remind me that the world’s not filled with jackals - we just tend to stumble over a pack every now and then. My suspicion is that, were I not female, the vitriol flung at me would not be quite as fiery. In fact, a couple times when people on boards hadn’t yet realized I was female, I got quite a different reception. Which is ‘interesting’ in all sorts of ways. I salute you for taking the first step in front of the ravening herd and appreciate that you haven’t abandoned ship in the storm and that you stepped up here. And now I’ll go have my hot choc and head off to sleep while some folk sacrifice some blood pressure points to take another few shots, hoping one will hit. Ah. Life in the pit 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/249 "2007-04-13T06:21:36Z")
Quoth **Starving Artist** : “I don’t recall any post by her demanding that the nature of the Pit and/or its posters be changed. I don’t recall any demands (or even expressed wishes) that anything change other than that she thought people shouldn’t post things that are intended to be personally hateful and/or hurtful…pretty much the same things I’ve said.” Snort! You can fuck off too **SA**! So now you are **QG** ’s bitch? eta attribute quote ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/250 "2007-04-13T06:23:07Z")
Well, at least its not the liberals fault anymore… ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/251 "2007-04-13T06:33:21Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] Well, at least its not the liberals fault anymore… [/QUOTE] Aw, c’mon, man, don’t drag him into yet another Pit-tussle; hasn’t he been good lately? ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/252 "2007-04-13T06:37:27Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] Well, at least its not the liberals fault anymore… [/QUOTE] It is the liberals fault. Special interest groups here in the Pit, wanting a “nicer Pit”. People wanting big government here in the Pit, trying to take away our right of unlimited vitriol. Why, next they will want to ban “assault flaming” chipping away at our rights. Damn liberals. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/253 "2007-04-13T06:44:48Z")
Sleep well, fair **Quiddity** , and dream the dreams of the righteous. 😉 And on preview, where’d you get an idea like that, **luci**? (And a tip of the hat with thanks to my old friend, **ETF**. I’m always glad to please you even if it happens only rarely. 🙂 But never fear; I shan’t be stirring up anything more tonight. A wee glass of _Wild Turkey 101_ (straight up no less…what a he-man am I) and a John Grisham novel await to lull me to blissful sleep.) 'Night all. ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/254 "2007-04-13T06:49:45Z")
Well, I can’t give you too much shit for Wild Turkey and Grisham. Nice combination for a night cap ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/255 "2007-04-13T06:50:56Z")
How can you dislike **Quiddity** , I mean seriously! Just saying the name brings a smile to the face. Quuuiiidddiiittty GLOOOOMFUSTAH! Oooooh yeah baby. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/256 "2007-04-13T06:53:57Z")
[QUOTE=Klaatu] Well, I can’t give you too much shit for Wild Turkey and Grisham. Nice combination for a night cap [/QUOTE] Thanks. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/257 "2007-04-13T06:56:41Z")
[QUOTE=Starving Artist] What is the big fucking problem with **Quiddity**? [/quote] She’s a condescending, hypocritical bitch who doesn’t understand how the Dope works. How’s that for ya? > [@](#): > > So she became apalled at the behavior of certain posters here in the Pit. Fig bucking deal; so did I! Cite who you mean by the “certain posters” or shut the fuck up. Your endorsement of her doesn’t lift her up, it just makes you look like a twat too. > [@](#): > > And in regard to the Pit, she has shown herself to posess a humanitarian aspect that I find admirable. Unless the person getting the shit kicked out of him in the Pit has annoyed her, in which case she’s happy to ignore his plight, or defend the bully who started with him. Like I said, hypocrite, not humanitarian. > [@](#): > > I don’t recall any post by her demanding that the nature of the Pit and/or its posters be changed. There’s a whole thread full of her moralizing about the Pit. I cited a post from it earlier in this thread. Give it a read and then come back here and assert this with a straight face. > [@](#): > > I don’t recall any demands (or even expressed wishes) that anything change other than that she thought people shouldn’t post things that are intended to be personally hateful and/or hurtful… Damn near everything in the Pit is hateful and/or hurtful to someone, in some way. Why don’t we just pack this place up and set up a lemonade stand, with kittens and flowers and daisies instead? > [@](#): > > we mean they shouldn’t do it because we feel it’s morally wrong and that by giving voice to this belief, perhaps people will examine more closely the things they say and maybe decide that the damage they might do outweighs whatever it is they think they accomplish with their vicious and/or hurtful behavior. Give an example of a post that’s morally wrong that hasn’t been openly censured by pretty much everyone already. Yes, a line was crossed in certain posts of Miz Grand’s thread, where someone was threatened IRL. This has been hashed over ad nauseum already. What exactly are you still on about? Will you please say something of substance instead of self-aggrandizing puffery? > [@](#): > > Perhaps another reason why she’s coming in for so much grief now (and why I’m somewhat sympathetic to her), is that she – like your truly, I’m afraid 😛 – tends to state her opinions in a forceful and declarative manner which makes it look like she considers her statements to be fact rather than opinion. No, it’s because she’s a sanctimonious schoolmarm. And you’re turning into one too. With nothing of substance to back it up. Why won’t you post some meaningful examples of what you find so offensive that deserves condemnation that hasn’t already been condemned to death? And what purpose your continued trumpeting of you condemnation serves other than making you feel like you’re better than some unspecified group of bad, mean, bastardly jackals? BTW, I’ve given up on expecting an answer of substance on anything from Quiddity Glomfuster. She never answers direct questions that would force her to put her money where her mouth is. Starving Artist, are you that much of a blowhard too, or can you have a meaningful discussion where you offer evidence and cites to back up your argument? We’ll see. ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/258 "2007-04-13T07:01:06Z")
The whole fucking point is that you can “like” somebody and still give them shit. I cannot actually like or dislike a person based on their anonymous persona on the board. I don’t know them. I can get pissed at their posts, but might really enjoy having a beer with them. (I don’t know about you though, with the girly drink thing 😉 .) That’s why this whole “don’t be so mean thing” baffles me. It’s just give and take on a board. I guess some people take it way more serious than others. ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/259 "2007-04-13T07:14:35Z")
I will say that sometimes posters here irritate the living shit out of me, like QG sometimes, but she seems to think those of us who fling shit are somehow psychotic fucks who always need to “calm down”. I don’t even think about this board unless I am actually having a “session” here. QG, I think you take the Pit way more seriously than we do. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/260 "2007-04-13T07:16:24Z")
[QUOTE=Klaatu] (I don’t know about you though, with the girly drink thing 😉 [/QUOTE] Hey dont knock it 'til you tried it 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708.md?page=14)