# Jackals of the Dope, I pit you! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 11, 2007, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708 "2007-04-11T22:11:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/321 "2007-04-13T23:58:10Z")
[QUOTE=stretch] In the RSSGrand thread, people were expressing their belief that her behavior was “outrageous, disgusting and exessively hurtful and expressed that observation pretty much out of reflex.” They don’t get a pass, but you do. Nice double standard there, **SA**. [/QUOTE] I could see that response the second I read **SA** ’s response. It’s one of the reasons I’m not a Christian. Don’t judge those who are judging those who are judging those. . . . Only the first person judging and those too hypocritical to notice win that race. ---
**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2007, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/322 "2007-04-14T00:32:12Z")
[QUOTE=TokyoPlayer] Let’s see. It’s in bad taste to single people out, because it would be tacky. But, it’s good taste to refer to posters of a specific thread as “Shit-monkeys, judgmental turd burglars, digusting digital imps” among others mangled insults [/quote] That wasn’t me and I suggested that Auto had also gone over the top. He himself has admitted as much. You might wish to get with the program. ---
**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2007, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/323 "2007-04-14T00:35:36Z")
[QUOTE=Starving Artist] And **Quiddity** , I hate to say this but I’m afraid you’re just going to have to adopt the attitude of “fuck the fuckin’ fuckers” and let your language follow suit. To attempt to take the high road around here is largely an exercise in futility. Sometimes you just have to get down in the gutter with them to get 'em to take you seriously. [/QUOTE] My attitude is, essentially, ‘there’s no reason to care about the opinions of strangers’. Which translates to what you suggest 😃 As for language, no, sorry. That was ok when I was a teenager and thought it fun to shock the grownups. I grew up. If some people aren’t capable of comprehending language that’s not comprised of obscenities, well, I’m sorry their knuckles are all scraped up and stuff, but it’s no skin off mine 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2007, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/324 "2007-04-14T00:39:46Z")
[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster] My attitude is, essentially, ‘there’s no reason to care about the opinions of strangers’. Which translates to what you suggest 😃 [/quote] Then why do you care if we’re jackals? Why would MizGrand care? Why would a thread on a messsage board be considered appalling or morally outrageous? You can’t have it both ways. Just another example of you being full of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2007, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/325 "2007-04-14T00:41:20Z")
[QUOTE=stretch] Why is it okay for you to hurt someone’s feelings, but others should be careful of what they post? In the RSSGrand thread, people were expressing their belief that her behavior was “outrageous, disgusting and exessively hurtful and expressed that observation pretty much out of reflex.” They don’t get a pass, but you do. Nice double standard there, **SA**. [/QUOTE] Now you’re just being silly. I’ve made no one feel anything close to the to the type of abuse flung at MizGrand those other threads. Outrageous, disgusting and hurtful is mild compared to what she was subjected to. I really thought better of you than this. Don’t know why really, but I did. > [@Rubystreak](#): > > Now you’re calling me a jackal. No, I said you were likely sympatico with them. To recall the schoolyard bully analogy, there’s a difference between the bully and the hangers on. > [@Rubystreak](#): > > And now I will tell you to soundly go fuck yourself, since I think you’re completely full of shit. It’s becoming increasingly obvious why **Equipoise** likes you. > [@Heffalump and Roo](#): > > Don’t judge those who are judging those who are judging those. . . . In one way or another, everyone judges other people and things. It’s an unavoidable part of life, **Heffalump**. ---
**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2007, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/326 "2007-04-14T00:41:55Z")
[QUOTE=Rubystreak] I pointed out that, in fact, Liberal was waaaaaaay over the top in his treatment of PRR thread that led to [PRR’s $500 exit from the board,](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=407718) [/quote] You say ‘pointed out’ as though you were correct in your assessment. You were not. > [@](#): > > It would have been fine, but then she admitted that she hadn’t read any of the threads in question but [PRR bugged her](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8308469&postcount=183), so therefore he was not entitled to her humanitarian aid, nor did she go back and the read the threads in question to see if her defense of Liberal was wrong-headed. You are completely incorrect, but that’s to be expected from one with serious comprehension problems. > [@](#): > > shows amply that YOU DON’T HAVE ANY. This is the Dope. If you can’t support your claim, you’ve lost the argument. See, I don’t respond to goading. Try as you might, all this sturm und drang aimed at trying to shame/insult/whatever me into doing your bidding will continue to fail utterly simply because I have stated my reasons for not doing what you wish. If you’re going to burst a vein because I don’t bow to your desires, oh well. ---
**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2007, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/327 "2007-04-14T00:44:35Z")
[QUOTE=Starving Artist] If you think defending someone in a thread equals sycophancy, I suggest you research the meaning of the word. But be that as it may, you’re not going to get anywhere with that approach anyway. I defended Liberal in a thread once and got tagged as sucking up to him and kissing his ass and I roundly debunked the accusation. If you’d like to be a little more specific about just whose ass I’m kissing here and why you think I’d want to, I’d be happy to debunk yours as well. [/QUOTE] It’s just the Goad Game, SA. People want you to react, so they’ll keep poking and poking, hoping to find a soft spot. Screw 'em. ---
**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2007, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/328 "2007-04-14T00:47:16Z")
[QUOTE=Rubystreak] There were some over the top posts, and those have been duly noted, chastised, and several of the people who did it have apologized. [/quote] So, since you admit it, clearly you are well able to distinguish that there were indeed such posts and which they were. I knew you could do it if you just tried a little bit. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2007, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/329 "2007-04-14T00:47:27Z")
Starving Artist, you are just embarrassing yourself now. You said you were going away. Why don’t you? [QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster] You say ‘pointed out’ as though you were correct in your assessment. You were not. [/quote] Yes I was. See how productive that is? > [@](#): > > You are completely incorrect, but that’s to be expected from one with serious comprehension problems. Oh, why are you so meeeeeeeeeeeeean?!? :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > See, I don’t respond to goading. Try as you might, all this sturm und drang aimed at trying to shame/insult/whatever me into doing your bidding will continue to fail utterly simply because I have stated my reasons for not doing what you wish. If you’re going to burst a vein because I don’t bow to your desires, oh well. Yes, you do have quite a history of not offering cites when you blather on about shit. You’ve been called on it before, but you never learn. If you make accusations, you need to back them up with evidence. If you can’t, you’re just talking a lot of crap without any productive goal but self-aggrandizement. You can call it goading if it makes you feel better about having no evidence to support your assertions, but you are still a mealy-mouthed, high-handed bitch who talks the talk and can’t walk the walk. Try as you might to make it all about me and what a villain I am, you’re the one making pointless accusations. CITE or shut up. That’s the Dope rule. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2007, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/330 "2007-04-14T00:50:19Z")
[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster] So, since you admit it, clearly you are well able to distinguish that there were indeed such posts and which they were. I knew you could do it if you just tried a little bit. [/QUOTE] If the wrongs have already been acknowledged, why do you need to go on and on about it? And I don’t see a lynch mob or a pack of jackals, so let’s not pretend I agree with you. I don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2007, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/331 "2007-04-14T00:50:26Z")
[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster] My attitude is, essentially, ‘there’s no reason to care about the opinions of strangers’. Which translates to what you suggest 😃 As for language, no, sorry. That was ok when I was a teenager and thought it fun to shock the grownups. I grew up. If some people aren’t capable of comprehending language that’s not comprised of obscenities, well, I’m sorry their knuckles are all scraped up and stuff, but it’s no skin off mine 😉 [/QUOTE] You know, I’ve been thinking today about what you said regarding your being a woman and your suspicions that that is perhaps part of the reason for the (IMO) unusual amount of vitriol that you’re being subjected to. I think back to some of the names you’ve been called, “schoolmarm” and “miss priss”(or something similar), and I’ve come to the conclusion that you may well be right. The funny thing is, most of these insults, IIRC, are coming from other women. Go figure, huh? ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2007, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/332 "2007-04-14T00:52:18Z")
[QUOTE=Starving Artist] You know, I’ve been thinking today about what you said regarding your being a woman and your suspicions that that is perhaps part of the reason for the (IMO) unusual amount of vitriol that you’re being subjected to. I think back to some of the names you’ve been called, “schoolmarm” and “miss priss”(or something similar), and I’ve come to the conclusion that you may well be right. The funny thing is, most of these insults, IIRC, are coming from other women. Go figure, huh? [/QUOTE] Strawman. Also a vicious lie. You are quite a hypocrite, aren’t you? And will say ANYTHING to take attention away from the fact that your argument has no substance. Just let it go already. ---
**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2007, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/333 "2007-04-14T00:53:46Z")
[QUOTE=Rubystreak] Then why do you care if we’re jackals? [/quote] I don’t care about what you think **of me**. Don’t be deliberately obtuse. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2007, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/334 "2007-04-14T00:58:21Z")
[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster] I don’t care about what you think **of me**. Don’t be deliberately obtuse. [/QUOTE] Sticks and stones may break my bones, but you’re still a complete jerk with no point to make. See how much fun it is to insult people in the Pit? I knew you’d finally give in and love the bomb. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2007, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/335 "2007-04-14T00:58:56Z")
[QUOTE=Starving Artist] > [@Heffalump and Roo](#): > > Don’t judge those who are judging those who are judging those. . . . In one way or another, everyone judges other people and things. It’s an unavoidable part of life, **Heffalump**. [/QUOTE] So here’s my story. Which is unrelated to this thread. Hmm, well maybe not as much as I thought. I’m sitting with some Christians. I tell them that one of the reasons I have a problem with Christianity is that some Christians that I know are committing what I consider to be fraud and using God as their excuse. I see that as hypocrisy. Their answer? Well, you’re being hypocritical too because you’re judging their fraud and people shouldn’t judge. (Actually, they did the whole beam/mote thing but that just added to the irritation.) But here’s the thing. I’m judging to evaluate the basis for my beliefs, so my judging is not condemnation of the people but judging how the action affects my relationship to those I think are committing the fraud and my beliefs about the religion. ---
**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2007, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/336 "2007-04-14T00:59:57Z")
[QUOTE=Starving Artist] I think back to some of the names you’ve been called, “schoolmarm” and “miss priss”(or something similar), and I’ve come to the conclusion that you may well be right. The funny thing is, most of these insults, IIRC, are coming from other women. Go figure, huh? [/QUOTE] It was a sad observation that I made long ago that the people who can be the most vicious are those of my own gender. Both genders do very well at ‘mean’, but the art of using a very thin, sharp knife to eviscerate someone tends to be mastered by people of the female persuasion. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2007, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/337 "2007-04-14T01:00:32Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] We’ve already had the cute kitties. Don’t press yer luck with the fuzzy bunnies. [/QUOTE] [Too late!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE9OXATfF0o)😛 ---
**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2007, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/338 "2007-04-14T01:01:12Z")
[QUOTE=Rubystreak] Sticks and stones may break my bones, but you’re still a complete jerk with no point to make. See how much fun it is to insult people in the Pit? I knew you’d finally give in and love the bomb. [/QUOTE] Yet again, I never said it was bad to insult people in the Pit. But I’m speaking to the challenged, because you don’t understand the concept of degree. At. All. ---
**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2007, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/339 "2007-04-14T01:06:59Z")
[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy] [Too late!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE9OXATfF0o)😛 [/QUOTE] OK, I’m in love with Mattie. What a smart lil’ fuzzball. And on that happy note, I’m off to eat quesadillas. Ruby, go have some chocolate or something. It’s good for PMS. _::d&r::_ ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2007, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/340 "2007-04-14T01:07:55Z")
[QUOTE=Rubystreak] Starving Artist, you are just embarrassing yourself now. You said you were going away. Why don’t you? [/quote] Because I tend to be more mannerly than those such as yourself, and so it seems rude not to answer when someone speaks to me, even if that person is being rude themselves. [QUOTE=Rubystreak] CITE or shut up. That’s the Dope rule. [/QUOTE] I wouldn’t know about that. It seems to me that for a cite to legitimately be a cite, it should, you know, _prove something_. I’m rarely asked for cites that are really anything more than examples rather than proof. I made a post on this subject once asking for clarification and got no response, so unless I’m instructed by a mod that I have to post some kind of cite whenever one is demanded, I fully intend to ignore demands for non-probative cites. I doubt that this will happen since to post some sort of cite just to be doing so would be counter-productive and not really in keeping with the way things are done around here, and furthermore I believe that if ‘cites’ are not officially expected to be probative, they be referred to more accurately by calling them ‘examples’. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708.md?page=18)