# Jackals of the Dope, I pit you!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 11, 2007, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708 "2007-04-11T22:11:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/81 "2007-04-12T02:38:00Z")

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[QUOTE=Caridwen]  
I don’t agree with **Starving Artist** regarding politics, but he’s far from ignorant and he does have a point.  
[/quote]  
Well, we’ll just have to agree to differ on that issue.

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**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/82 "2007-04-12T02:39:57Z")

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**Autolycus** and **Quiddity Glomfuster** sitting in a tree,  
Pit nannies Pit nannies is what they wanna be.

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**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/83 "2007-04-12T02:53:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
I am just not buying that the worst of human behaviour ought be tolerated just because it’s the Pit.  
[/QUOTE]  
You’re kidding right; “The worst of human behaviour” :dubious:

And now we have to be “witty” and “creative” too? I think you do not understand what forum you are in grasshopper.

sinjin

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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/84 "2007-04-12T02:57:01Z")

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[QUOTE=Klaatu]  
**Autolycus** and **Quiddity Glomfuster** sitting in a tree,  
Pit nannies Pit nannies is what they wanna be.  
[/QUOTE]

K, that was funny.

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/85 "2007-04-12T03:01:12Z")

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**QUIDDITY GLOMFUSTER**!

Sorry, I had to get that out of my system 🙂

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/86 "2007-04-12T03:50:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Qadgop the Mercotan]

[sub]Actually she said “when your dad was little he fell off the roof, but landed in a pile of cow poop, so it wasn’t so bad”.[/sub]  
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I have no dog in the fight here, but I _have_ to ask if that’s what she actually said now.

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**Author:** ![capybara](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/capybara/32/202_2.png) [@capybara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capybara)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/87 "2007-04-12T04:07:55Z")

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By the way, there are about a kabillion other members of the board who have not given a damn about this current pile of threads (either largely unaware or totally apathetic to the drama), who have been posting instead about, oh, cabinetry and Mozart and gardening and red shift and the female orgasm and tarantulas and such. 30 individuals on this current obsession doesn’t completely define the character of this board, any more than the 15 participants on either side of the great SDMB atheist wars do. A limited number of jackals, and I suspect the jackals du jour vary in rotation. Just for, you know, perspective.

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**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/88 "2007-04-12T04:12:08Z")

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[QUOTE=alice\_in\_wonderland]  
K, that was funny.  
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Really, it maybe was. In grade 3.

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**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/89 "2007-04-12T04:15:09Z")

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Oh, and

[QUOTE=capybara]  
By the way, there are about a kabillion other members  
[/QUOTE]

Cite? 😃😛

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/90 "2007-04-12T04:18:43Z")

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**Poly** , I apologize. I just spent the better part of an hour composing a point by point response to your thoughtful and eloquently worded post, and danged if my computer/browser/whatever didn’t freeze just as I was working on the final paragraph. I couldn’t copy, couldn’t paste, couldn’t capture a screen shot, nothin’. I had to restart my computer and now it’s too late and I’m too tired to try to reconstruct it. Let me just say that many of your points are well taken and that I agree very much with you in the main. However, I would say that it’s more difficult to forgive (although certainly possible) when posters are being deliberately and viciously hurtful on a level aimed at another poster’s psyche. Insults and criticisms of this type can truly traumatize someone and have negative effects on their lives that continue to reverberate long after thread and/or poster in question has been long forgotten.

**Qadgop** , I appreciate what you’re saying about troubled people needing to confront and deal with the consequences of their actions. What I’m objecting to is vile, hurtful insults, and wishes being expressed to the effect of other posters wanting to see that person’s life and self-esteem virtually destroyed, i.e., the “I hope your husband finds out, you lose your job and your kids, that you become the laughingstock of your town and that you’ll be banished from humanity for all time, you lazy, conniving, cheating worthless, rotten, no-good, lying two-faced bitch!” type of post, which was plentiful in the other two threads.

And **Caridwen** , thank you very much for your kind words and for taking my words in the spirit in which they were intended. 🙂

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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/91 "2007-04-12T04:19:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
Really, it maybe was. In grade 3.  
[/QUOTE]

I’m totally picturing you in a scraped back bun, glasses down on your nose, in a brown flowered Laura Ashley dress looking down your nose, waggling your finger right now.

Kind of like [this](http://iloveduckies.com/images/actionfigures/librarian-lg.jpg), only, you know, nastier, and less relaxed.

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**Author:** ![MoodIndigo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@MoodIndigo1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoodIndigo1)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/92 "2007-04-12T04:24:40Z")

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This OP gave the impression of more bluster than power. It doesn’t feel sincere.

Pit thread : 2/10  
Talent shown at attention whore: 8/10

As for the original cause of the OP’s “anger”-- I’m sorry I didn’t have the time or energy to add to the hunt. Sorry, other jackals, I’ll try to contribute next time.

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**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/93 "2007-04-12T04:25:44Z")

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[QUOTE=alice\_in\_wonderland]  
I’m totally picturing you in a scraped back bun, glasses down on your nose, in a brown flowered Laura Ashley dress looking down your nose, waggling your finger right now.

Kind of like [this](http://iloveduckies.com/images/actionfigures/librarian-lg.jpg), only, you know, nastier, and less relaxed.  
[/QUOTE]

Note she’s smiling. Broadly. 😛 And, no, I look more like :rolleyes: at the moment.  
And I look like crap in brown. 😛

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/94 "2007-04-12T04:27:52Z")

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[QUOTE=capybara]  
By the way, there are about a kabillion other members of the board who have not given a damn about this current pile of threads (either largely unaware or totally apathetic to the drama), who have been posting instead about, oh, cabinetry and Mozart and gardening and red shift and the female orgasm and tarantulas and such. 30 individuals on this current obsession doesn’t completely define the character of this board, any more than the 15 participants on either side of the great SDMB atheist wars do. A limited number of jackals, and I suspect the jackals du jour vary in rotation. Just for, you know, perspective.  
[/QUOTE]  
You are quite right, of course. However, those people won’t see the generalizations the OP and I are so carelessly flinging about so it’s pretty much a wash wouldn’t you say. 😃

But kidding aside, you are quite right. I tend to spend most of my time in the Pit and the people who post there have more or less come to represent the Dope to me. It’s easy to lose sight of that fact and to lose perspective along with it. Thank you for the splash of cold water in the face. I needed it. 🙂

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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/95 "2007-04-12T04:29:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
Note she’s smiling. Broadly. 😛 And, no, I look more like :rolleyes: at the moment.  
And I look like crap in brown. 😛  
[/QUOTE]

Well, I think your identity as “School Marm of the Pit” is now firmly entrenched. May I have a hall pass please? I want to go tell someone to felch a goat, and call them a fuckwit.

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**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/96 "2007-04-12T04:32:53Z")

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Well, you would look better in brown if you weren’t always shitting on yourself in your zeal to make the Pit “A Better Place.”

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**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/97 "2007-04-12T04:34:02Z")

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[QUOTE=alice\_in\_wonderland]  
Well, I think your identity as “School Marm of the Pit” is now firmly entrenched. May I have a hall pass please? I want to go tell someone to felch a goat, and call them a fuckwit.  
[/QUOTE]

Go right ahead, and I’ll probably laugh my ass off.

I wish people were capable of understanding degrees. Some pittings go way, way, waaaayyyyyyyy over the top. Doesn’t mean all do. Doesn’t mean I don’t enjoy a well-written Pitting. But the narsty vicious ones are, IMHO, unnecessary.

But I guess some people just can’t conceive of any area between ‘black’ and ‘white’.

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**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/98 "2007-04-12T04:35:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Klaatu]  
Well, you would look better in brown if you weren’t always shitting on yourself in your zeal to make the Pit “A Better Place.”  
[/QUOTE]

That didn’t make any sense 😃 But thanks for playing. 'Course you’re the guy singing the song the little kiddles in kindygarten sing, after all.

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**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/99 "2007-04-12T04:39:41Z")

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[QUOTE=alice\_in\_wonderland]  
Well, I think your identity as “School Marm of the Pit” is now firmly entrenched. May I have a hall pass please? I want to go tell someone to felch a goat, and call them a fuckwit.  
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Now you have just bought yourself a ticket to join the rest of us in detention on Saturday. I hope you are ashamed of yourself.

Got a cigarette? I have some whiskey. Just don’t tell Mom.

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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackals-of-the-dope-i-pit-you/399708/100 "2007-04-12T04:41:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]

But I guess some people just can’t conceive of any area between ‘black’ and ‘white’.  
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I think some of us can’t conceive of why you think you’re the arbiter of which pittings go way over the top, being that

A) you’re pretty new  
B) you’re not a mod of any description  
C) people who’ve been her much longer than you have indicated that you’re incorrect.

But whatever. Carry on - if you enjoying being the hall monitor, who are we to criticize.

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