# Jack's Back in Black (GASP!)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jacks-back-in-black-gasp/167243>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 8, 2003, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jacks-back-in-black-gasp/167243 "2003-04-08T05:09:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jacks-back-in-black-gasp/167243/21 "2003-04-08T15:19:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by vanilla \*  
> \*\*I didn’t check out one of the Bible verses, but it Does say DO not call any man your Father.

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Well…not [quite](http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/a/faq-cc.html#q25)

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> \*\*  
> I was also taught that you can get to Heaven by being good enough, faith wasn’t even mentioned.

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That’s not the teaching of the church. See [here](http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/a/faq-cc.html#q13)

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> \*\*  
> After I became a christian, I leanred that presits cannot forgive your sins.  
> I was taught that in Catholic Church.

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Well that’s not Catholic teaching. You had a poorly informed teacher if he/she actually said that. See [here](http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/a/faq-cc.html#q18)

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> \*\*  
> And that saying repetitive prayers would make up for my sins.  
> Wrong also. \*\*

Acts of contrition do not “make up” for sins. So again…you either had a poorly informed teacher, or didn’t understand what he/she was trying to teach.

See [here](http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/a/faq-cc.html) for an overview of the “glaring faults” that you outlined.

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jacks-back-in-black-gasp/167243/22 "2003-04-08T15:27:32Z")

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Packers suck

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**Author:** ![Aguecheek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@Aguecheek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aguecheek)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jacks-back-in-black-gasp/167243/23 "2003-04-08T15:30:05Z")

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Now…Am I the only one who thinks that Jack’s Father Damien looks suspiciously like the Father Damien from _The Exorcist_? I’m looking for a picture right now.

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**Author:** ![Aguecheek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@Aguecheek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aguecheek)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jacks-back-in-black-gasp/167243/24 "2003-04-08T15:31:35Z")

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Maybe [this](http://theexorcist.warnerbros.com/img/miller.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Max\_Carnage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/max_carnage/32/12775_2.png) [@Max\_Carnage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Carnage)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jacks-back-in-black-gasp/167243/25 "2003-04-08T15:32:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by GMRyujin \*  
> \*\*IANJC, but I imagine … \*\*

I just wanted to say that THAT is the funniest use of “IANA…” I’ve seen on the board 🙂

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**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jacks-back-in-black-gasp/167243/26 "2003-04-08T15:42:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \*  
> \*\*Packers suck \*\*

Some statements are **not** forgivable in the eyes of God.

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**Author:** ![Padeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@Padeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Padeye)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jacks-back-in-black-gasp/167243/27 "2003-04-08T15:43:33Z")

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Now now people, we aren’t here to bash each other’s religions. Heck even I have issues with R.C. teachings (and FWIW I had just over a year of catechism as a lad) but there is a vast gulf between that and Jack’s raging venom.

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**Author:** ![jovan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/0ea827/32.png) [@jovan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jovan)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jacks-back-in-black-gasp/167243/28 "2003-04-08T15:51:26Z")

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> \*Originally posted by vanilla \*  
> \*\*Like I said, I was a young one(grade school) while in that church.
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> But its true, the repentance and sorrow for sinning is all you need( plus No Tea!)  
> 😉 \*\*

To be fair to **vanilla** , I was raised in a catholic environment and I have to say that unfortunately, in my experience, many priests do a piss-poor job at explaining these sorts of things to kids.

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**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jacks-back-in-black-gasp/167243/29 "2003-04-08T15:57:02Z")

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Isis, Horus and Seb???

Seb??  
i thought the Egyptian divine family was Isis, Osiris and Horus.

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**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jacks-back-in-black-gasp/167243/30 "2003-04-08T16:07:47Z")

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Like the holy trinity being like a shamrock… Small Green and split three ways"

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jacks-back-in-black-gasp/167243/31 "2003-04-08T16:10:10Z")

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I guess a certain poster whom I won’t name asked Jack for more affirmation for her Catholic-bashing.

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**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jacks-back-in-black-gasp/167243/32 "2003-04-08T16:18:53Z")

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“ **Warning!** Never add to, or take away from, God’s words!”

I won’t risk either. _Slides bible under wobbly chair_

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**Author:** ![KarmaComa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e36b37/32.png) [@KarmaComa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarmaComa)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jacks-back-in-black-gasp/167243/33 "2003-04-08T16:24:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by GMRyujin \*  
> \*\*And on second thought, that can’t be Satan. That’s only one of his goblins. It doesn’t look like Tim Curry at all. \*\*

HAW HAW HAW!

Hey, I think the world needs a HAW HAW HAW smily. Maybe just an alteration of :wally but I’ll have to stick with 😃 😃 😃 for now.

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**Author:** ![Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bad_News_Baboon)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jacks-back-in-black-gasp/167243/34 "2003-04-08T16:41:52Z")

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ok, I have a question.

First off, I admit I didn’t read his whole comic (arg. It’s so hard to follow).  
I was raised catholic and don’t know very much about other religions.

Why is Mary being vilified? Do other Christian religions not believe in Mary?  
I’m confussed.  
-Babs, who apparently is going to hell. I hope if I do, I get to wear a nifty pointed hat.

p.s.  
That picture of Nimrod made me laugh. It reminds me of a cartoon a friend sent me that has a little boy running around with a dildo on his forehead saying “look mommy! I’m a rhino”.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jacks-back-in-black-gasp/167243/35 "2003-04-08T16:49:00Z")

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JC needs to get out more.

Panel 10: Jesus prophesized the coming of the Catholic church. Right, and Notradamus prophesized the coming of Hitler.

Panel 29: What, Nativity scenes, Jesus on the cross, and IHS are strictly Catholic? Yeah, sure, Jack.

There is no rolleyes smiley big enough for the joke that is Jack Chick.

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**Author:** ![Padeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@Padeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Padeye)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jacks-back-in-black-gasp/167243/36 "2003-04-08T16:51:02Z")

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Jack doesn’t vilify Mary but rather his mistaken notion that Mary is worshipped in her own right.

All other Christian denominations believe in Mary but protestants and others part ways on the immaculate conception and Mary staying a virgin after Jesus’ birth. The gospels say Jesus had siblings but leaves out a few key details.

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**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jacks-back-in-black-gasp/167243/37 "2003-04-08T16:54:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Bad News Baboon \*  
> \*\*ok, I have a question.
> 
> First off, I admit I didn’t read his whole comic (arg. It’s so hard to follow).  
> I was raised catholic and don’t know very much about other religions.
> 
> Why is Mary being vilified? Do other Christian religions not believe in Mary?  
> I’m confussed.  
> \*\*

Catholics (as a rule) tend to have a stronger focus on Mary(some Catholics more than others…look up “co-redemtrix”).

There are some folks who think (wrongly) therefore, that Catholics “worship” Mary.

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**Author:** ![Padeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@Padeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Padeye)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jacks-back-in-black-gasp/167243/38 "2003-04-08T16:55:24Z")

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Say, what does IHS stand for? My own RC education was brief and TLL could only remember nuns telling her it was “in his service.”

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**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jacks-back-in-black-gasp/167243/39 "2003-04-08T17:10:59Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Beagle \*  
> \*\*“ **Warning!** Never add to, or take away from, God’s words!”  
> \*\*

_quits writing “booger” in the Bible_

Aww CRAP!

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**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jacks-back-in-black-gasp/167243/40 "2003-04-08T17:11:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Padeye \*  
> \*\*Say, what does IHS stand for? My own RC education was brief and TLL could only remember nuns telling her it was “in his service.” \*\*

See [here](http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07649a.htm)

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