# Jackson Accused Again **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 18, 2005, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-accused-again/317517 "2005-08-18T01:51:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-accused-again/317517/1 "2005-08-18T01:51:03Z")
I reckon this is the best form for this to be in. If not, please move as necessary šŸ˜ƒ Just a few minutes ago I was watching MSNBC, so sorry that I donā€™t have a cite or reference article for this (someone else will find one, Iā€™m sure). A man is claiming that in May of 1984 he was molested by Michael Jackson. His attorney says that the man was so traumatized that he repressed the memory for 20 years, but the last trial brought what happened back to light. Jacksonā€™s attorney came on and said that the Jackson camp has proof that on the days in question Jackson was meeting with President Reagan and Willy Nelson (Iā€™m sure thereā€™s a joke in there somewhere). The manā€™s attorney says he has an affidavit from the limo driver who says Jackson never met with Willy. The host (Rita something) asked the manā€™s attorney what he wants out of this accusation. The attorney said (not a direct quote, but well enough), ā€œWell, in the past Jackson has given multi million dollar settlementsā€¦:::pauses:::ā€¦ but, um, due to his financial situations we wouldnā€™t really be able to collect a settlement and uhā€¦ā€ And the segment ended. Seems to me like the guy is out to get money. Either that or his attorney is a complete idiot. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-accused-again/317517/2 "2005-08-18T01:52:08Z")
Curses! One day I will preview and one day I will learn to type f-o-r-u-m. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-accused-again/317517/3 "2005-08-18T02:07:43Z")
1984? Repressed memories? Lemme guess, Michael Jackson performed some esoteric Satanic ritual on him? ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-accused-again/317517/4 "2005-08-18T02:11:41Z")
Has **any** ā€œrepressedā€ memory ever been proven to be accurate? ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-accused-again/317517/5 "2005-08-18T02:21:46Z")
Repressed memories huh? That is so 1980ā€™s style deathray fraud. This guy managed to turn Michael Jackson from a freak into a genuine victim that deserves all our support. I didnā€™t think it could be done. ---
**Author:** ![SnakesCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@SnakesCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakesCatLady)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-accused-again/317517/6 "2005-08-18T02:27:45Z")
Uh, statute of limitations? ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-accused-again/317517/7 "2005-08-18T02:27:59Z")
[Have a link](http://www.startribune.com/stories/389/5565224.html). > [@](#): > > Bartucci is seeking unspecified monetary compensation from Jackson on a variety of claims such as emotional distress. > > Bartucciā€™s attorney, William A. Pigg, said he will push for a quick trial. > > "My client has been under a great deal of stress,ā€™ā€™ Pigg said. "He has been the victim of character assassination.ā€™ā€™ > > Jacksonā€™s lawyer doubts the case will ever go to trial. There is a one-year statue of limitations from the time Bartucci claims he regained his memory, but Gay said Bartucci allegedly discussed the allegations with his wife in the 1990s. Heh heh heh. ā€œBartucci.ā€ ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-accused-again/317517/8 "2005-08-18T02:34:07Z")
> [@Larry Mudd](#): > > [Have a link](http://www.startribune.com/stories/389/5565224.html).Heh heh heh. ā€œBartucci.ā€ Heh heh heh. A. Pigg. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-accused-again/317517/9 "2005-08-18T02:49:21Z")
That is just a group of people with giggle inducing names (if you are stupid and bored like myself): A. Pigg Gay Bartucci ā€¦Whoaā€¦for once, Jackson ISNā€™T the one we are mocking! ::starts twitching from confusion::: ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-accused-again/317517/10 "2005-08-18T04:50:52Z")
> [@Snakescatlady](#): > > Uh, statute of limitations? Not on civil suits. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-accused-again/317517/11 "2005-08-18T06:20:50Z")
Recoveringā€¦ recoveringā€¦ recoveringā€¦ I WAS MOLESTED BY MICHAEL JACKSON 20 YEARS AGO TOO! It just totally sank inā€” and of course I donā€™t remember it, because itā€™s repressed! (To think that freak would actually hire a private jet to interrupt his tour and come to a farm in middle-of-nowhere Alabama and molest me just makes me wanna add another $8 million to my suit.) Anybody want to make it a class action suit? Iā€™m sure some others have memories they canā€™t remember about Michael Jackson, which just proves how vicious they are. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-accused-again/317517/12 "2005-08-18T06:34:16Z")
It makes no difference. Jackson has been accused twice, and was convicted neither time. Heā€™s untouchable. ---
**Author:** ![Campion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@Campion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Campion)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-accused-again/317517/13 "2005-08-18T06:49:44Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > > [@Snakescatlady](#): > > > > Uh, statute of limitations? > > Not on civil suits. There are statutes of limitation for civil suits, as well as criminal suits. Which is why the ā€œrepressed memoryā€ ā€œit only just came to lightā€ thing is critical. Depending on the jurisdiction, the statute for personal injury (i.e., battery, sexual assault, etc.) is likely one to four years. So if a man alleges he was molested 21 years ago, the statute has run. (Note that some jurisdictions also have a ā€œminorā€™s rule,ā€ namely, that a statute of limitation for an assault on a minor does not begin to run until the minor turns 18.) But bottom line, it sounds to me like the repressed memory is an attempt to do an end run around the statute. ---
**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-accused-again/317517/14 "2005-08-18T06:53:56Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > I reckon this is the best form for this to be in. If not, please move as necessary šŸ˜ƒ > Just a few minutes ago I was watching MSNBC, so sorry that I donā€™t have a cite or reference article for this (someone else will find one, Iā€™m sure). > > A man is claiming that in May of 1984 he was molested by Michael Jackson. His attorney says that the man was so traumatized that he repressed the memory for 20 years, but the last trial brought what happened back to light. > > Jacksonā€™s attorney came on and said that the Jackson camp has proof that on the days in question Jackson was meeting with President Reagan and Willy Nelson (Iā€™m sure thereā€™s a joke in there somewhere). The manā€™s attorney says he has an affidavit from the limo driver who says Jackson never met with Willy. > > The host (Rita something) asked the manā€™s attorney what he wants out of this accusation. The attorney said (not a direct quote, but well enough), ā€œWell, in the past Jackson has given multi million dollar settlementsā€¦:::pauses:::ā€¦ but, um, due to his financial situations we wouldnā€™t really be able to collect a settlement and uhā€¦ā€ > > And the segment ended. > > Seems to me like the guy is out to get money. Either that or his attorney is a complete idiot. So they did not ask Willy himselfā€¦ :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-accused-again/317517/15 "2005-08-18T07:00:29Z")
> [@Campion](#): > > There are statutes of limitation for civil suits, as well as criminal suits. Which is why the ā€œrepressed memoryā€ ā€œit only just came to lightā€ thing is critical. Depending on the jurisdiction, the statute for personal injury (i.e., battery, sexual assault, etc.) is likely one to four years. So if a man alleges he was molested 21 years ago, the statute has run. (Note that some jurisdictions also have a ā€œminorā€™s rule,ā€ namely, that a statute of limitation for an assault on a minor does not begin to run until the minor turns 18.) > > But bottom line, it sounds to me like the repressed memory is an attempt to do an end run around the statute. Really? I did not know that. Either way, this is obviously bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Hung\_Mung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@Hung\_Mung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hung_Mung)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-accused-again/317517/16 "2005-08-18T07:22:20Z")
Sad. Jackson is a fuckup, but itā€™s just sad to see frivolous crap like this. Itā€™ll be thrown out with haste. I donā€™t feel sorry for MJ, but everyone deserves to be left alone. Let him rot with his Beatles songs and kiddie porn. ---
**Author:** ![Martiju](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@Martiju](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martiju)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-accused-again/317517/17 "2005-08-18T08:21:55Z")
> [@Airman Doors](#): > > It makes no difference. Jackson has been accused twice, and was convicted neither time. Heā€™s untouchable. Or perhaps (perish the thought) there was reasonable doubt that he did not commit the charges brought against himā€¦ Not to say he isnā€™t guilty of something - but that is the premise of the legal system after all. ---
**Author:** ![Lissa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lissa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissa)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-accused-again/317517/18 "2005-08-18T13:21:14Z")
> [@Airman Doors](#): > > It makes no difference. Jackson has been accused twice, and was convicted neither time. Heā€™s untouchable. I dunno . . . a lot of people believe ā€œwhere thereā€™s smoke, thereā€™s fire.ā€ Depite warnings to the contrary, many jurors do come with preconcieved opinions. Some may secretly feel outraged that he ā€œgot away with itā€ two times previously, and may be inclined to convict even if the evidence is not so great. Sort of like cumulative justice. ---
**Author:** ![AngelicGemma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/439d5e/32.png) [@AngelicGemma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelicGemma)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-accused-again/317517/19 "2005-08-18T13:23:10Z")
Not _again!_ _Sigh_ ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-accused-again/317517/20 "2005-08-18T13:32:00Z")
> [@Martiju](#): > > Or perhaps (perish the thought) there was reasonable doubt that he did not commit the charges brought against himā€¦ I donā€™t care if he did it or not, itā€™s more a question of wolf being cried. Heā€™s been charged twice without a conviction by an overzealous district attorney. If this DA does it again heā€™ll be seen as a guy who rang the bell one too many times. If Jackson does get charged again, there better be photographs of his cock in the boyā€™s mouth or itā€™ll never fly. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-accused-again/317517.md?page=2)