# Jackson on the $20 **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 1, 2012, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-on-the-20/639541 "2012-11-01T08:55:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-on-the-20/639541/61 "2012-11-02T04:07:17Z")
> [@rsat3acr](#): > > Little Nemo and Rollo Tomasi, I am not denying his qualifications, but he is not “a reverend”. Reverend is not a noun it’s an adjuctive, He is THE reverend MLK Jr. But it would have been grammatically awkward for me to write _“I don’t see any way in which it can be denied that Martin Luther King was the Reverend.”_ And [Merriam Webster](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/reverend) lists “reverend” as both an adjective and a noun. ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-on-the-20/639541/62 "2012-11-02T04:09:59Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > I’d be OK with shooting him first. was waiting for that. ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-on-the-20/639541/63 "2012-11-02T04:11:31Z")
Nominations for the twenty: Helen Keller Cesar Chavez Rosa Parks Nicola Tesla Harriet Tubman ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-on-the-20/639541/64 "2012-11-02T04:30:42Z")
> [@Ulfreida](#): > > Nominations for the twenty: > > Helen Keller Raised print? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-on-the-20/639541/65 "2012-11-02T04:41:33Z")
I have to think that when most of the money was being designed, that the ‘value’ of said denominations meant alot more - for example - when Lincoln was put on the penny - 1909 - Pennys had actual value - nickels moreso and a quarter - that was alot of money. Penny - Lincoln Nickel - Jefferson Dime - liberty until Roosevelt Quarter - Washington 50cent piece - wasn’t Franklin here for along time? Silver dollars were also Liberty (standing, seated, etc) Dollar bills were Washington as well - 5$ bills - Lincoln They were great honors for those particular people - everyone would always have them - 20/50/100 dollar bills? almost no one would ever see these - atleast not nearly as often. Coinage also used to have a much higher respect value. I do think its time to rethink who is on our more ‘common’ bills and possibly do some changing around. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-on-the-20/639541/66 "2012-11-02T05:10:04Z")
Albert Einstein on the $20. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-on-the-20/639541/67 "2012-11-02T13:48:38Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > IThe standards for who is entitled to call themselves a Reverend are somewhat loose, but there is no standard that would say King did not qualify. Not really. It just means [a member of the clergy](http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/american_english/reverend?region=us&q=reverend). ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-on-the-20/639541/68 "2012-11-02T14:02:41Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I don’t have anything against him. I just don’t think he was a great president. Since when is “greatness” a prerequisite? Which presidents were great? Was Jackson great? Was Grant a great president? Salmon P. Chase wasn’t even president, what was great about him? ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-on-the-20/639541/69 "2012-11-02T14:08:20Z")
> [@hogarth](#): > > I can think of two non-consecutive reasons. The punchline being that you don’t see either one very often? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-on-the-20/639541/70 "2012-11-02T14:18:20Z")
I think it’s kind of taken as read that greatness is a prerequisite. Chase got to be on the $10,000 because he was responsible for creating the US paper currency system as Secretary of the Treasury. He was also a pretty awesome guy. He laid the intellectual foundation for most of Lincoln’s positions on abolition, was the first Chief Justice to admit a black lawyer to the SCOTUS bar, among other things. Grant and Jackson were great _generals_, if not great presidents. Kennedy was a decorated veteran, of course, but it’s not as though he was in charge of a war. I would certainly be okay with taking McKinley off. No idea what that guy did to merit his place. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-on-the-20/639541/71 "2012-11-02T15:25:58Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I would certainly be okay with taking McKinley off. No idea what that guy did to merit his place. He got shot. As did Kennedy and Lincoln. The only assassinated president who was not honored with money was Garfield, but in his six months, he did not do much to merit more than a cat and several counties. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-on-the-20/639541/72 "2012-11-02T15:28:28Z")
I LOLed. Thank you for that. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-on-the-20/639541/73 "2012-11-02T15:33:05Z")
> [@For You](#): > > He got shot. As did Kennedy and Lincoln. The only assassinated president who was not honored with money was Garfield, but in his six months, he did not do much to merit more than a cat and several counties. Poor Garfield did suffer more than all the other shot presidents put together, though. :eek: > [@](#): > > Most historians and medical experts now believe that Garfield probably would have survived his wound had the doctors attending him been more capable Unfortunately for Garfield, most American doctors of the day did not believe in anti-sepsis measures or the need for cleanliness to prevent infection.[47] Several inserted their unsterilized fingers into the wound to probe for the bullet, and one doctor punctured Garfield’s liver in doing so. Also, self-appointed chief physician D. Willard Bliss and the other doctors had guessed wrong about the path of the bullet in Garfield’s body. They had erroneously probed rightward into Garfield’s back instead of leftward, missing the location of the bullet but creating a new channel which filled with pus. The autopsy not only discovered this error but revealed pneumonia in both lungs and a body that was filled with pus due to uncontrolled septicemia > **[Assassination of James A. Garfield](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_James_A._Garfield)** > > On July 2, 1881, James A. Garfield, the 20th president of the United States, was shot at the Baltimore and Potomac Railroad Station in Washington, D.C., resulting in his death in Elberon, New Jersey, two and a half months later on September 19, 1881. The shooting occurred less than four months into his term as president. He was the second American president to be assassinated, following Abraham Lincoln in 1865. Charles J. Guiteau was convicted of Garfield's murder and executed by hanging one y... He should be on MD diplomas, as a cautionary example. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-on-the-20/639541/74 "2012-11-02T15:38:51Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Not really. It just means [a member of the clergy](http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/american_english/reverend?region=us&q=reverend). As a minister in the Universal Life Church, I have documentation acknowledging my Reverend status. Visiting my gf’s ill father in the hospital last week, I posted my CLERGY sign on my dashboard and parked accordingly. My gf was amused, but just barely. I drove her to where her car was parked. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-on-the-20/639541/75 "2012-11-02T16:04:17Z")
I vote for Hillary Clinton on the $20. It’ll encourage us not to spend. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-on-the-20/639541/76 "2012-11-02T16:59:51Z")
I think we should have that topless chick riding a shark. (We’ll use Megan Fox) and on the back, that guy with the flag and the shotgun. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-on-the-20/639541/77 "2012-11-02T17:49:03Z")
> [@Malthus](#): > > Keep him on the $20, but change the pic into one of him doing something charactaristic, like killing someone. 😃 Or a picture of him sneaking out a window from his inauguration party. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-on-the-20/639541/78 "2012-11-02T17:50:13Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > I think we should have that topless chick riding a shark. (We’ll use Megan Fox) and on the back, that guy with the flag and the shotgun. I’m totally cool with this. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-on-the-20/639541/79 "2012-11-02T21:31:03Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > I think we should have that topless chick riding a shark. (We’ll use Megan Fox) and on the back, that guy with the flag and the shotgun. I think we should have Neve Campbell and Denise Richards in the pool scene from _Wild Things_. Because then as a bonus, our currency would have a Bacon number of 1. ---
**Author:** ![Canadjun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Canadjun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadjun)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-on-the-20/639541/80 "2012-11-02T21:44:28Z")
Queen Elizabeth. She looks OK on ours and our money is prettier than yours anyway. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-on-the-20/639541.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jackson-on-the-20/639541.md?page=5)