# Jadzia vs Ezri - Which Dax Reigns Supreme? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 3, 2004, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jadzia-vs-ezri-which-dax-reigns-supreme/222530 "2004-01-03T22:20:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2014, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jadzia-vs-ezri-which-dax-reigns-supreme/222530/41 "2014-12-21T18:21:30Z")
I think this is my first zombie. Also, neither; Kira. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jadzia-vs-ezri-which-dax-reigns-supreme/222530/42 "2014-12-22T00:39:55Z")
Jadzia \>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\> Ezri Though when I was rewatching DS9’s last season earlier this year, I did find Ezri a lot more likable than I did back when the series was first airing. Still not even close to Jadzia, however. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jadzia-vs-ezri-which-dax-reigns-supreme/222530/43 "2014-12-22T02:38:41Z")
Odo: Women don’t react to me in that manner. Lieutenant Jadzia Dax: Are you saying that you’ve never had a female friend? Odo: I consider Major Kira a friend. Lieutenant Jadzia Dax: That’s not what I meant. I’m talking about… an intimate friendship. Odo: That’s a very personal question. Lieutenant Jadzia Dax: I’m sorry, but after seven lifetimes, the impersonal questions aren’t much fun anymore. QED. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jadzia-vs-ezri-which-dax-reigns-supreme/222530/44 "2014-12-22T03:47:58Z")
Was there ever a thread like this for Trek males? I’m a hetero female and while I can admire the qualities of the female characters, or say one is more attractive(IMNSHO) than another, they just don’t turn me on. If I was a strong willed older hetero male, I might look into L’waxana(sp?) Troi. Mature, educated, not unattractive, adventurous. She may be older but she still had the nerve to finally go naked to her own wedding. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jadzia-vs-ezri-which-dax-reigns-supreme/222530/45 "2014-12-22T05:26:15Z")
For all the beauty and brains of the Daxes and other ladies mentioned in this thread - how many can claim to have defeated the cenobites? Only one of them - sir, only one of them. She reigns supreme. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jadzia-vs-ezri-which-dax-reigns-supreme/222530/46 "2014-12-22T06:16:33Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > If I was a strong willed older hetero male, I might look into L’waxana(sp?) Troi. Mature, educated, not unattractive, adventurous. She may be older but she still had the nerve to finally go naked to her own wedding. That and she owned the Star Trek franchise rights as the widow of Gene Roddenberry. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jadzia-vs-ezri-which-dax-reigns-supreme/222530/47 "2014-12-22T16:54:20Z")
> [@simster](#): > > For all the beauty and brains of the Daxes and other ladies mentioned in this thread - how many can claim to have defeated the cenobites? > > Only one of them - sir, only one of them. > > She reigns supreme. Jadzia wouldn’t last five seconds in “The Cube” ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jadzia-vs-ezri-which-dax-reigns-supreme/222530/48 "2014-12-22T17:15:56Z")
> [@Dale\_Sams](#): > > Jadzia wouldn’t last five seconds in “The Cube” I’m sorry, I don’t get that reference. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jadzia-vs-ezri-which-dax-reigns-supreme/222530/49 "2014-12-22T17:45:40Z")
> [@simster](#): > > I’m sorry, I don’t get that reference. Well, the actress who plays Jadzia is in the third Hellblazer, and she buries the Cenobite puzzle in concrete…The actress who plays Ezri is in “The Cube” and makes it almost to the very end of the movie. ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jadzia-vs-ezri-which-dax-reigns-supreme/222530/50 "2014-12-22T18:18:12Z")
> [@Dale\_Sams](#): > > Well, the actress who plays Jadzia is in the third Hellblazer, and she buries the Cenobite puzzle in concrete…The actress who plays Ezri is in “The Cube” and makes it almost to the very end of the movie. Almost doesn’t count for very much, you know. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jadzia-vs-ezri-which-dax-reigns-supreme/222530/51 "2014-12-22T18:18:48Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > If I was a strong willed older hetero male, I might look into L’waxana(sp?) Troi. Mature, educated, not unattractive, adventurous. I’m somewhere on the older, hetero male spectrum and I found L’waxana annoying as hell. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jadzia-vs-ezri-which-dax-reigns-supreme/222530/52 "2014-12-22T18:53:20Z")
Older, hetero male who finds Lwaxana annoying? Is your name Jean-Luc, perhaps? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jadzia-vs-ezri-which-dax-reigns-supreme/222530/53 "2014-12-22T19:05:07Z")
> [@Dale\_Sams](#): > > Well, the actress who plays Jadzia is in the third Hellblazer, and she buries the Cenobite puzzle in concrete…The actress who plays Ezri is in “The Cube” and makes it almost to the very end of the movie. My summation stands - ‘almost’ only counts with photon torpedos and hand grenades. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jadzia-vs-ezri-which-dax-reigns-supreme/222530/54 "2014-12-22T22:48:35Z")
> [@Dale\_Sams](#): > > Jadzia wouldn’t last five seconds in “The Cube” Hey, she did just fine in “Move along Home”! (The one where the crew gets sucked into that board game wherein Quark is forced to gamble with their lives.) ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jadzia-vs-ezri-which-dax-reigns-supreme/222530/55 "2014-12-22T22:55:25Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > Was there ever a thread like this for Trek males? > > I’m a hetero female and while I can admire the qualities of the female characters, or say one is more attractive(IMNSHO) than another, they just don’t turn me on. > > If I was a strong willed older hetero male, I might look into L’waxana(sp?) Troi. Mature, educated, not unattractive, adventurous. She may be older but she still had the nerve to finally go naked to her own wedding. She was also incredibly annoying in many of her appearances. The relationship she formed with Odo was pretty cool, though. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2014, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jadzia-vs-ezri-which-dax-reigns-supreme/222530/56 "2014-12-23T05:10:28Z")
> [@Shakes](#): > > Hey, she did just fine in “Move along Home”! (The one where the crew gets sucked into that board game wherein Quark is forced to gamble with their lives.) Nicole deBoer also play “Bobby’s girlfriend” in Kids in the Hall. Well before DS9. This led to my theory that there is a very limited pool of Canadian actors. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2014, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jadzia-vs-ezri-which-dax-reigns-supreme/222530/57 "2014-12-23T15:59:30Z")
As another post commented, the interesting thing about Ezri is that she _was_ so far out of her depth, and the show didn’t shrug that off. My favorite example: In one episode, Ezri was investigating a series of murders, and decided to summon up the memory of a previous host - who happened to be a serial killer. (It sort of made sense in context). Anyway, the former host (host-ghost?) starts mentoring her in the methods of recreational murder, and Ezri is sufficiently impressionable that you can almost believe she’ll jump off that cliff herself. That’s kind of cool. Agreed that Jadzia was hotter, but deBoer is a singular beauty herself - and, of course, neither compares to Evil Kira. ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2014, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jadzia-vs-ezri-which-dax-reigns-supreme/222530/58 "2014-12-23T16:32:26Z")
I remember that episode, the one where they attached a transporter to a rifle so you could shoot through walls, which was never seen or mentioned again. Star Trek never really really fully explored the full-blown paranoia-inducing potential of transporters. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2014, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jadzia-vs-ezri-which-dax-reigns-supreme/222530/59 "2014-12-23T18:53:16Z")
Funny, I felt that Jadzia was the hotter of the two Dax’s. Ezri kind of reminded me of Julian’s “Wish Dax” from that one episode. But when Nicole Deboer went on to “Dead Zone” her hotness factor seemed to rise by at least a factor of five. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5ac83/32.png) [@The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mad_Hermit)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2014, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jadzia-vs-ezri-which-dax-reigns-supreme/222530/60 "2014-12-27T00:54:38Z")
Ditto on the fact that I opened this, not knowing it was a zombie till I saw my post. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jadzia-vs-ezri-which-dax-reigns-supreme/222530.md?page=2)