# Jali's Popular Sci-Fi Feud \[Closed\]

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jalis-popular-sci-fi-feud-closed/455284
**Category:** The Game Room
**Created:** [July 4, 2008, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jalis-popular-sci-fi-feud-closed/455284 "2008-07-04T11:39:21Z")
**Posts on this page:** 19
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### Author: ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2008, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jalis-popular-sci-fi-feud-closed/455284/61 "2008-07-06T00:45:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Thudlow Boink]  
**4. A Wrinkle in Time 13**  
4. L’Engle’s Time Quartet 1

I’m pretty sure these should count as equivalent.  
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New scores:

Glory 508.51  
42fish 482.98  
MHaye 478.72  
want2know 476.60  
Larry Borgia 476.60  
Scarlett67 463.83  
Dolores Reborn 419.15  
swampbear 419.15  
astorian 404.26  
Eleanor of Aquitaine 397.87  
Qwisp 395.74  
MsWhatsit 389.36  
adam yax 389.36  
Sternvogel 387.23  
Wargamer 378.72  
Thudlow Boink 376.60  
anyrose 374.47  
Fretful Porpentine 374.47  
WVmom 374.47  
RealityChuck 374.47  
brujaja 370.21  
Busy Scissors 361.70  
adhemar 361.70  
Amp 357.45  
Miller 353.19  
Kat 351.06  
Maus Magill 348.94  
tdn 348.94  
bibliophage 340.43  
Little Nemo 340.43  
El\_Kabong 336.17  
silenus 334.04  
3acresandatruck 334.04  
robardin 329.79  
Baker 325.53  
OtakuLoki 323.40  
SpazCat 314.89  
brownie55 310.64  
tarragon918 302.13  
This’ll Do 295.74  
Attack from the 3rd dimension 291.49  
winterhawk11 291.49  
Justin\_Bailey 274.47  
Justin Credible 272.34  
Asimovian 270.21  
WormTheRed 229.79  
Harmonious Discord 76.60

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### Author: ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2008, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jalis-popular-sci-fi-feud-closed/455284/62 "2008-07-06T01:30:53Z")

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[QUOTE=want2know]  
[Grok](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok)  
[/QUOTE]

I so get it now, or rather, I grok it! 😉

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### Author: ![Glory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7cd45c/32.png) [@Glory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Glory)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2008, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jalis-popular-sci-fi-feud-closed/455284/63 "2008-07-06T01:38:24Z")

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Yay!!! My second first place victory! To be fair, this feud was like that episode of Cheers where Cliff goes on Jeopardy and every category is his area of expertise 😉

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### Author: ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2008, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jalis-popular-sci-fi-feud-closed/455284/64 "2008-07-06T03:03:41Z")

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Thanks for running the feud, **Dolores** , and thank you, **jali** for a fun topic.

And I can’t even make my usual complaint at at least my non-matching answers were right. _sob_

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### Author: ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2008, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jalis-popular-sci-fi-feud-closed/455284/65 "2008-07-06T04:08:27Z")

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[QUOTE=OtakuLoki]  
Thanks for running the feud, **Dolores** , and thank you, **jali** for a fun topic.  
[/QUOTE]  
Ditto. (I didn’t want my only contribution to be a correction, and thus seem ungrateful.) This was a fun one.

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### Author: ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2008, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jalis-popular-sci-fi-feud-closed/455284/66 "2008-07-06T12:00:59Z")

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Al right! Two times in last place and I hardly ever play. I’m the man baby. Whoot! Whoot!  
Shouldn’t the rule be something like this doesn’t get scored as a 1.

> [@](#):
>
> crap, I only read fantasy as a kid

It is admitting they have no answer. Why should it get a 1 just like a real answer?

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### Author: ![WormTheRed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/bbe5ce/32.png) [@WormTheRed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WormTheRed)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2008, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jalis-popular-sci-fi-feud-closed/455284/67 "2008-07-06T12:37:08Z")

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[QUOTE=Harmonious Discord]  
Al right! Two times in last place and I hardly ever play. I’m the man baby. Whoot! Whoot!  
Shouldn’t the rule be something like this doesn’t get scored as a 1.

It is admitting they have no answer. Why should it get a 1 just like a real answer?  
[/QUOTE]

The battle of the second to last place 😛

And in that theme… are the Potter and Narnia books sci-fi? I kinda figured them to be fantasy (which is why I answered what I did).

Or can you actually answer whatver you want?

I don’t mean this as a rant or nag, I just want to know for future feuds.

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### Author: ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2008, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jalis-popular-sci-fi-feud-closed/455284/68 "2008-07-06T12:43:11Z")

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Obviously I’m in a solid last place. It just occurs to me that while the current system rewards matching the most people, and not needing to be correct, that something like the following shouldn’t get any points.

Don’t know  
NA  
That’s hard  
or a blank

Wait until the day where a few people put na and get high points for it.

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### Author: ![WormTheRed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/bbe5ce/32.png) [@WormTheRed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WormTheRed)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2008, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jalis-popular-sci-fi-feud-closed/455284/69 "2008-07-06T12:44:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Harmonious Discord]  
Obviously I’m in a solid last place. It just occurs to me that while the current system rewards matching the most people, and not needing to be correct, that something like the following shouldn’t get any points.

Don’t know  
NA  
That’s hard  
or a blank

Wait until the day where a few people put na and get high points for it.  
[/QUOTE]

I agree with this one and wasn’t expecting points for my “no idea”.

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### Author: ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2008, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jalis-popular-sci-fi-feud-closed/455284/70 "2008-07-06T13:01:45Z")

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[QUOTE=WormTheRed]  
I agree with this one and wasn’t expecting points for my “no idea”.  
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I just want to be sure you know i wasn’t picking on you. I’ve put NA in before and expected 0 points.

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### Author: ![This\_ll\_Do](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/this_ll_do/32/3023_2.png) [@This\_ll\_Do](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/This_ll_Do)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2008, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jalis-popular-sci-fi-feud-closed/455284/71 "2008-07-06T13:04:08Z")

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[QUOTE=Harmonious Discord]  
Obviously I’m in a solid last place. It just occurs to me that while the current system rewards matching the most people, and not needing to be correct, that something like the following shouldn’t get any points.

Don’t know  
NA  
That’s hard  
or a blank

Wait until the day where a few people put na and get high points for it.  
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Maybe that wouldn’t be a bad thing. If several people need to “pass” because they have no idea on a particular answer, then that could be counted as a legitimate answer since it’s the response they chose.  
Does that make sense? Say five people put, “pass” or “??” or some other indication of “have no idea,” that could count as five people giving the same answer.

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### Author: ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2008, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jalis-popular-sci-fi-feud-closed/455284/72 "2008-07-06T14:48:46Z")

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All answers that only have 1 don’t get any points at all, because they have not matched anyone. The numbers you see next to the answers represent number of matches, not points. Points are (in this case) 100/47 = 2.12 times the number of answers. So, for example, #1 had 32 matches and is equal to 32x2.12=67.84 pts per person who answered “Asimov.” (The spreadsheet has some kind of rounding built in so the fractions don’t add up quite correctly, but the placement of everyone is still correct.)

That’s also why I keep all the “pass” type answers unique, so they don’t get any matches and therefore no points.

Clear as mud, huh? 😉

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### Author: ![Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2008, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jalis-popular-sci-fi-feud-closed/455284/73 "2008-07-06T14:54:06Z")

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Great feud! It was really hard to remember to put what I thought would be \*popular \*answers and not my \*favorite \*answers.

I really thought “Frak” would win out over “Grok”. I don’t remember seeing “Grok” used around here very much.

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### Author: ![Scarlett67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scarlett67/32/7387_2.png) [@Scarlett67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scarlett67)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2008, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jalis-popular-sci-fi-feud-closed/455284/74 "2008-07-06T15:41:23Z")

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Wow, 6th place! I thought I would tank.

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### Author: ![Glory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7cd45c/32.png) [@Glory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Glory)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2008, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jalis-popular-sci-fi-feud-closed/455284/75 "2008-07-06T16:18:33Z")

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[QUOTE=WormTheRed]  
The battle of the second to last place 😛

And in that theme… are the Potter and Narnia books sci-fi? I kinda figured them to be fantasy (which is why I answered what I did).

Or can you actually answer whatver you want?

I don’t mean this as a rant or nag, I just want to know for future feuds.  
[/QUOTE]

You answer whatever you think most people will answer. The goal is not to be “right,” the goal is to guess the “number 1” answer - the most popular answer. You want your answers to match the most number of people.

Look at the [All American Feud](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=474072) from a few days ago. There was a question that was something like “Besides July 4, name a holiday celebrated only in America” - the most popular answer was “Thanksgiving” which wasn’t a “right” answer (in my opinion) since Canada also celebrates Thanksgiving.

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### Author: ![WormTheRed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/bbe5ce/32.png) [@WormTheRed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WormTheRed)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2008, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jalis-popular-sci-fi-feud-closed/455284/76 "2008-07-06T16:25:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Glory]  
You answer whatever you think most people will answer. The goal is not to be “right,” the goal is to guess the “number 1” answer - the most popular answer. You want your answers to match the most number of people.

Look at the [All American Feud](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=474072) from a few days ago. There was a question that was something like “Besides July 4, name a holiday celebrated only in America” - the most popular answer was “Thanksgiving” which wasn’t a “right” answer (in my opinion) since Canada also celebrates Thanksgiving.  
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Good to know! Thanks for the clarification!

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### Author: ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2008, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jalis-popular-sci-fi-feud-closed/455284/77 "2008-07-07T12:14:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Dolores Reborn]  
All answers that only have 1 don’t get any points at all, because they have not matched anyone. The numbers you see next to the answers represent number of matches, not points. Points are (in this case) 100/47 = 2.12 times the number of answers. So, for example, #1 had 32 matches and is equal to 32x2.12=67.84 pts per person who answered “Asimov.” (The spreadsheet has some kind of rounding built in so the fractions don’t add up quite correctly, but the placement of everyone is still correct.)

That’s also why I keep all the “pass” type answers unique, so they don’t get any matches and therefore no points.

Clear as mud, huh? 😉  
[/QUOTE]

Thanks. Yes mud. Gotcha.

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### Author: ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2008, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jalis-popular-sci-fi-feud-closed/455284/78 "2008-07-07T12:51:57Z")

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Yay! You guys took the time to play. Thank you.

I was away for the weekend but I’ve been grinning since I read the great answers and comments. **Delores Reborn** - thanks for posting and grading!

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### Author: ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2008, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jalis-popular-sci-fi-feud-closed/455284/79 "2008-07-07T18:06:54Z")

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[QUOTE=jali]  
Yay! You guys took the time to play. Thank you.

I was away for the weekend but I’ve been grinning since I read the great answers and comments. **Delores Reborn** - thanks for posting and grading!  
[/QUOTE]

More importantly thanks for putting in the effort to create a game.

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