# James Gunn fired from Guardians of the Galaxy 3 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 20, 2018, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-gunn-fired-from-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3/818297 "2018-07-20T21:56:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-gunn-fired-from-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3/818297/161 "2018-09-04T03:59:28Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Dear God can one just ask a question without being jumped upon? Was curious since they have been out of the news for a long time. I didn’t realize that answering your question was “jumping on you”. I literally wasn’t sure if you asked that rhetorically to make some point or were genuinely curious. Next time I’ll refrain from answering you at all :rolleyes: > [@MrDibble](#): > > They got into the Reefer…or [not](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_Blue#End_of_white_nationalist_politics). I was going to mention that but apparently one of the girls started using it medically while fighting cancer so it didn’t really seem like “started toking up and mellowed out about all that Nazi stuff” ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-gunn-fired-from-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3/818297/162 "2018-09-04T06:48:45Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > They got into the Reefer…or [not](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_Blue#End_of_white_nationalist_politics). Achtung! Hippie…:eek: Man it’s getting difficult to find good Nazi rock bands these days… ---
**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-gunn-fired-from-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3/818297/163 "2018-10-09T21:43:30Z")
Well now _this_ is interesting: [James Gunn Boards ‘Suicide Squad 2’ To Write And Possibly Direct](https://deadline.com/2018/10/james-gunn-boards-suicide-squad-2-to-write-and-possibly-direct-1202479455/) There is a pretty wide range of outcomes for how the next few years of DC movies could go. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-gunn-fired-from-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3/818297/164 "2018-10-09T21:57:52Z")
> [@borschevsky](#): > > Well now _this_ is interesting: > > [James Gunn Boards ‘Suicide Squad 2’ To Write And Possibly Direct](https://deadline.com/2018/10/james-gunn-boards-suicide-squad-2-to-write-and-possibly-direct-1202479455/) I sort of called it, although I was assuming it would be Fox that would snap him up and have him architect a _Deadpool_-centered/_X-Men_-adjacent cinematic universe, or else write and direct the first R-rated attempt at a _Fantastic Four_ movie, which is really the only shot that franchise ever has at [breaking 40% on the TomatoMeter](https://www.rottentomatoes.com/search/?search=fantastic%20four). A _Suicide Squad_-type movie is obviously a great fit for Gunn’s sensibility although given what an absolute hash the first film was it really carries a lot of dead weight to be shed in the sequel. Hopefully Gunn gives his approval to whomever takes over _Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 3_ and provides some guidance, and Marvel selects someone with the appropriately quirky approach, but I’m dubious that it will live up to the first two in terms of the visual inventiveness and snappy dialogue (a lot of which was added by Gunn during filming or ad libbed by the cast with Gunn’s encouragement). Given that the Guardians were supposed to be the franchise successors to the Avengers, this also leaves some doubt about the direction that the MCU will take after _Avengers 4: We Still Won’t Tell You The Title Because It Just Makes You That Much More Anxious To Give Us All Your Money_. But frankly, Marvel Studios has assembled a lot of talent and allowed it to develop in unique ways within an overall framework, so there are a multitude of ways they can take the MCU going forward even if none of the _Guardians_ players decide to return beyond their current contracts. Chris Pratt and Dave Bautista were revelations, but it isn’t as if Marvel is struggling to attract and develop great talent. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-gunn-fired-from-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3/818297/165 "2018-10-10T00:12:26Z")
> [@borschevsky](#): > > There is a pretty wide range of outcomes for how the next few years of DC movies could go. If I were DC and James Gunn expressed some interest, I would just ask him what he wants to do, and let him do it. ---
**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-gunn-fired-from-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3/818297/166 "2018-10-10T00:29:32Z")
Yeah. I had no interest at all in a new Suicide Squad, but I’m interested now. The new Wonder Woman will hopefully be good, and Aquaman looks at least interesting. Of course it all might turn out terribly, but who knows. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-gunn-fired-from-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3/818297/167 "2019-03-15T19:11:03Z")
Rehired. [https://mobile.twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1106616493070942210](https://mobile.twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1106616493070942210) ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-gunn-fired-from-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3/818297/168 "2019-03-15T19:16:22Z")
Celebrate: ["Guardians' Inferno" | Marvel Studios’ Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 - YouTube](https://youtu.be/3MMMe1drnZY) ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-gunn-fired-from-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3/818297/169 "2019-03-15T19:21:19Z")
Ok Dave Bautista, you can take your foot off of Bob Iger’s neck now. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-gunn-fired-from-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3/818297/170 "2019-03-15T19:32:11Z")
Curious about what changed the PR calculus in eight months. Just needed whatever fervor there was last summer to die down? But whoever brought up the initial issue (the offensive tweets) … aren’t those people still around to complain? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-gunn-fired-from-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3/818297/171 "2019-03-15T19:36:35Z")
> [@bordelond](#): > > Curious about what changed the PR calculus in eight months. Just needed whatever fervor there was last summer to die down? > > But whoever brought up the initial issue (the offensive tweets) … aren’t those people still around to complain? As those were the same people that complained about every MCU movie, and even the same people who predicted that captain marvel would fail miserably, I thk that Disney finally realized that those are not people that need to be listened to. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-gunn-fired-from-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3/818297/172 "2019-03-15T20:37:10Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > As those were the same people that complained about every MCU movie, and even the same people who predicted that captain marvel would fail miserably, I thk that Disney finally realized that those are not people that need to be listened to. Also, they were notably silent when Gunn was hired by Warner to direct the next _Suicide Squad_ movie - possibly that pushed Disney to realize the complaints against Gunn were astroturf. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-gunn-fired-from-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3/818297/173 "2019-03-15T20:59:52Z")
[AP story here](https://apnews.com/e095da1816714b9dabd27ffccae7036e) ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-gunn-fired-from-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3/818297/174 "2019-03-15T21:44:41Z")
> [@](#): > > Today’s THR report clarifies that Disney’s search for a new Guardians director may have never happened after all. Instead, while the film industry guessed who might take the helm and agents made bids for their clients, Disney waited a few weeks, then went back to Gunn in secret to strike a deal. This deal included letting Gunn go ahead with work on Suicide Squad, which is currently pegged for a 2021 release. This, then, would mark the second major friendly shift of a Marvel Studios film director to a DC franchise, following Joss Whedon’s work completing the 2017 Justice League film. > **[Report: James Gunn has been un-fired from Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3](https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/03/report-james-gunn-has-been-un-fired-from-guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-3/)** > > After Disney firing in July over tweets, Gunn defected to DC Studios, Suicide Squad. > **[James Gunn Back On as ‘Guardians of the Galaxy 3’ Director](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/james-gunn-back-as-guardians-galaxy-3-director-1195066/)** > > James Gunn has been rehired to direct Disney's 'Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3.' He had been fired last July. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-gunn-fired-from-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3/818297/175 "2019-03-15T22:43:22Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > As those were the same people that complained about every MCU movie, and even the same people who predicted that captain marvel would fail miserably, I thk that Disney finally realized that those are not people that need to be listened to. That’s my read on it, too. The sad attempt to gin up the poutrage machine because they didn’t want girl cooties in their movie franchise may have finally gotten through to Disney that the only rational response to these people is to ignore them. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2019, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-gunn-fired-from-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3/818297/176 "2019-03-16T02:57:45Z")
That’s true of almost all outrage mobs. Stop feeding them and they’ll go away. ---
**Author:** ![DKW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dkw/32/3118_2.png) [@DKW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DKW)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2019, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-gunn-fired-from-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3/818297/177 "2019-03-29T08:17:53Z")
[Obligatory postmortem](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-kCkUUe9so) from the master. (No, the _other_ master. :D) Yes. Great, wonderful, awesome. Look, I really don’t give a damn if Disney makes a billion dollars or just a modest 800 million, or if GOTG3 gets delayed three months or three hours. This is big for one reason…_justice was served_. What’s more, Disney, one of the most powerful entities in the entire world, took the right side. Yeah, I’m aware that it happened mainly because Gunn had a lot of support and Disney stood to lose a ton of money and the clock was ticking. You know what else I’m aware of? That I don’t give a crap. **The. Good. Guys. Won.** For two goddam years, the mainstream media has pushed for Donald Trump and his hideous revolution with the fervor of of a megachurch preacher. Dear lord, I have not seen this hard a sell since the Playstation 2. Week after week, month after month, it was Trump’s gaining in popularity, Trump has a ton of support, everyone bows down to Trump, Trump is the boss, Trump is the king, Trump is indestructible, Trump has a plan for everything, everyone who matters loves Trump, on and on and on and on. Never mind the roughly 300,000 whiny, snivelling articles about white former Trump supporters who regret their decision soooooo much and need to be showered with understanding and pity and love (not enough :rolleyes: in the _world_.) And then we saw the ugliness. White supremacists. Beatings. Murders. Goddam _Nazis_. Maybe Trump helped create them; maybe they were always there and were simply emboldened by a filthier, more disgusting America. I’ve always held that America has always had an absolutely freakish tolerance for disgusting jerkish behavior…good lord, some of the crap I’ve seen boys got away with would’ve sent them to the freaking labor camps in places like China or Germany. And for a while, it looked like the forces of white supremacy and male supremacy and bigotry and intolerance and just taking a giant steaming dump on the country in general had all the power in the world. Well, guess what? Gunn not only is back in the saddle, he also has a sweet gig directing Suicide Squad 2, so he’s getting paid by _both_ huge comic book studios. Oh, BTW, that Captain Marvel movie they were also so cracked up? Making money hand over fist. That’s why it’s great to have moments like this, to remind us just how little power the whineboys have, how a man they targeted for destruction is now bigger than ever, and how easy it is for a giant like Disney to just step over them like the feeble little dust specks they are. Even if it took a little while for them to realize that. Oh, [that reminds me…](https://www.cracked.com/funny-4739-scott-pilgrim/) 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2019, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-gunn-fired-from-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3/818297/178 "2019-03-29T13:54:35Z")
[Moderating] This is about Gunn and Disney, not about Trump. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-gunn-fired-from-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3/818297.md?page=8)