# James Otto Asshole

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-asshole/654024>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2013, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-asshole/654024 "2013-03-26T17:41:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-asshole/654024/41 "2013-03-26T19:32:13Z")

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There’s no monkies in that! ☹

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-asshole/654024/42 "2013-03-26T19:33:52Z")

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You could substitute them for the nuts.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-asshole/654024/43 "2013-03-26T19:40:32Z")

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> [@Kimballkid](#):
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> You could substitute them for the nuts.

That reminds me that I had crunchy frogs on Thanksgiving. Homemade crunchy frogs, that is.

The frogs were chocolate, the bones were little pretzels, and the blood was raspberry jam. I was quite impressed!

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**Author:** ![Toucanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Toucanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toucanna)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-asshole/654024/44 "2013-03-26T19:45:33Z")

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6.25 cups of bread flour  
3 cups of water, @ 110°F to 115°F  
1.5 TBS yeast (I prefer “Red Star” bread machine yeast)  
1 TBS salt  
1 TBS granulated sugar  
1 cup powdered milk (I use non-fat)

In a very large sealable food storage bin, place yeast and water. Cover and let rest until yeast produces bubbles.

Then add the salt, sugar, powdered milk and flour. Stir with a wooden spoon until there is no dry flour showing. Put bin in a warm place and allow to rise approximately 1.5 hours. Then place bin in the refrigerator several hours (overnight is best).

When you are ready to bake bread, pinch off a section of the dough approximately the size of a grapefruit. Knead it a little bit until it is pliable (you may have to add a little water). Place on a baking sheet that has been covered with a generous layer of cornmeal.

Allow the loaf to rise for approximately 40 minutes (when the dough springs back when pressed lightly with a fingertip). Then, bake at 425°F for approximately 25 minutes. Temperature and time may vary depending on your equipment. Allow bread to cool for approximately 20 minutes. Then slice and enjoy. If you like, you can anoint the loaf with butter as soon as it comes out of the oven.

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**Author:** ![nonacetone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonacetone/32/2819_2.png) [@nonacetone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nonacetone)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-asshole/654024/45 "2013-03-26T19:46:08Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> That reminds me that I had crunchy frogs on Thanksgiving. Homemade crunchy frogs, that is.
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> The frogs were chocolate, the bones were little pretzels, and the blood was raspberry jam. I was quite impressed!

You _really_ need to be finding the recipe for this, and posting it, because I’m quite interested in making this yummy, little concoction!

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**Author:** ![August\_West](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/august_west/32/18069_2.png) [@August\_West](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/August_West)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-asshole/654024/46 "2013-03-26T19:55:22Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> What’s so hard to understand, ladyfoxfyre? You have made a conscious decision to shiver in fear at the potentiality that what you have rejected as a belief system could in all likelyhood be accurate! It’s all right there, clear as crystal. You stole fizzy lifting drinks and so YOU LOSE! YOU LOSE!!!

I love you.

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**Author:** ![llcoolbj77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb9ed0/32.png) [@llcoolbj77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/llcoolbj77)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-asshole/654024/47 "2013-03-26T20:11:57Z")

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> [@Kimballkid](#):
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> Here you go:

THANK YOU!! I am also going to try **jsgoddess** ’s recipe from the other thread. Those things looked awesome.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-asshole/654024/48 "2013-03-26T20:25:19Z")

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Either I’m in an unusually grouchy mood, or there’s more asshole on the internet than usual today.

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**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-asshole/654024/49 "2013-03-26T20:38:25Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ Hey Curly, did someone ask that you leave this chat starting message?

“leave this chat starting message” … Oh! Did someone ask me to start this thread? No.

When you aren’t speaking the same language as those around you, it makes it difficult for them to understand you.

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> No, **but you went ahead and left it anyways** just like I shared a belief even though I wasn’t asked.

Me starting this thread doesn’t hurt anyone. You piling nastiness onto people who are grieving does. Do you see the difference?

> [@Smeghead](#):
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> This will be a productive, enlightening, and useful thread.

It isn’t supposed to be productive or enlightening. Whether it is useful will remain to be seen.

> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> When did sharing beliefs become an evil and hurtful thing? When people like you chose to be scared of the possibility that what you don’t believe in could very well be true?

Even _ **if** _ it were true that all suicides go to hell, that has zero to do with being afraid of any possibilities.

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> To me, the only person who should be allowed to bring the subject up in the first place is the preacher,

You are not a preacher - why did you bring it up?

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> P.S. Don’t forget that I earlier said that if anyone were to ask me what I believe about the subject that I **would** tell them what it is that I believe. I would **not** lie to them.

Nobody here has ever asked you.

Bitch.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-asshole/654024/50 "2013-03-26T20:40:30Z")

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> [@Filbert](#):
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> Hm, if that’s the way the board goes, maybe I should become a maniac.
> 
> Can I request cake recipes instead though please?

For those who like cake with their frosting, [Chocolate Mocha Inside Out Cake](http://jordanandross.com/RuddickFolder/Rc9.htm) (I’ve also seen this called a Celebration Cake). Definitely worth the difficulty as noted on the bottom of the page.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-asshole/654024/51 "2013-03-26T20:43:02Z")

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> [@nonacetone](#):
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> You _really_ need to be finding the recipe for this, and posting it, because I’m quite interested in making this yummy, little concoction!

Unfortunately I don’t know the guy who made them very well.

I know that he started with a little plastic frog that he found somewhere, and used it to make a mold. And I know he poured some chocolate into the mold, then put in the jam and pretzel, then more chocolate. What I don’t know is what he made the mold with or how they came out so smooth. The only thing I know to make a candy mold from is cornstarch. But there would be imperfections and it would come out all dusty.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-asshole/654024/52 "2013-03-26T20:47:25Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ Like I have said in the past, I am not going clam up because of how others may feel about what my beliefs are and I don’t expect other people to be quiet either. I would rather a person be upfront and honest about themselves, wouldn’t you? To me, its better to know about a person early on compared to finding out about them later on and realized that you wasted a lot of time that you can’t get back?  
> God bless you always!!!  
> Holly  
> P.S. If you can not deal with what others have to share about **themselves** like their beliefs for example, don’t go online until you **can**.

My cat’s breath smells like cat food.

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**Author:** ![araminty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5e925/32.png) [@araminty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/araminty)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-asshole/654024/53 "2013-03-26T20:54:46Z")

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> [@nonacetone](#):
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> You _really_ need to be finding the recipe for this, and posting it, because I’m quite interested in making this yummy, little concoction!

> **[Crunchy Frog](http://feastygeeks.blogspot.com/2012/04/crunchy-frog.html)**
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> Crunchy Raw Unboned Real Dead Frog (to avoid prosecution) The Crunchy Frog is a standard reference for all Monty Python afficionados.  T...

(I Googled chocolate frog pretzel jam.)

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-asshole/654024/54 "2013-03-26T20:55:36Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> Unfortunately I don’t know the guy who made them very well.
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> I know that he started with a little plastic frog that he found somewhere, and used it to make a mold. And I know he poured some chocolate into the mold, then put in the jam and pretzel, then more chocolate. What I don’t know is what he made the mold with or how they came out so smooth. The only thing I know to make a candy mold from is cornstarch. But there would be imperfections and it would come out all dusty.

Could this be it? Or at least similar? There is a link on the page as well to get a froggy mold.

> **[Crunchy Frog](http://feastygeeks.blogspot.com/2012/04/crunchy-frog.html)**
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> Crunchy Raw Unboned Real Dead Frog (to avoid prosecution) The Crunchy Frog is a standard reference for all Monty Python afficionados.  T...

ETA: Ninja’d by Araminty!

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**Author:** ![nonacetone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonacetone/32/2819_2.png) [@nonacetone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nonacetone)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-asshole/654024/55 "2013-03-26T20:57:22Z")

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> [@araminty](#):
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> [Feasty Geeks: Crunchy Frog](http://feastygeeks.blogspot.com/2012/04/crunchy-frog.html)
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> (I Googled chocolate frog pretzel jam.)

I’m an idiot. I should have done that. Thank you.

Thank you, as well, **tdn**.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-asshole/654024/56 "2013-03-26T20:59:46Z")

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Also, while I’m at it…

> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ Hey Curly, did someone ask that you leave this chat starting message?

…Yes. You did.

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> What I asked earlier still has yet to be answered. If there is a time and a place for a person to share what they believe concerning the subject of suicide, when is the time and place then, especially if suicide is not going to be brought up until someone has taken their life? Also where would you rather a person share their beliefs about suicide? At the funeral of a person who took their life or a public message forum? Which do you think is the lesser of the two?

You may remember these questions of yours from (a) having asked them yourself and (b) them being quoted in the opening post of this thread…sorry…the “starting thing chat opener word glob chat chat”.

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-asshole/654024/57 "2013-03-26T21:15:29Z")

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Jesus Christ **James Otto Sweet Heart** they are message board threads, they are **NOT** fucking ‘chats’ you ignorant twat. Pull your fucking head out of your fucking virginal ass!! Learn at least one thing from this place.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-asshole/654024/58 "2013-03-26T21:17:35Z")

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**Irish Potato Candy** (no baking required)

1/4 cup butter, softened  
1/2 (8 ounce) package cream cheese  
1 teaspoon vanilla extract  
4 cups confectioners’ sugar  
2 1/2 cups flaked coconut  
1 tablespoon ground cinnamon

In a medium bowl, beat the butter and cream cheese together until smooth. Add the vanilla and confectioners’ sugar; beat until smooth. Using your hands if necessary, mix in the coconut. Roll into balls or potato shapes, and roll in the cinnamon. Place onto a cookie sheet and chill to set. If desired, roll potatoes in cinnamon again for darker color.

Any whenever you shame a suicide survivor, shove one up your ass so the melty anal goodness blends in with your smug sanctimoniousness. Two great sensations in one!

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-asshole/654024/59 "2013-03-26T21:31:00Z")

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> [@Kimballkid](#):
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> Jesus Christ **James Otto Sweet Heart** they are message board threads, they are **NOT** fucking ‘chats’ you ignorant twat. Pull your fucking head out of your fucking virginal ass!! Learn at least one thing from this place.

JOSH’s _ass_ is not virginal. Maybe some other part of her is, but I doubt it.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2013, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-asshole/654024/60 "2013-03-26T21:42:28Z")

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I know this is going to be a controversial question…  
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What about fruitcake?

Personally, I like a nice, rich moist fruitcake, but I know a lot of people can’t stand the stuff.

I made a boil/bake fruitcake yesterday with lots of preserved citrus peel in it - it’s delicious.  
**For Stage 1**  
115g (4oz) Butter or vegetable baking fat  
170g (6oz) sugar (white granulated is fine, or a 50/50 mix of brown and white sugars)  
400g (14oz) mixed dried fruit  
115g (4oz) fresh apple, peeled and cored  
225ml (8 fl oz) water or apple juice (or water with generous dash of rum or brandy)  
1 Heaped teaspoon ground mixed spices (a blend of cinnamon, ginger, nutmeg, etc)  
1 Level teaspoon bicarbonate of soda  
**For Stage 2**  
2 eggs  
225g (8oz) Self-raising flour  
Pinch of salt

Place all of the stage 1 ingredients in a saucepan, bring to the boil and simmer for a few minutes, stirring all the time, then remove from the heat and allow to cool for 2 hours

Add the stage 2 ingredients and stir thorougly until you have a smooth batter, transfer into a lined 8-inch tin and bake in a preheated oven for 40 minutes at 170C (330F), then turn the oven down to 150C (300F) and bake for another 30 minutes.

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