# James Otto Sweet Heart and Damning Suicides to Hell **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 19, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764 "2013-02-19T03:08:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/181 "2013-02-20T00:26:03Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > Holly, > > I’m reaching out to you here because I feel like God sent you to help me, to this message board. You see, I’m gay and I know it’s a sin because the Bible says so… but I really deeply love my boyfriend and would do anything in the world to stay together with him. What should I do? I can’t just stop loving my boyfriend so if I have to stop being with him because when he fucks the shit out of me we are committing sin, I think I’d probably kill myself from depression… which as you’ve laid out is also a sin. What should I do? And please don’t tell me to go talk to a pastor or find a church in my area… I’ve tried that before with absolutely no success. I know that only YOU have the answer for me! > > God bless you and James always! :):)🙂 > > Drew If you really are looking for some advice, swearing is another thing that God does not smile down on. All that I can tell you is that it is best to just go by what the Lord says and he says that going with your own gender is an abomination. God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 HOlly ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/182 "2013-02-20T00:33:40Z")
Actually, God never said that. Men said that, claiming it was in his name. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/183 "2013-02-20T00:35:48Z")
^^^ The Lord said it whether people believe it or not. God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/184 "2013-02-20T00:38:36Z")
\< knocks on wood passing for brains \> He really wasn’t looking for advice, but you know that. As I said, your Pollyanna routine is a little less evident in other places. I wonder why you take the gloves off there and here you want us to believe you’re a total idiot? Just doin’ the Lord’s work, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/185 "2013-02-20T00:38:56Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > If you really are looking for some advice, swearing is another thing that God does not smile down on. All that I can tell you is that it is best to just go by what the Lord says and he says that going with your own gender is an abomination. > > God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 > > HOlly But why is “going with your own gender” an abomination if it feels SO good, and I love him SO much? Why would God put the genuine love in my heart and in his if he didn’t want us to be together? How can we “just go by what the Lord says” if he is making it so purposefully hard??? If I have to stop spending my life with him I will be so miserable I will just want to die! Trust me, I’ve been there! God bless you always HOlly!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 DRew ---
**Author:** ![Capt\_Kirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Capt\_Kirk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt_Kirk)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/186 "2013-02-20T00:39:14Z")
Dear God hope you got the letter and I think you can make it better down here… **Capt** My apologies to XTC ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/187 "2013-02-20T00:39:40Z")
Nope, it was men whether you want to believe it or not. Heh. We can play this back and forth game all night. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/188 "2013-02-20T00:45:40Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > But why is “going with your own gender” an abomination if it feels SO good, and I love him SO much? Why would God put the genuine love in my heart and in his if he didn’t want us to be together? How can we “just go by what the Lord says” if he is making it so purposefully hard??? If I have to stop spending my life with him I will be so miserable I will just want to die! Trust me, I’ve been there! > > God bless you always HOlly!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 > > DRew The Lord didn’t put them feelings there, but he did give you the ability to make the choices that you make. That is why he died for us, but I don’t believe that he died so that we could go against his rules. God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly P.S. Its pretty much the way that it is everywhere else. If you go against a law, you get punished. Well that is how it is with the Lord too and if you continue to break a law, the punishment will only get bigger. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/189 "2013-02-20T00:46:05Z")
Jesus said no such thing. Nor is it directly attributed to God. And let’s rule out anything in Leviticus straight away unless you tell me that you keep the Law of Moses in it’s entirety. So then, in the NT, just who said this? ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/190 "2013-02-20T00:48:14Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Says she’s in Tennessee. That could explain a lot. Hey! I’M in Tennessee. Of course I am open about being a jerk, but still. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/191 "2013-02-20T00:50:49Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Jesus said no such thing. Nor is it directly attributed to God. > > And let’s rule out anything in Leviticus straight away unless you tell me that you keep the Law of Moses in it’s entirety. So then, in the NT, just who said this? Look up Romans 1:24-32. God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/192 "2013-02-20T00:52:46Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > I can’t be offended by this chick, no matter what she says. It’s too damned surreal. > > Now, if you’ll excuse me, I need to go and hide in Ewan McGregor’s garage. Yeah, I almost didn’t read this because I recently had someone very very close to me commit suicide. But she is such a stupid bitch, it didn’t bother me. I want to officially thank everyone who called her out though. Being in the middle of dealing with the aftermath, it meant a lot to me. It’s _astonishing_ what people will say, even as you’re sobbing with grief. There isn’t a god, but a loving god would be ashamed of someone like JOSH. If you take your own life, you’ve been suffering in a true hell for a very long time. There’s no way an omnipotent, all-loving being would see that and then cast someone into a lake of fire. The god of the bible might, I guess, but he’s a dick anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/193 "2013-02-20T00:53:49Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > Look up Romans 1:24-32. > > God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 > > Holly Jesus did not write the book of Romans, Holly. The book of Romans was written by the Apostle Paul. Jesus did not write anything that we have a record of. For you to assert otherwise reveals you as either painfully ignorant or a deliberate liar. Which is it? ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/194 "2013-02-20T00:54:47Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > Look up Romans 1:24-32. > > God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 > > Holly Holly, If God gave me the ability to make my own choices, how come I can’t just choose to stop loving my boyfriend, break up with him, and then happily marry a woman and have lots of babies? God bless you and straight folk always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Drew ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/195 "2013-02-20T00:56:00Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > I live in between two other houses. There isn’t a dirt spot around here. Are you talking about your taint now? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/196 "2013-02-20T00:56:21Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > Look up Romans 1:24-32. Have you ever bothered to read the rest of Romans and consider how it applied to you, not just to other people? ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/197 "2013-02-20T00:57:57Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > Yeah, I almost didn’t read this because I recently had someone very very close to me commit suicide. But she is such a stupid bitch, it didn’t bother me. +1. Hang in there, **miss e**. I’m assuming that at some point you stop feeling impelled to try to argue the loved one out of it retroactively. 😉 ☹ ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/198 "2013-02-20T01:00:57Z")
**miss elizabeth** , I’m so very sorry for your loss. I can’t imagine how difficult it is losing someone that close to you to suicide, but I can imagine the idiotic, hateful ways that people judge. That’s why I had to pit this sanctimonious twat. I’m sorry someone like her and her zeal to up her crowns in heaven, blather her pithy, moronic words that make your situation worse. I hope your loved one is at peace now and that you find solace. Hugs. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/199 "2013-02-20T01:04:56Z")
I wish we could open up the forbidden word vault just once. I’m usually a live and let live guy. I don’t care what others believe. But this bitch makes me want to channel the spirit of Der Trihs. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/200 "2013-02-20T01:21:19Z")
**James Otto Sweet Heart** is an anagram for **Tote Sweet Toe Jam Rash** …just sayin’ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=11)