# James Otto Sweet Heart and Damning Suicides to Hell **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 19, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764 "2013-02-19T03:08:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Jungian\_Camisole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8baadc/32.png) [@Jungian\_Camisole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jungian_Camisole)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/201 "2013-02-20T01:22:52Z")
I’m only on page two, but it’s batshit dingleberries like Holly that made me lose any attachment to religion. If any god is that hateful that he/she would punish anyone who is hurting and is obviously not in their right mind, then I want no part of it. ---
**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/202 "2013-02-20T01:36:11Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > Holly, > > If God gave me the ability to make my own choices, how come I can’t just choose to stop loving my boyfriend, break up with him, and then happily marry a woman and have lots of babies? > > God bless you and straight folk always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 > > Drew Maybe because he’s the only one who can put up with your cheesy feet and the fact that you eat pistachios in bed? I dunno, I’m reaching here. BTW, something which has been bugging me in every flapping thread JOSH has posted in, even more so than the sanctimony, the Kathy Bates-ish tendencies, and the fact that she’s used more smiley faces in a few months than the average poster uses in a decade: This thing? That we’re posting in? The thing with the words that was made in your “honor”? It’s called a THREAD, smoochums, i.e a series of posts made on a message board forum, not a CHAT. CHAT is either the French word for cat or an online conversation carried out in real time. (Protip: it’s not exactly an “honor” when people gather here in the pit to find creative ways of calling you a hypocritcal, judgemental, callous fucknoodle. Incidentally, it’s OK for me to call you fucknoodle because I’m a practicing Roman Catholic and we believe in the forgiveness of sins, so surely my pal Jesus can forgive a little thing like calling a spade a heartless bitchcake.) God bless you and all other sanctimonious merkins always!!!🙂 🙂 🙂 (I’m 36 and a virgin, so I can say shit like that because of my lily-pure virtue, dontcha know.) ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/203 "2013-02-20T01:39:46Z")
The bottom line for you people is that if you do not like that I have the right to stand where I choose to I stand on anything, ignore me or find somewhere else to be because I will change for no one. Why should I anyways? Y’all have made it as clear as glass that you won’t do any changing either, so why ask anyone else to? God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/204 "2013-02-20T01:42:00Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > The bottom line for you people is that if you do not like that I have the right to stand where I choose to I stand on anything, ignore me or find somewhere else to be because I will change for no one. Why should I anyways? Y’all have made it as clear as glass that you won’t do any changing either, so why ask anyone else to? > > God bless you always!!! > > Holly In a post where Holly says she will not change, she doesn’t post her patented 🙂 🙂 :). Is this some sort of meta-irony or what!? ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/205 "2013-02-20T01:44:14Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > I will change for no one. Not eve…ahh forget it. ---
**Author:** ![LouLou7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@LouLou7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouLou7)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/206 "2013-02-20T01:48:36Z")
> [@Beastly\_Rotter](#): > > Those thoughts you have about James at night, Holly? Satan put them there. You could turn from the Adversary and to our Father, but you choose to nurture those unclean, sinful desires, thinking they go unseen. God sees all, Holly, God judges all, and he is judging you now. Turn from your sin and shame now, spurn the blandishments of Satan, put all secret thoughts of James Otto from your heart and fall to your knees before God and beg forgiveness. Repent, I urge you. AMEN BROTHER!!! _now leaving before you pass the collection plate_ 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Capt\_Kirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Capt\_Kirk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt_Kirk)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/207 "2013-02-20T01:49:57Z")
Wow no smilies, seems like someone is a little butthurt Holly, What you fail to realize here is that Jesus was a kind and loving guy. You know compassionate. Read your NT again and skip all the dogma, read about the Man himself after you do that and assuming you are not a sociopath, you would never say what got you pitted in the first place because he would not. Atheist who has actually read the book in question **Capt** ETA “love the sinner not the sin” ---
**Author:** ![Jungian\_Camisole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8baadc/32.png) [@Jungian\_Camisole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jungian_Camisole)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/208 "2013-02-20T01:51:02Z")
As an aside, I am Internet Marrying **Beastly Rotter** and having 100 of his or her Internet Babbies. ---
**Author:** ![LouLou7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@LouLou7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouLou7)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/209 "2013-02-20T01:53:58Z")
> [@Beastly\_Rotter](#): > > You sicken me, Jezebel. Other women are doing it, is that your justification? Other harlots, Holly, other strumpets, throwing themselves at a man with a wife and child, seeking to split a loving family asunder with their base wiles. Count yourself among their number, Holly, and weep and gnash your teeth when you are cast down with them. An eternity without God, Holly, that is what your shameless filth dooms you to. PREACH ON, BROTHAH MAN!!! Repent, Holly!!! REPENT BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE!!! _lifting hands to heaven_ :eek: ---
**Author:** ![LouLou7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@LouLou7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouLou7)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/210 "2013-02-20T01:56:07Z")
> [@Beastly\_Rotter](#): > > 3/ For the lips of a loose woman drip honey, and her speech is smoother than oil; > > 4/ but in the end she is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a two-edged sword. > > 5/ Her feet go down to death; her steps follow the path to Sheol; > > 6/ she does not take heed to the path of life; her ways wander, and she does not know it. > > Proverbs 5: 3-6 > > Repent, wanton. OMG!!! REPENT YOU SLUT!!! _rolls around on the floor, waving arms_ ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/211 "2013-02-20T01:56:42Z")
> [@Capt\_Kirk](#): > > Wow no smilies, seems like someone is a little butthurt > > Holly, > What you fail to realize here is that Jesus was a kind and loving guy. You know compassionate. Read your NT again and skip all the dogma, read about the Man himself after you do that and assuming you are not a sociopath, you would never say what got you pitted in the first place because he would not. > > Atheist who has actually read the book in question > > **Capt** > > ETA “love the sinner not the sin” Like I said, if you don’t like what my beliefs are, you don’t have to continue to talk to me, here. A gun isn’t be held to your head forcing you to have anything to do with me…no pun intended since the subject of suicide is how this whole matter started in the first place. God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/212 "2013-02-20T01:56:44Z")
After reading JOSH’s posts in [this off-board thread,](http://blog.gactv.com/blog/2011/03/03/james-otto-warner-bros-nashville-part-ways/)I cant find much humor in engaging her anymore. I think she’s quite ill, and possibly dangerous. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/213 "2013-02-20T01:58:11Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > Yeah, I almost didn’t read this because I recently had someone very very close to me commit suicide. But she is such a stupid bitch, it didn’t bother me. > > I want to officially thank everyone who called her out though. Being in the middle of dealing with the aftermath, it meant a lot to me. It’s _astonishing_ what people will say, even as you’re sobbing with grief. > > There isn’t a god, but a loving god would be ashamed of someone like JOSH. If you take your own life, you’ve been suffering in a true hell for a very long time. There’s no way an omnipotent, all-loving being would see that and then cast someone into a lake of fire. The god of the bible might, I guess, but he’s a dick anyway. Shit, I’m sorry. _hugs_ ---
**Author:** ![LouLou7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@LouLou7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouLou7)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/214 "2013-02-20T01:59:21Z")
> [@Beastly\_Rotter](#): > > 18/ Let your fountain be blessed, and rejoice in the wife of your youth, > > 19/ a lovely hind, a graceful doe. Let her affection fill you at all times with delight, be infatuated always with her love. > > 20/ Why should you be infatuated, my son, with a loose woman and embrace the bosom of an adventuress? > > 21/ For a man’s ways are before the eyes of the LORD, and he watches all his paths. > > 22/ The iniquities of the wicked ensnare him, and he is caught in the toils of his sin. > > Proverbs 5: 18-22 > > Whore! Strumpet! Brazen jade! YES!! YES!! PRAISE THE LAWD!!! HALLELUJAH!!! _running for the rattlesnakes to pass around_ ---
**Author:** ![Jungian\_Camisole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8baadc/32.png) [@Jungian\_Camisole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jungian_Camisole)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/215 "2013-02-20T02:03:07Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > Holly, > > I’m reaching out to you here because I feel like God sent you to help me, to this message board. You see, I’m gay and I know it’s a sin because the Bible says so… but I really deeply love my boyfriend and would do anything in the world to stay together with him. What should I do? I can’t just stop loving my boyfriend so if I have to stop being with him because when he fucks the shit out of me we are committing sin, I think I’d probably kill myself from depression… which as you’ve laid out is also a sin. What should I do? And please don’t tell me to go talk to a pastor or find a church in my area… I’ve tried that before with absolutely no success. I know that only YOU have the answer for me! > > God bless you and James always! :):)🙂 > > Drew Go forth and play some more. _Sign of the cross, peace sign, hook 'em horns!_ ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/216 "2013-02-20T02:05:15Z")
^^^ No thank you…whatever that is. > [@Bob Ducca](#): > > After reading JOSH’s posts in [this off-board thread,](http://blog.gactv.com/blog/2011/03/03/james-otto-warner-bros-nashville-part-ways/)I cant find much humor in engaging her anymore. I think she’s quite ill, and possibly dangerous. What you find there was almost two YEARS ago, not days, weeks, or months, and if you start from the beginning, you will see that **I was attacked first**. Why should I have sat there and let others have their way with me? God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![Beastly\_Rotter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@Beastly\_Rotter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beastly_Rotter)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/217 "2013-02-20T02:09:34Z")
And James Otto is Jetsam Too. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/218 "2013-02-20T02:10:10Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > After reading JOSH’s posts in [this off-board thread,](http://blog.gactv.com/blog/2011/03/03/james-otto-warner-bros-nashville-part-ways/)I cant find much humor in engaging her anymore. I think she’s quite ill, and possibly dangerous. Oh wow. You’re right. She thinks he actually told her, “I love you.” Well, I’ve had my fun and I’m not going to feel bad about it… but yeah, I guess the show’s over for me. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/219 "2013-02-20T02:10:32Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > After reading JOSH’s posts in [this off-board thread,](http://blog.gactv.com/blog/2011/03/03/james-otto-warner-bros-nashville-part-ways/)I cant find much humor in engaging her anymore. I think she’s quite ill, and possibly dangerous. Hm. Agreed. Doubt she’ll last long around here anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/220 "2013-02-20T02:11:01Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > After reading JOSH’s posts in [this off-board thread,](http://blog.gactv.com/blog/2011/03/03/james-otto-warner-bros-nashville-part-ways/)I cant find much humor in engaging her anymore. I think she’s quite ill, and possibly dangerous. I checked that link out and you are right. Holly sounds as if she is psychotic, and I wouldn’t say _possibly_ dangerous but _really_ dangerous. The veiled threats were chilling. I’m sorry for the singer, to have someone like this dogging his career and the media associated with him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=12)