# James Otto Sweet Heart and Damning Suicides to Hell **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 19, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764 "2013-02-19T03:08:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Capt\_Kirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Capt\_Kirk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt_Kirk)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/221 "2013-02-20T02:15:55Z")
* * * > [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > Like I said, if you don’t like what my beliefs are, you don’t have to continue to talk to me, here. A gun isn’t be held to your head forcing you to have anything to do with me…no pun intended since the subject of suicide is how this whole matter started in the first place. > > God bless you always!!! > > Holly Hold em up here, you claim to be a Christian. How can you justify your actions and be a follower of Jesus? You did a horrible and hateful thing, have you asked for forgiveness? “let he who is without sin cast the first stone” **Capt** ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/222 "2013-02-20T02:16:59Z")
^^^ Why should I be sorry for standing up for what I believe in? > [@drewtwo99](#): > > She thinks he actually told her, “I love you.” James **did** say “I love you.” to me. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > [@MsWhatsit](#): > > Doubt she’ll last long around here anyway. That is up to who is in charge of this place. God bless you two and them and James always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly P.S. Yeah James actually said “I love you.” to me and to be honest I wasn’t expecting it. 🙂 🙂 🙂 Yes, I said “I love you too.” in return. 🙂 🙂 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/223 "2013-02-20T02:17:52Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > Why should I have sat there and let others have their way with me? > > God bless you always!!! > > Holly 'Cause your God said to turn the other cheek? What exactly do you think that means? ---
**Author:** ![Beastly\_Rotter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@Beastly\_Rotter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beastly_Rotter)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/224 "2013-02-20T02:18:07Z")
Slattern. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/225 "2013-02-20T02:22:46Z")
You don’t love James Otto. You don’t even know him. And what you know of him is not nearly enough to know you love him. James Otto knows even less about you than what you know about him, and what he does know of you, he knows you are an obsessive fan. He does not love you. He did not tell you he loves you. He would never tell you he loves you. And you do not love him. I think you should talk to your pastor about this and ask for his guidance on what he thinks God would want for you to do from now on with respect to Mr. Otto. I also think you need to firmly reassess what the word love means. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/226 "2013-02-20T02:28:32Z")
^^^ James did say “I love you.” to me, whether you believe it or not. > [@Zakalwe](#): > > 'Cause your God said to turn the other cheek? What exactly do you think that means? I don’t believe that the Lord died for us so that people could have their way with others. God bless you and James always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/227 "2013-02-20T02:30:40Z")
OK, literally every single Google link that I could find that led to a page where James Otto was mentioned and comments were enabled, our resident stalker was there in the comments, harassing anyone who said anything even marginally negative about the object of her obsession. This is beyond creepy. ---
**Author:** ![Beastly\_Rotter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@Beastly\_Rotter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beastly_Rotter)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/228 "2013-02-20T02:31:23Z")
Trull. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/229 "2013-02-20T02:33:42Z")
^^^ The word is spelled T-R-O-L-L. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > [@MsWhatsit](#): > > OK, literally every single Google link that I could find that led to a page where James Otto was mentioned and comments were enabled, our resident stalker was there in the comments, harassing anyone who said anything even marginally negative about the object of her obsession. > > This is beyond creepy. As long as I have a right to say something in return, I will. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you and James always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly ---
**Author:** ![Capt\_Kirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Capt\_Kirk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt_Kirk)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/230 "2013-02-20T02:35:04Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ > I don’t believe that the Lord died for us so that people could have their way with others. > > Holly What does that mean? And seriously, do you not understand that Jesus was not a spewer of hate and vitrol? How can you justify what you said that got you pitted and still call yourself a follower of “The Prince of Peace”? **Capt** ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/231 "2013-02-20T02:35:31Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > P.S. Yeah James actually said “I love you.” to me and to be honest I wasn’t expecting it. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > > Yes, I said “I love you too.” in return. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God saw what you did to yourself that night. He saw and you did not ask for forgiveness. I hope you enjoy the eternal flames, you grisette, you trull, you quean. ---
**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/232 "2013-02-20T02:36:40Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > Yeah, I almost didn’t read this because I recently had someone very very close to me commit suicide. But she is such a stupid bitch, it didn’t bother me. > > I want to officially thank everyone who called her out though. Being in the middle of dealing with the aftermath, it meant a lot to me. It’s _astonishing_ what people will say, even as you’re sobbing with grief. > > There isn’t a god, but a loving god would be ashamed of someone like JOSH. If you take your own life, you’ve been suffering in a true hell for a very long time. There’s no way an omnipotent, all-loving being would see that and then cast someone into a lake of fire. The god of the bible might, I guess, but he’s a dick anyway. Wow, this remind me of something I hadn’t thought of in a while. When I was a teenager and heavily involved in church and the youth group, our friend hung herself. When our youth pastor found out and was talking to all us kids about it, he said “and now she’s in hell and the devil is laughing at her”. :eek: Can you imagine saying that to a group of kids who just lost a friend to suicide?? ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/233 "2013-02-20T02:37:58Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > After reading JOSH’s posts in [this off-board thread,](http://blog.gactv.com/blog/2011/03/03/james-otto-warner-bros-nashville-part-ways/)I cant find much humor in engaging her anymore. I think she’s quite ill, and possibly dangerous. Ya think??? ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/234 "2013-02-20T02:41:43Z")
> [@Beastly\_Rotter](#): > > Slattern. Yes, an utter strumpet.\* Or a nutter strumpet, perhaps. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/235 "2013-02-20T02:43:09Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > There are unfortunately some self-proclaimed Christians who will be disappointed in Heaven if they get there and find out that everybody gets it and nobody is sent to Hell. As a slow convert to Christianity ( by way of Judaism and Quakerism ), I might offer this. People who believe what that person believes will wind up in an eternity of their own construct. If there is a sense of eternal Justice, then their Hell will be thinking they wound up in the righteusly deserved Heaven, surrounded by those not worthy. By their standards. And since humans die on this planet at an alarming rate per hour, that person’s Hell will be revisiting the UNworthiness of all of those who wind up in their percieved Heaven. Putz. I am continuously appalled at the behaviors of “Christians” that are so UnChristian. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Beastly\_Rotter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@Beastly\_Rotter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beastly_Rotter)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/236 "2013-02-20T02:43:25Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ The word is spelled T-R-O-L-L. 🙂 🙂 🙂 [How To Increase Your Word Power.](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/trull) Hoyden. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/237 "2013-02-20T02:45:48Z")
> [@Capt\_Kirk](#): > > What does that mean? > > And seriously, do you not understand that Jesus was not a spewer of hate and vitrol? How can you justify what you said that got you pitted and still call yourself a follower of “The Prince of Peace”? > > **Capt** It means that the Lord didn’t die so that we could be attacked by other people. He died so that we could decide for ourselves how we want to live. And what got me “pitted” are my beliefs and if they get me “pitted” at other forums, oh well. I am not changing them. If you are not going to change yours, don’t go expecting other people to change the ones that they have. > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > God saw what you did to yourself that night. He saw and you did not ask for forgiveness. I hope you enjoy the eternal flames, you grisette, you trull, you quean. There wasn’t anything wrong with me telling him “I love you too.” in return. The Lord does say to love everyone does he not. Even if he didn’t, I wouldn’t tell someone to go suck an egg after they said “I love you.” to me. God bless you two and James always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/238 "2013-02-20T02:48:49Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > It means that the Lord didn’t die so that we could be attacked by other people. He died so that we could decide for ourselves how we want to live. Do you not see the Mac-truck sized irony in this statement? ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/239 "2013-02-20T02:49:24Z")
Holly, I really think you should seek guidance from your church pastor or fellowship. I think you should show them your online history, including the posts on this thread and every other Otto-related article or forum. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/240 "2013-02-20T02:50:02Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > The Lord didn’t put them feelings there, but he did give you the ability to make the choices that you make. That is why he died for us, but I don’t believe that he died so that we could go against his rules. > > God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 > > Holly > > P.S. Its pretty much the way that it is everywhere else. If you go against a law, you get punished. Well that is how it is with the Lord too and if you continue to break a law, the punishment will only get bigger. Are you sure? I like the idea of a Jesus who died so that **Drew** could roger his boyfriend up the bum. God bless your bumhole always!!! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=13)