# James Otto Sweet Heart and Damning Suicides to Hell **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 19, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764 "2013-02-19T03:08:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/301 "2013-02-20T11:14:00Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > Ah, see I was objecting to **faithfool** ’s cruel suggestion that we impose her upon _them_. The WBC has done some evil in their time, but they don’t deserve to have Holly foisted upon them. No one does. > > You’re looking at it from the other direction? o.k., I can see where you’re coming from. Still, I think the WBC comes off worse in the deal. Well, they might take her. Given all the young people that have left in the last few years they need breeding material. There’s a guy, Jack Wu, who moved all the way from California to join the church, he’s young and probably needs a baby-maker. Plus a few other younger men who are likely so desperate for “relief” they’d take Holly. Wonder what a crossbreed like that would turn out to be? ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/302 "2013-02-20T11:15:42Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > Ah, see I was objecting to **faithfool** ’s cruel suggestion that we impose her upon _them_. The WBC has done some evil in their time, but they don’t deserve to have Holly foisted upon them. No one does. > > You’re looking at it from the other direction? o.k., I can see where you’re coming from. Still, I think the WBC comes off worse in the deal. Okay, I agree with that. WBC would definitely stare at her brow looking for lobotomy stitches. Then slam the door on her. 😃 Still, this woman has to maybe redirect herself, or something towards a mundane subject. Stamp collecting, perhaps. Worshipping an upside-down airplane is less traumatic to others like wannabe country stars who probably have plenty of young and sexy, strumpets/starlets/whores stalking them. I’m guessing that JOSH has had simultaneous conversations with Jesus and James about her personal future with both of these men (fantasies) in her life. And I really find it repulsive that JOSH thinks a gay relationship is an abomination because “God said it was”. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Beyond fucking typical. “Judge not lest ye be judged,” doesn’t go very far with her. Why be surprised at her? The more devout, the bigger the shithead. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/303 "2013-02-20T11:29:03Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Still, this woman has to maybe redirect herself, or something towards a mundane subject. Stamp collecting, perhaps. Hasn’t she already said that she won’t do philately until she’s married? ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/304 "2013-02-20T11:33:53Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > Hasn’t she already said that she won’t do philately until she’s married? HA! See what you did there.. or as\*\* JOSH\*\* would fucking say: :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D ---
**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/305 "2013-02-20T12:57:58Z")
Officially my favorite pitting ever. The more oblivious the pittee, the more hilarious the results. :D:D:D ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/306 "2013-02-20T14:39:56Z")
> [@leftfield6](#): > > Officially my favorite pitting ever. The more oblivious the pittee, the more hilarious the results. > > :D:D:D Sorry to rain on your pot but feigning ignorance is pretty standard for trolls. Sweaty Hog may be a special kind of troll in that she’s not just a prankster but quite possibly mentally unstable. She’s ruining the fragile career of some B list singer while getting tons of attention. It’s hard to say whether the attention is ALL that she really wants or if she thinks that somehow it will draw James Otto closer to her by appearing to be steadfastly loyal to him. You gotta feel sorry for James Otto no matter what. It’s tough enough to make it in the music world as it is without some batshit crazy bitch following you around convincing people to stay away from your music. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/307 "2013-02-20T14:41:16Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Still, this woman has to maybe redirect herself, or something towards a mundane subject. Stamp collecting, perhaps. > [@bienville](#): > > Hasn’t she already said that she won’t do philately until she’s married? > [@Locrian](#): > > HA! See what you did there.. or as\*\* JOSH\*\* would fucking say: :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D TBH, I don’t think she would. V V V V V 'Cos of this. V V V V V > [@leftfield6](#): > > Officially my favorite pitting ever. The more oblivious the pittee, the more hilarious the results. > > :D:D:D ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/308 "2013-02-20T14:44:01Z")
This thread moved really fast, but I want to thank everyone for their kind words. It really means a lot. ---
**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/309 "2013-02-20T14:52:46Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > There’s only one way that you can prove to me that you are him. What are the things that I gave to you the last time that I saw you? 🙂 🙂 🙂 Human fingers? Looking at some of James Otto’s tweets, he seems to talk a bit about drinking…and Greco-Roman wrestling (seriously). I’m not sure you two have anything in common. He likes whiskey, and watching sweaty, muscular men grab and hold each other, and you like Jesus. ---
**Author:** ![Razncain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@Razncain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Razncain)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/310 "2013-02-20T15:25:15Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ So you are saying that if a person was trying to rape me, I should just sit there and let them do it? I don’t think so. This was in response to someone asking you how you felt about Jesus’ saying not to resist evil. You further commented: > [@](#): > > The good thing is that God would never ask of me such a thing. The book of Deuteronomy in the 22nd chapter starting with about the 13th verse has some interesting verses concerning sex. Verses 23-29 will give you three specific cases of rape, and what should be done to both the rapist and the victim. It seems to come down to if the woman cried out loud enough, and also whether or not the woman was engaged or not. If you were a virgin and were engaged to your husband, but another man found you in the city and raped you, both you and the rapist shall be stoned to death. Why did the woman get stoned to death too? The best I can make of it was because they figured she didn’t cry out loud enough for someone to hear them in the city. If another woman is raped outside the city, that changes things, and only the rapist shall die. It says because the woman cried out, and there was none to save her. If a man finds a woman that is a virgin that is not engaged, but goes ahead and rapes her, and they be found out and caught in the act, all the man has to do is give the woman’s father fifty shekels of silver; she then becomes his wife and he is not permitted to divorce her. Lucky her. In the book of Numbers, after Moses says to kill every male, female and children, but all of the young girls that were still virgins, they could keep for themselves. You don’t need much of an imagination to guess what they were going to do with them, do you? There are similar scriptures in the book of Judges, where men are instructed to go hide out in the vineyard and wait for young women to be passing by so that they could capture them and take home to be their wives. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/311 "2013-02-20T15:30:55Z")
Rise and shine, people! Did you have a good sleep? I did. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly P.S. I’m still not giving into you people by the way. Not when I am too proud of where I stand on things. 🙂 🙂 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/312 "2013-02-20T15:36:58Z")
“Too proud” is definitely the right phrase you were looking for. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/313 "2013-02-20T15:37:14Z")
Pride is a sin.:):)🙂 God bless you always!!!:):)🙂 ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/314 "2013-02-20T15:42:40Z")
^^^ Not when you are standing for what is right, but go ahead and think what you want because I know that you will. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly ---
**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/315 "2013-02-20T15:46:38Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ Not when you are standing for what is right, but go ahead and think what you want because I know that you will. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > > God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 > > Holly But we think what we are standing for is right, and we are proud…kind of a conundrum. God Screwed You All Ways :):)🙂 ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/316 "2013-02-20T15:47:07Z")
^^^ There for you people are hypocrites for jumping on me in the first place. > [@Locrian](#): > > As far as your James Otto worship goes (which is clearly stronger than your worship in a god, because we can fact check J.O.), have you ever tried some other genres of music besides country rock? Stones? Beatles? James Brown? Ray Charles? And if Otto didn’t sing any songs about Jesus anymore, would you still worship him? What if you found out he was atheist and only sang about Jesus to sell records? I love James no matter what you suggested and I thank the Lord every day for putting him in my picture. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you and James always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly P.S. Outside of country, I love Hall & Oates and Huey Lewis & The News. God bless them always too!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/317 "2013-02-20T15:55:29Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ Not when you are standing for what is right, but go ahead and think what you want because I know that you will. 🙂 🙂 🙂 Really? “In his pride the wicked does not seek him; in all his thoughts there is no room for God.” Psalm 10:4 “Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall. Better to be lowly in spirit and among the oppressed than to share plunder with the proud.” Proverbs 16:18-19 ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/318 "2013-02-20T15:58:34Z")
^^^ Thanks for the verses, but I am still not walking away from what I believe in. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/319 "2013-02-20T16:00:18Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ Thanks for the verses, but I am still not walking away from what I believe in. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > > God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 > > Holly But what you believe in contradicts your actions making you bad in your God’s eyes. Quite the conundrum. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/320 "2013-02-20T16:04:56Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ There for you people are hypocrites for jumping on me in the first place. > I love James no matter what you suggested and \*\*I thank the Lord every day for putting him in my picture. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > \*\* > God bless you and James always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 > > Holly > > P.S. Outside of country, I love Hall & Oates and Huey Lewis & The News. God bless them always too!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Shouldn’t you be thanking Nikon? Or did the Bible say that’s not Canon? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=17)