# James Otto Sweet Heart and Damning Suicides to Hell **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 19, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764 "2013-02-19T03:08:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/21 "2013-02-19T07:43:03Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > There are unfortunately some self-proclaimed Christians who will be disappointed in Heaven if they get there and find out that everybody gets it and nobody is sent to Hell. Historically, I understand that one of the pleasures of Heaven was watching the torture of the damned in Hell. Christianity has a strong sadistic component. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/22 "2013-02-19T08:02:31Z")
Oops, there goes the thread. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/23 "2013-02-19T08:32:39Z")
> [@Malacandra](#): > > Oops, there goes the thread. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/24 "2013-02-19T08:39:08Z")
Congratulations, **James Otto Sweetheart** : At this moment, a Google search for “James Otto” “Mindy McCready” brings up this Thread on the very first page. When I searched to see if James Otto had made any public comment about McCready’s death, I didn’t think at first to just find his Twitter account. Instead, what I did was I Googled “James Otto” “Mindy McCready”. Right now, if any James Otto fans find themselves wondering “Gee, I wonder if James has said anything about Mindy McCready” should they then do a Google search they will, on the very first page of results, be greeted with **James Otto Sweet Heart and Damning Suicides to Hell**. James Otto’s publicist fucking _LOVES_ you right now. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/25 "2013-02-19T09:00:03Z")
Oooh! This Thread is actually _the THIRD result_ for “James Otto” “Mindy McCready” as a Bing search. Sixth result on Google. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/26 "2013-02-19T09:01:27Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > **James Otto Sweetheart** Just like so many other extremist Fundamentalists, that particular poster can’t spell worth a hoot. The user name is actually _James Otto Sweet Heart_. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/27 "2013-02-19T09:03:24Z")
Ah, thanks **Monty**. Apologies to **James Otto Sweet Heart**. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/28 "2013-02-19T09:16:09Z")
Everything I have to say has been said. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/29 "2013-02-19T09:19:16Z")
Very glad someone is pitting Holly, aka James Otto Sweet whatever. Every post in cafe society ends with “God bless you always !!!” This is entirely offensive. If someone feels it necessary to inflict the “blessings” of a god upon me, they should fuck themselves and realize it’s not so nice to everyone who hears it, ESPECIALLY if they mean Yahweh or Jehovah. I don’t want fictional blessings from a man-made and invisible, amoral being. A good lesson for believers like her is to understand tolerance-- a concept unheard of in many sheep flocks. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/30 "2013-02-19T09:28:42Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Historically, I understand that one of the pleasures of Heaven was watching the torture of the damned in Hell. Christianity has a strong sadistic component. Fully agreed. There’s a big love for torture who are “not among us”. (The poor English continues. No surprise.) Schandenfreude is why religion survives. “Oooh, look! Someone who denied scripture is burning! Let’s watch and laugh.” ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/31 "2013-02-19T11:24:52Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Just like so many other extremist Fundamentalists, that particular poster can’t spell worth a hoot. The user name is actually _James Otto Sweet Heart_. Huh. And all this time I thought her name was **James Otto Sweat Hog.** ---
**Author:** ![Ionizer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5daacb/32.png) [@Ionizer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ionizer)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/32 "2013-02-19T12:00:19Z")
And now this thread is an auto-suggestion showing as the second result. What a weirdo - from first result (in her bio data), under My 5 favorite books: My next 5 favorites are Darryl Worley, Brad Paisley, Toby Keith, Kenny Chesney, & Hal Ketchum. Talk about obsession with country music, huh? ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/33 "2013-02-19T12:10:58Z")
> [@Ionizer](#): > > And now this thread is an auto-suggestion showing as the second result. Yeah, I don’t imagine there are a ton of people doing searches for the two of them together but I’m sure there is a not insignificant overlap of fans. It’s not too crazy to imagine that with her recent death in mind some fans may be Googling to see what’s being said by other artists. Probably not at all a huge concern, still I’m sure that the man himself _really_ wouldn’t like the title of this Thread to show up in front of too many (or any at all) eyes. If I had made it my life’s mission to spread the word about my favorite artist, I would consider a result like this, however inadvertent, to be a major failure. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/34 "2013-02-19T12:50:19Z")
I’m gonna avoid taunting Holly for now. The last thing I need is that crazy bitch praying for me. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/35 "2013-02-19T13:11:06Z")
> [@splatterpunk](#): > > Yeah, seriously. Don’t let it get to you, **faithfool**. **James Otto Sweet Heart** has her own demons to wrestle with. I saw a picture of her taken with James Otto, and I swear he looked like she scared the living Bejesus out of him. > > Aside from that, I don’t know how anyone could read her posts on this board and not conclude that she’s clearly insane. I was going to ask for a link to that picture. Then I just decided to google “James Otto” and “Holly” and there was her twitter account. Check it out if you want to dip your toe in the crazy pool. She is the reason why entertainers have to hire security. ---
**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/36 "2013-02-19T13:29:17Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Check it out if you want to dip your toe in the crazy pool. She is the reason why entertainers have to hire security. Yep, I noticed that James Otto (whoever the fuck that is) is a follower of HER. Probably to keep an eye on the cra cra. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/37 "2013-02-19T13:45:59Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > there was her twitter account. Check it out if you want to dip your toe in the crazy pool. Ummm . . . wow. She actually responded to James Otto’s RIP message, a message that included “Prayers for her children & family”, she responded to this respectful RIP to declare it is “the Lord’s word” that people who commit suicide “WILL go down and not up” (all caps on “WILL”). ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/38 "2013-02-19T13:48:56Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I was going to ask for a link to that picture. Then I just decided to google “James Otto” and “Holly” and there was her twitter account. Check it out if you want to dip your toe in the crazy pool. She is the reason why entertainers have to hire security. Oh holy shit. ---
**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/39 "2013-02-19T14:16:45Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I was going to ask for a link to that picture. Then I just decided to google “James Otto” and “Holly” and there was her twitter account. Check it out if you want to dip your toe in the crazy pool. She is the reason why entertainers have to hire security. Holy crap! ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/40 "2013-02-19T14:33:49Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > Oooh! This Thread is actually _the THIRD result_ for “James Otto” “Mindy McCready” as a Bing search. > Sixth result on Google. For YOU. That’s because Google biases their search results based on your browsing history. Different people will get different results. Someone who has never read this board will not see this thead anywhere near the first page. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=3)