# James Otto Sweet Heart and Damning Suicides to Hell

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 19, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764 "2013-02-19T03:08:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/501 "2013-02-21T21:00:05Z")

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> [@PunditLisa](#):
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> Well, I’m sorry that I started this mess by saying that I was glad Mindy McCready’s torment was over. Had I known it would unleash the holy rolling happy-face barfer, I’d have just hushed on up.

Just accept the fact that Holly is right and that Mindy is being tormented in hell :):)🙂 for all eternity :):)🙂 because, you know, Jesus and stuff. :):)🙂

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/502 "2013-02-21T21:00:20Z")

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> [@living\_in\_hell](#):
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> ETA there’s a James Otto from a town called Holly Springs. 🙂

Theory:

James Otto, being a B list country singer, who has recently changed labels, is quite scared of losing his career (small as it is). He therefore creates an on line persona; A “#1 fan” and he uses this persona to spam every message board in creation.

It starts off being innocent enough - “just get some publicity” he thinks to himself.

By now though, it has become a full blown personality disorder, and he’s gone completely off his rocker.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/503 "2013-02-21T21:02:04Z")

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::Takes notes for world’s most boring airport novel ever::

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/504 "2013-02-21T21:04:07Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Your comment about Mindy McCready suffering in hell was off-topic and didn’t belong in that thread, and you ignored instructions from the mods two or three times.

I didn’t know that what I said was going to be labeled off topic. Also what instructions did I ignore? If I was told to be quiet and just let other people walk all over, I am not sorry for yanking the rug out from under whoever was standing on top of me because I am worth the defense just as much as any other person. :mad: :mad: :mad:

God bless you always!!!

Holly

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/505 "2013-02-21T21:10:20Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> I didn’t know that what I said was going to be labeled off topic.

I can tell. It shouldn’t been obvious.

> [@](#):
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> Also what instructions did I ignore?

The posts where I told you (and everyone else) to take the discussion of hell and suicide and religion into another forum. You weren’t told to let anybody walk all over you. Regardless of what you might think about having a right to post your opinion and defending yourself, if a moderator tells you to stop doing something, stop doing it. You agreed to that when you joined the board.

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**Author:** ![chacoguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@chacoguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chacoguy)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/506 "2013-02-21T21:12:02Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> **Another thing that I have the right to do is defend myself when I feel like I am being jumped on unfairly!** :mad: :mad: :mad:  
> Holly

> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ause I am worth the defense just as much as any other person. :mad: :mad: :mad:  
> Holly

Back the fuck up, we got a real baddass on our hands!

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/507 "2013-02-21T21:14:35Z")

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^^^ No I am just someone who doesn’t let other people get away with kicking me to the floor unfairly, nothing further.

> [@Marley23](#):
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> I can tell. It shouldn’t been obvious.
> 
> The posts where I told you (and everyone else) to take the discussion of hell and suicide and religion into another forum. You weren’t told to let anybody walk all over you. Regardless of what you might think about having a right to post your opinion and defending yourself, if a moderator tells you to stop doing something, stop doing it. You agreed to that when you joined the board.

I also remember you telling me and a few others that you were giving us one last warning about going off subject in that chat which I told you that I forgot and that I was sorry that I forgot, but you never said to quit talking about it period. The off subject conversation was then carried over to where we are now by someone else here, whoever started this chat that is.

God bless you two and them always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂

Holly

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/508 "2013-02-21T21:15:23Z")

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> [@Pixiesnix](#):
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> I just looked at her twitter page and saw this:
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> > [@](#):
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> > @jamesotto James, the clip that I found of U today was so good that I had 2 share it! So far I have it up at 52 messages forums! (hug) GBYA!
> 
> Wowsa.

52? Geez, I only found 17. But she’s not obsessive. Nope.

I bet the majority of the people on all 52 of those boards think Holly is irritating. But I guess everyone else in the world is wrong and she’s right, right?

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**Author:** ![living\_in\_hell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@living\_in\_hell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/living_in_hell)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/509 "2013-02-21T21:19:59Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> ::Takes notes for world’s most boring airport novel ever::

Hint: if the cover is embossed and/or in two parts (like with a cutaway) you know it’s gunna be craptastic.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/510 "2013-02-21T21:22:03Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> you never said to quit talking about it period.

I did. Twice. That thread was for people who wanted to talk about Mindy McCready- maybe her music and her life, not whether she’s burning in hell forever. You had help, but you did a pretty good job of ruining that. I did tell you you could keep talking about this stuff in the right forum (like this thread), but you only got the message after three reminders. The point is: don’t do that next time.

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/511 "2013-02-21T21:22:10Z")

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^^^ I believe that it was only two and the second one is the one that I said that I was sorry that you had to give me because I forgot about the first one. I believe that was my final message in the chat. 🙂 🙂 🙂

> [@Gyrate](#):
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> 52? Geez, I only found 17. But she’s not obsessive. Nope.
> 
> I bet the majority of the people on all 52 of those boards think Holly is irritating. But I guess everyone else in the world is wrong and she’s right, right?

Or people can just ignore what may not even interest them in the first place. 🙂 🙂 🙂

God bless you two and James always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂

Holly

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**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/512 "2013-02-21T21:22:41Z")

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[QUOTE=living\_in\_hell]  
Hint: if the cover is embossed and/or in two parts (like with a cutaway) you know it’s gunna be craptastic.  
Reply With Quote

[/QUOTE]

And if the author’s name is in bigger type than the title. That’s another sign of a potboiler.

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**Author:** ![living\_in\_hell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@living\_in\_hell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/living_in_hell)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/513 "2013-02-21T21:36:23Z")

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> [@ugly ripe tomato](#):
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> And if the author’s name is in bigger type than the title. That’s another sign of a potboiler.

And metallic lettering.

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/514 "2013-02-21T21:40:51Z")

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Does “GBYA” mean anything other than “Google Before You Ask”?

Seems to be her standard sign-off on Twitter, but it doesn’t always make sense following what she actually has said.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/515 "2013-02-21T21:41:14Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> I believe that was my final message in the chat. 🙂 🙂 🙂

It wasn’t.

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**Author:** ![living\_in\_hell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@living\_in\_hell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/living_in_hell)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/516 "2013-02-21T21:44:27Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> It wasn’t.

I like her use of “the” most commonly found in the elderly population when speaking of ailments or things they don’t understand.

See:  
“I have the arthritis.”  
Or  
“The kids today, with the rap music.”

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**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/517 "2013-02-21T21:44:45Z")

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Oh crap. I just figured it out. Shit, she’s in my head.

GBYA. God bless y…aww fuck, you know the rest.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/518 "2013-02-21T21:47:14Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ I believe that it was only two and the second one is the one that I said that I was sorry that you had to give me because I forgot about the first one. I believe that was my final message in the chat. 🙂 🙂 🙂  
> Or people can just ignore what may not even interest them in the first place. 🙂 🙂 🙂
> 
> God bless you two and James always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂
> 
> Holly

The point is not whether people should ignore it. The point is that it is disturbingly abnormal behavior. It’s certainly not illegal, but that doesn’t mean it’s not a sign that you need help.

Consider: you are perfectly within your rights to sit at home and type “All work and no play make James Otto my snootchiebootchie” for hours at a time every day but I hope you would agree that this would be a strong indicator that you had suffered some sort of breakdown. While I am not in any way a mental health professional I still think you ought to consider that the road you’re on is headed in that direction and, while you’re not there yet, the folk of 52 messageboards would agree that you’ve got your foot on the gas and the pedal to the floor.

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/519 "2013-02-21T21:49:01Z")

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> [@leftfield6](#):
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> GBYA. God bless y…aww fuck, you know the rest.

:smack: o.k. that actually makes sense.

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/520 "2013-02-21T21:51:20Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> It wasn’t.

Yes it was. Go [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=16024314#post16024314) and then look at the rest of the chat. I left no other messages in the chat after the one where I said that I was sorry that I forgot about the warning. 🙂 🙂 🙂

God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂

Holly

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