# James Otto Sweet Heart and Damning Suicides to Hell **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 19, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764 "2013-02-19T03:08:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/561 "2013-02-22T01:00:09Z")
> [@living\_in\_hell](#): > > Hint: if the cover is embossed and/or in two parts (like with a cutaway) you know it’s gunna be craptastic. Don’t forget to make it one of those “double novels” with the second novel upside attached upside down to the first. Man, I haven’t seen one of those in years. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/562 "2013-02-22T01:04:07Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > I was trying to be nice there. Here is something that actually is kind of interesting about your ilk. You were trying to be nice and you failed completely. Yet, when you’re not trying to be irritating or offensive, you are 100% irritating and offensive. Have you considered switching your methods? Maybe you should stop trying to be nice and start trying to be irritating and offensive. Sadly, that’ll probably only result in you being, if possible, even more irritating and offensive. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/563 "2013-02-22T01:08:15Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > Does “GBYA” mean anything other than “Google Before You Ask”? _ **G** _rabbed _ **B** _y _ **Y** _our _ **A** _ss? ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Mondegreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/91b2a8/32.png) [@Lord\_Mondegreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Mondegreen)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/564 "2013-02-22T01:09:14Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Alright, this is driving me crazy. Who was that friggin’ poster who did the stupid little stick-figure men with weird smilies, with, like a one line response, in every single post she ever posted? I was searching for her for hours last night. > > Who’s with me? Am I hallucinating? Am I remember that loon correctly or not? Somebody throw me a bone. > > And when I - or one of us - digs her up … tell me this fruit-bat isn’t a reincarnation thereof. From memory I think her name was Sweet Sue. When I get a chance I will check up on that. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Mondegreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/91b2a8/32.png) [@Lord\_Mondegreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Mondegreen)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/565 "2013-02-22T01:14:04Z")
Yep, it was definitely **Sweet Sue**. ---
**Author:** ![April\_R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@April\_R](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/April_R)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/566 "2013-02-22T01:24:46Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Don’t forget to make it one of those “double novels” with the second novel upside attached upside down to the first. Man, I haven’t seen one of those in years. Manga do that. The first time I picked up a book like that, it took me more than a few seconds to figure out what was going on, I thought my book was broken 😛 ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/567 "2013-02-22T01:35:18Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Here is something that actually is kind of interesting about your ilk. You were trying to be nice and you failed completely. Yet, when you’re not trying to be irritating or offensive, you are 100% irritating and offensive. Have you considered switching your methods? Maybe you should stop trying to be nice and start trying to be irritating and offensive. > > Sadly, that’ll probably only result in you being, if possible, even more irritating and offensive. You may be a game player, but I most certainly am not. If you don’t like what comes from me, ignoring me is always an option. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly P.S. Obviously y’all look at me as some kind of threat to your circle here. My question is why. Why does what I think matter so much to you people? Do you see me trying to get y’all to be quiet? Never. Why not? Because I don’t have the right to take away your right to speak your mind, just like y’all don’t have the right to take away my right to speak my mind. ---
**Author:** ![April\_R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@April\_R](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/April_R)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/568 "2013-02-22T01:42:38Z")
Holly, the fact that you have a youtube page and view youtube videos is in direct violation of YOUR beliefs. How do you answer that? either you are lying about being Pentecostal or you don’t really know what it means to be Pentecostal. This is directly from the United Pentecostal Church’s official website: "Video use is “strictly limited to those areas in which motion picture cameras and projectors are traditionally permitted to be used; namely, in taking of pictures of family, friends, and church activities, and the viewing of educational, religious, or inspirational films which are consistent with wholesome Christian principles. **Be it further resolved that we restate our strong opposition to viewing of all worldly motion pictures and video films as are being shown commercially in theaters and on television for entertainment purposes for the ungodly masses, and the use of them in any form for God’s people.** Be it further resolved that all video receivers be so altered as to be unable to receive television channels. Be it further resolved that none of our ministers use video in any way except as herein provided.” [United Pentecostal church](http://www.inplainsite.org/html/united_pentecostal_church.html) I will readily admit when I do not agree with teachings in my church or common practices, heck I even have a tattoo, but I will not pretend to not know what my church teaches or what it means for me when I violate those teachings. So I call BS on you actually being Pentecostal. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/569 "2013-02-22T01:54:30Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > You may be a game player, but I most certainly am not. I’m probably going to regret asking this, but here goes anyway. What do you mean by _game player_? > [@](#): > > If you don’t like what comes from me, ignoring me is always an option. I have exactly one person on my ignore list. He’s not on there because of his stupidty. He’s on there because, IMHO, he’s a colossal jerk. P.S. Obviously y’all look at me as some kind of threat to your circle here. My question is why. [/quote] Posters here generally don’t like Stupid with a capital S. > [@](#): > > Why does what I think matter so much to you people? Do you see me trying to get y’all to be quiet? Never. Why not? Because I don’t have the right to take away your right to speak your mind, just like y’all don’t have the right to take away my right to speak my mind. You still don’t grok that there is no right of free speech here, huh? ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/570 "2013-02-22T01:56:00Z")
^^^ I don’t play games with I talk to people. I am a straight forward kind of person. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > [@April\_R](#): > > Holly, the fact that you have a youtube page and view youtube videos is in direct violation of YOUR beliefs. How do you answer that? > > either you are lying about being Pentecostal or you don’t really know what it means to be Pentecostal. > > This is directly from the United Pentecostal Church’s official website: > "Video use is “strictly limited to those areas in which motion picture cameras and projectors are traditionally permitted to be used; namely, in taking of pictures of family, friends, and church activities, and the viewing of educational, religious, or inspirational films which are consistent with wholesome Christian principles. **Be it further resolved that we restate our strong opposition to viewing of all worldly motion pictures and video films as are being shown commercially in theaters and on television for entertainment purposes for the ungodly masses, and the use of them in any form for God’s people.** Be it further resolved that all video receivers be so altered as to be unable to receive television channels. Be it further resolved that none of our ministers use video in any way except as herein provided.” [http://www.inplainsite.org/html/united\_pentecostal\_church.html](http://www.inplainsite.org/html/united_pentecostal_church.html) > > I will readily admit when I do not agree with teachings in my church or common practices, heck I even have a tattoo, but I will not pretend to not know what my church teaches or what it means for me when I violate those teachings. So I call BS on you actually being Pentecostal. I still have never once heard anyone ever tell anything about that stuff. We actually watched a film with John Schneider in it in church one night. I forget the name of the film, but its about this church that he goes too. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you two and him always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly ---
**Author:** ![April\_R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@April\_R](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/April_R)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/571 "2013-02-22T02:07:25Z")
Then you my dear, are not Pentecostal. And I amend my ascertain that my link was from the official Pentecostal Church site, it is not, upon further reading. However, the quote I gave IS from the official Pentecostal Church’s own declaration of standards. ---
**Author:** ![Tollhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@Tollhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tollhouse)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/572 "2013-02-22T02:10:16Z")
This whole exercise is akin to banging ones head against a wall… ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/573 "2013-02-22T02:13:20Z")
I would just like to say that I think it’s great that everyone is reading along with this Thread as it progresses. None of that late-to-the-thread folks quoting and responding to a post on page one, unaware that their point has already been made by other posters on pages two through twelve. This is like a Doper bonding retreat or road trip. It makes me feel good about us as a community. May the Flying Spaghetti Monster drip bolognese sauce on your best vestments. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/574 "2013-02-22T02:13:27Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > I don’t play games with I talk to people. I am a straight forward kind of person. & > [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > I still have never once heard anyone ever tell anything about that stuff. We actually watched a film with John Schneider in it in church one night. I forget the name of the film, but its about this church that he goes too. Is English not your native language? I’m just asking because this isn’t exactly what a literate American, nor even one who wishes to be making sense, would be writing. Not even a literate American from East Tennessee, a region with which I am familiar because I used to live there, would pen that. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/575 "2013-02-22T02:15:55Z")
> [@April\_R](#): > > However, the quote I gave IS from the official Pentecostal Church’s own declaration of standards. I wonder how they feel about bowling. When I was stationed in Georgia, for a while I was dating another soldier, a Pentacostal. I know she didn’t cut her hair. But she was also the best bowler I ever met. Cleaned my clock more than a couple of times at the base bowling alley. Come to think of it, I wonder how the “official Pentacostal Church” felt about her dating a Mormon. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/576 "2013-02-22T02:19:44Z")
^^^ I haven’t bowled in a while, but as of right now, my best score is the 137 that I bowled on Easter weekend of 2001. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > [@Monty](#): > > Is English not your native language? I’m just asking because this isn’t exactly what a literate American, nor even one who wishes to be making sense, would be writing. Not even a literate American from East Tennessee, a region with which I am familiar because I used to live there, would pen that. This is the way that I am and if I don’t register with you, my only advice to you and to everyone else that I don’t register with is to turn your attention towards someone else here that you can actually stomach. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly ---
**Author:** ![saje](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saje/32/3631_2.png) [@saje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saje)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/577 "2013-02-22T02:24:15Z")
Please. I beg you. Stop with the sig line. It’s making you look like a lunatic. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/578 "2013-02-22T02:28:49Z")
> [@Kimballkid](#): > > I’d say she’s pretty much driven everybody on this message board away from ‘Potential James Otto fandom’. That’s the saddest part. He’s pretty much a nobody (What do you say to a singer who had a #1 hit five years ago? “No, I don’t want fries with that.”) but what little career he has left is being ruined by this psycho. > [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > – and the restraining order. > [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ Only there isn’t one. 🙂 🙂 🙂 That could be because, being a Double-A-League celebrity with a wife and child, he can’t afford a lawyer. > [@PunditLisa](#): > > Well, I’m sorry that I started this mess by saying that I was glad Mindy McCready’s torment was over. Had I known it would unleash the holy rolling happy-face barfer, I’d have just hushed on up. That’s what bullies like her want you to think. They want to stifle dissent, in this case dissent from the teachings of her Sociopathic Jesus and the Church of the Holy James Otto, whoever the fuck he is. > [@Monty](#): > > Thank God for that! I, on the other hand, happen to be a practicing vegetarian for the last twelve years. The very last thing vegetarians as a whole need is someone with your, let’s call it style of persuasion advocating or in any other way trying to explain the concept. I thought she was acting very much like a vegetarian. Or is that a vegan? > [@](#): > > I see we may now add Genetics to the list of subjects of which you know absolutely nothing. Seriously, you didn’t learn the basics of that in middle school Science class? I’ll give you a hint: there’s a nifty lesson about a monk and his garden. Pssst! Mendel was a Catholic, so he doesn’t really count. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/579 "2013-02-22T02:32:56Z")
^^^ Right now James has been doing a lot of songwriting which is how a ACM and CMA award got to be on his shelf. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you and him always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly P.S. Last year the song that James wrote with Zac Brown of the Zac Brown Band named “No Hurry” went all the way to #2. 🙂 🙂 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/580 "2013-02-22T02:37:21Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > That’s the saddest part. He’s pretty much a nobody (What do you say to a singer who had a #1 hit five years ago? “No, I don’t want fries with that.”) but what little career he has left is being ruined by this psycho. What’s that old expression about bad publicity? > [@](#): > > That could be because, being a Double-A-League celebrity with a wife and child, he can’t afford a lawyer. I wonder if she realizes that the stars’ security folks also keep tabs on communications from the over-the-top fans, too. After all, all it takes is for the star to either make one major blunder or for the over-the-top fan to think the star made a major blunder and then…POW!.._Misery, the Sequel_ movie plot writes itself. > [@](#): > > Pssst! Mendel was a Catholic, so he doesn’t really count. Ah, so that’s why they can’t watch television, what with it being invented by a Mormon boy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=28) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=30)