# James Otto Sweet Heart and Damning Suicides to Hell **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 19, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764 "2013-02-19T03:08:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/601 "2013-02-22T05:03:39Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ I don’t play games with I talk to people. The evidence does not appear to support that assertion. To the unbiased observer it probably looks more like you talk _AT_ them. > [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > I am a straight forward kind of person. What nice thing to read! It would be cool if I could have said _“What a nice thing to know!”_ Here’s an opportunity to back that up. I asked you [this question](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16030179&postcount=425) quite some time ago. I’m still curious to know the answer to it. Again, thanking you in advance. ---
**Author:** ![ExVoxMachina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/59ef9b/32.png) [@ExVoxMachina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExVoxMachina)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/602 "2013-02-22T06:42:58Z")
Ok, this is insane, there are thousands of posts on hundreds of message boards by this person over the last few months. I have to believe that some where in Nashville some coke crazed publicist has imprisoned dozens of small east Asian women and taught them the most rudimentary concepts of English and the internet. Addicted them to meth amphetamine and let them loose on the internet to infuse the world consciousness with the “Idea” of one “James Otto”. JoSH, get help. ---
**Author:** ![Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce7236/32.png) [@Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mona_Lisa_Simpson)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/603 "2013-02-22T07:35:25Z")
I had not been aware of this poster. Ugh. I am a Christian of the very left of centre radical variety, and I despise smarmy so called Christians like this. They make us “Jesus was an olive skinned radical socialist and most of the Bible should be taken as mythology” types look bad. I generally have more in common with atheists than these types. Don’t feed… etc etc… ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/604 "2013-02-22T08:26:59Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > What makes you think James Otto still has security folks? 2008 was a long time ago. Well, _he_ [del]might[/del] probably does not; however, those poor buggers whose fanboards she’s polluted [del]may[/del] no doubt have seen the need to get some. > [@](#): > > I wouldn’t put it past them. I wouldn’t put it past them, either. I’ve had the misfortune to be in a room with one such extremist telling a friend that said friend should not read a book on management because the book’s author is Mormon. Seriously, why is that most of the people who are religious manage to have their faith enhance their thoughts and acts, but the extremist Fundamentalists can only pollute? > [@](#): > > Me, I’ve come to accept that you are a heretic and blasphemer. It’s just part of what makes you you, but others are not so forgiving. Remember that one man’s heresy/blasphemy is another’s orthodoxy. Would you bet that Holly’s going to make some inane comment about that now? > [@dropzone](#): > > [Buh-bye.](http://www.hulu.com/watch/291277) For those who cannot get Hulu, I’m guessing that link is to [this video](http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/total-bastard-airlines/n10561/). It’s one of my favorite skits from that show! > [@Guinastasia](#): > > Hail Marys are Catholic. And we all know the Catholics are a bunch of pagan idol worshippers. I’ve no doubt that Holly believes exactly that because her “pastor told [her] so.” > [@splatterpunk](#): > > That ship sailed long ago. By _ship_, you mean _rocketship_ and by _sail_ you mean _launched at nearly light-speed_, don’t you? > [@living\_in\_hell](#): > > I forgot all about those double novels until you mentioned them. Right on! This is the _second_ time someone’s said “Right on!” to me today. That’s kind of an interesting coincidence if you note that I’m not around too many English-speakers. > [@Locrian](#): > > I’m still curious about the “GBYA :):):)” sig. > > JOSH, do you feel that if you DON’T include that “blessing” your god smites you or something? > > And to be clear, I find it VERY offensive. Actually, that stunt of hers seems to me to have gone way beyond annoying and just very well may be in the realm of using the Lord’s name in vain. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/605 "2013-02-22T13:19:37Z")
So Holly, if I told you I was offended by you blessing me and pushing your religion on me would you still do it? Isn’t that rude? What about Southern manners? Who did you vote for in the last election? I know it was tough, the Mormon or the, well you know. ---
**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/606 "2013-02-22T13:44:23Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > So Holly, if I told you I was offended by you blessing me and pushing your religion on me would you still do it? Isn’t that rude? What about Southern manners? > > Who did you vote for in the last election? I know it was tough, the Mormon or the, well you know. He’s not a Muslim! Allah hu akbar always!!! ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/607 "2013-02-22T15:27:24Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > P.S. Oh and how many times do I have to say that I sleep alone until I am married? Once was plenty, zero would have been even better. May Cthulhu devour you first! 🙂 🙂 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Achren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Achren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achren)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/608 "2013-02-22T15:27:32Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Ah, I see. The common factor in all your failed message boards experiences is the failure of others to ignore you. She’s addicted to “someone is WRONG on the internet!” Most people realize that just because they _can_ do something doesn’t mean they should (that’s even something Paul wrote 1 Corinthians 6:12). Can’t let mercy or compassion get in the way of revealing cold, hard reality. Guess she doesn’t want biblical teaching to get in the way of her uniqueness. If this is typical of east Tennessee, I need to never, ever go there. > [@Antinor01](#): > > May Cthulhu devour you first! 🙂 🙂 🙂 A Christian friend of mine has this on a shirt. It’s gotten him a surprising amount of fist-bumps. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/609 "2013-02-22T15:42:55Z")
> [@splatterpunk](#): > > When this thread started, you had 11 followers on Twitter. Now you’re down to 10. Who dropped you? It was someone that I didn’t even know in the first place because those that I do know still look after me over there. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > [@Locrian](#): > > JOSH, do you feel that if you DON’T include that “blessing” your god smites you or something? > > And to be clear, I find it VERY offensive. If I sneeze, it’s one thing-- more of a salutation. But if you’re forcing a Yahweh or Jehovah blessing on me, no thanks. I don’t need the blessings of a fictional asshole. (Read Joshua 7 – the whole thing) No its nothing like that. Also I see a lot of things online that get forced down the throats that may not want to see it, but I don’t ask them people to stop because I don’t have the right to take away their freedom of speech so if what they say is allowed, so is what I have to say too. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Again, people… That is WHY she does it. The goal for her here is to be very offensive. That is not why I say it. > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I asked you [this question](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16030179&postcount=425) quite some time ago. I’m still curious to know the answer to it. I do my part when something that I can say about the Lord fits into a chat that I find and whatever people think about what it is that I have to say is all up to them. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > [@ExVoxMachina](#): > > JoSH, get help. Thanks, but I don’t need any. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > [@Monty](#): > > Actually, that stunt of hers seems to me to have gone way beyond annoying and just very well may be in the realm of using the Lord’s name in vain. I don’t take the name of the Lord in vain. > [@Loach](#): > > So Holly, if I told you I was offended by you blessing me and pushing your religion on me would you still do it? Isn’t that rude? What about Southern manners? If I told you that swearing offended me, would you still do it? > [@Antinor01](#): > > Once was plenty, zero would have been even better. If it hadn’t have been for other people here saying certain things to me, I never would have had a reason to share such a thing about myself. God bless you people always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/610 "2013-02-22T15:59:13Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > I don’t take the name of the Lord in vain. Have you heard the story of the little boy who cried “wolf”? He did so in vain. vain adjective \ˈvān 1: having no real value : idle, worthless \ 2: marked by futility or ineffectualness : unsuccessful, useless \ 3archaic : foolish, silly 4: having or showing undue or excessive pride in one’s appearance or achievements : conceited — vain·ly adverb — vain·ness \ˈvān-nəs\ noun — in vain 1: to no end : without success or result \ 2: in an irreverent or blasphemous manner \ Ringing a doorbell is not offensive or done in vain. Ringing a doorbell 200 times in a row is. Stop ringing that doorbell. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/611 "2013-02-22T16:02:29Z")
^^^ I don’t take the name of the Lord in vain no matter how many times people say that I do. God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/612 "2013-02-22T16:09:24Z")
> [@Antinor01](#): > > May Cthulhu devour you first! 🙂 🙂 🙂 My birthday was yesterday. A friend made me a cake with this on it! Synchronicity. 666.:):)🙂 ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/613 "2013-02-22T16:10:08Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I asked you [this question](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16030179&postcount=425) quite some time ago. I’m still curious to know the answer to it. > [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > I do my part when something that I can say about the Lord fits into a chat that I find and whatever people think about what it is that I have to say is all up to them. 🙂 🙂 🙂 A-a-a-a-nd, I still don’t know the answer. I do know my current course of action, however. It’s off to Two-Buck Chuck Land for you, Holly. I hope you find whatever it is you’re seeking by being here. Sorry, guys; I harbored a crazy hope that she was capable of taking an honest look at herself and concluding on her own that this board is not a good fit for her. ---
**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/614 "2013-02-22T16:13:18Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ I don’t take the name of the Lord in vain no matter how many times people say that I do. > > God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 > > Holly [John Piper](http://www.christianity.com/theology/what-does-it-mean-to-take-the-lords-name-in-vain-11600552.html): "So it [taking the Lord’s name in vain] doesn’t just refer to a certain tone of voice or a certain use of the word. It’s dealing with God and speaking of God in a way that empties him of his significance. This includes both throw-away words—like “God!” or “Jesus!”—as well as speaking about him in trifling and flippant ways. Not just swear ways but cheap ways, low and insignificant ways that just treat him like a commodity." To be perfectly honest, I can’t imagine commoditizing the name of God more effectively than reducing His blessing to a forum signature, something handed out by rote to everyone. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/615 "2013-02-22T16:13:44Z")
^^^ Saying God bless you is not taking the name of the Lord in vain. Now saying “Oh my —!” is which is something that I never say. Can the rest of y’all here say that you don’t say that either? No. > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I harbored a crazy hope that she was capable of taking an honest look at herself and concluding on her own that this board is not a good fit for her. If you are not going to do the same thing, why think that there is a chance that someone else would? God bless you two always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly ---
**Author:** ![saje](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saje/32/3631_2.png) [@saje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saje)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/616 "2013-02-22T16:15:22Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > It was someone that I didn’t even know in the first place because those that I do know still look after me over there. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > No its nothing like that. Also I see a lot of things online that get forced down the throats that may not want to see it, but I don’t ask them people to stop because I don’t have the right to take away their freedom of speech so if what they say is allowed, so is what I have to say too. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > That is not why I say it. > I do my part when something that I can say about the Lord fits into a chat that I find and whatever people think about what it is that I have to say is all up to them. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > Thanks, but I don’t need any. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > I don’t take the name of the Lord in vain. > If I told you that swearing offended me, would you still do it? > If it hadn’t have been for other people here saying certain things to me, I never would have had a reason to share such a thing about myself. > > God bless you people always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 > > Holly Time to hit the Ignore button. I’m tired of being troll-fodder. ---
**Author:** ![Achren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Achren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achren)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/617 "2013-02-22T16:22:48Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ Saying God bless you is not taking the name of the Lord in vain. Now saying “Oh my —!” is which is something that I never say. Can the rest of y’all here say that you don’t say that either? No. > If you are not going to do the same thing, why think that there is a chance that someone else would? > > God bless you two always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 > > Holly John Piper is no James Joyce, that you should miss the point of that quote so completely. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/618 "2013-02-22T16:22:54Z")
I’ve learned something very valuable from this thread… if I’m ever indicted on, say, something like being a serial killer, all I’ll have to do to justify my deplorable actions is point out the following: “So-and-so over there is still a serial killer. If they won’t stop, then why should I?” Mwahahahahaha! I’m sure the judge will grant me the utmost leniency when I’m strapped to the electric chair. My Og, five year olds have more intelligence and better logic than that. I can’t stop laughing. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/619 "2013-02-22T16:26:28Z")
> [@Achren](#): > > John Piper is no James Joyce, that you should miss the point of that quote so completely. I don’t know either one of them guys. > [@saje](#): > > Time to hit the Ignore button. I’m tired of being troll-fodder. Yeah well I am tired of being harassed, but if people are going to harass me, it ain’t in my blood to just let people get away with it. I will give it right back to them because people harassing me is not the reason why the Lord died for us. God bless you two always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/620 "2013-02-22T16:27:37Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I harbored a crazy hope that she was capable of taking an honest look at herself and concluding on her own that this board is not a good fit for her. > [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > If you are not going to do the same thing, why think that there is a chance that someone else would? Yeah, **kaylasdad99**! You’ve posted almost 18,000 times over close to 14 years at this board. Don’t you think it’s time you figure out if we’re a good fit for you or not by now? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=30) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=32)