# James Otto Sweet Heart and Damning Suicides to Hell **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 19, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764 "2013-02-19T03:08:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/641 "2013-02-22T22:32:32Z")
> [@lost4life](#): > > Again, from your experience, do you feel that making a suit from a celebrity’s skin and dancing around in front of the mirror wearing said skin suit, that it gives you their magic power? She’d need an _extremely_ talented tailor to properly hem a suit made from James who grew almost one foot more than her. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/642 "2013-02-22T22:35:21Z")
> [@Battle\_Pope](#): > > Wonder if she tucks it back like Buffalo Bill? But man, she doesn’t even have a garage! Or something like that. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Katriona](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/katriona/32/113_2.png) [@Katriona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katriona)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/643 "2013-02-22T23:35:48Z")
> [@lost4life](#): > > Holly, I realize everyone is making fun of you and not being very nice. As a James Otto fan, I tried to be civil and asked you a serious question and I’m curious why you chose to ignore it? > > Again, from your experience, do you feel that making a suit from a celebrity’s skin and dancing around in front of the mirror wearing said skin suit, that it gives you their magic power? It puts the lotion on its skin… ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/644 "2013-02-22T23:41:18Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Sorry, guys; I harbored a crazy hope that she was capable of taking an honest look at herself and concluding on her own that this board is not a good fit for her. > [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > If you are not going to do the same thing, why think that there is a chance that someone else would? Au contraire. I think **kaylasdad99** _did_ take an honest look at _your_self. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/645 "2013-02-23T00:04:12Z")
^^^ They are to look at their own self, not me. > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Then stop doing it. Many folks have told you they find it offensive. Yet you continue. You now KNOW that it is offensive. By continuing, you show that you don’t care about anyone else. So stop it. > > Otherwise, we will know that your goal is to be as offensive as possible. Does this make you feel like a righteous martyr when people get upset? If I were to tell you that I think that swearing is offensive, would you continue to swear? I believe that you would. All that I can say is that if you can’'t give up something about yourself, why ask someone else to do it? And that right there is the reason why I never ask anyone to stop with their dirty mouths because that would only turn me into a hypocrite when I am not willing to stop with something about myself as well. > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > No you’re not. You love it. > > You invite it. > > You revel in it. > > It feeds your persecution complex and is a fundamental part of who you are. > > You wrap yourself in it and snuggle yourself to sleep with it. > > Time for you to be only the 2nd person on my ignore list. Be proud! I don’t revel in it. I just don’t walk away from it because walking away will only make people think that they can get away with it. > [@lost4life](#): > > Holly, I realize everyone is making fun of you and not being very nice. As a James Otto fan, I tried to be civil and asked you a serious question and I’m curious why you chose to ignore it? > > Again, from your experience, do you feel that making a suit from a celebrity’s skin and dancing around in front of the mirror wearing said skin suit, that it gives you their magic power? I’m sorry but I don’t remember what you asked me. So many people to respond to, so little time. ☹ ☹ ☹ As for what you asked me in this message of yours, I don’t feel like I have any magic powers. God bless you three always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly ---
**Author:** ![missred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/missred/32/14096_2.png) [@missred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missred)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/646 "2013-02-23T00:43:10Z")
[QUOTE=James Otto Sweet Heart;16035185\ If I were to tell you that I think that swearing is offensive, would you continue to swear? I believe that you would. All that I can say is that if you can’'t give up something about yourself, why ask someone else to do it? And that right there is the reason why I never ask anyone to stop with their dirty mouths because that would only turn me into a hypocrite when I am not willing to stop with something about myself as well. \ Holly[/QUOTE] Wait a minute. You come to a community that began in this format nearly 14 years ago and don’t understand (or care) what our community standards are? Frankly, that says a lot about you and your religion. It’s nice that a C-lister like James Otto has a fan club. He’s not a bad musician, even though he hasn’t charted for awhile. But using his name like you do definitely brings him no new positive exposure. Of course, neither does your attitude regarding the use of the name of your deity. ---
**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/647 "2013-02-23T00:47:58Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > Actually I am about to get off of here for a while. I thought you were leaving, ya lyin’ cunt :):)🙂 ---
**Author:** ![kath94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/67e7ee/32.png) [@kath94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kath94)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/648 "2013-02-23T00:49:24Z")
Just walk away, Holly. Walk away. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/649 "2013-02-23T01:21:28Z")
Good gracious, folks, I _hope_ we don’t have to turn this place into 4chan just to try to offend her so much she pulls up stakes and leaves (think of the kind of crowd such a thing would _attract_ :eek: ). The best solution would be if everybody would put her on “ignore.” The fly in that ointment is that the option isn’t open to people who aren’t members. Second best would be administrative separation, but I’m not comfortable with the notion of getting creative with the procedures that would trigger this. Third is everyone just sending her to Coventry without the benefit of the “ignore” feature, and encouraging others to do so as well. This would appear to carry the same disadvantages as the “best” option, with the added problem of the fact that collectively WE HAVE **ZERO** SELF-DISCIPLINE. Still, it’s probably the best we can do. And, yes, I am aware that there’s already a thread trying to persuade everyone of the above. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/650 "2013-02-23T01:22:04Z")
^^^ Smart advice. If someone bugs you that much, put them on ignore. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > [@kath94](#): > > Just walk away, Holly. Walk away. 🙂 Why should I walk away when I have a right to defend myself? If a person walks away there is no conversation at all what so ever and there for there is no communication or discussion no matter what the situation is. > [@missred](#): > > Wait a minute. You come to a community that began in this format nearly 14 years ago and don’t understand (or care) what our community standards are? Frankly, that says a lot about you and your religion. > > It’s nice that a C-lister like James Otto has a fan club. He’s not a bad musician, even though he hasn’t charted for awhile. But using his name like you do definitely brings him no new positive exposure. > > Of course, neither does your attitude regarding the use of the name of your deity. You and everyone else already bring what you want to this forum. Well that is what I am doing. So what if it isn’t what y’all bring? If this were a dinner, how would it look to you if every one brought the same kind of food? Also all that I have done for James has scored him some new listeners whether you believe me or not. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > [@FloatyGimpy](#): > > I thought you were leaving, ya lyin’ cunt :):)🙂 Did you not see where I said that I was leaving **for a while**? God bless you three and James always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/651 "2013-02-23T01:25:40Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > collectively WE HAVE **ZERO** SELF-DISCIPLINE. Don’t feel bad about it. > [@Diogenes the Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/48): > > Of course, because it’s a public message board: when you say controversial or inflammatory things, someone always takes the bait and replies. That’s why DNFTT never, ever works. People as a collective don’t spontaneously ignore trolls and irritants very well. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/652 "2013-02-23T01:36:03Z")
> [@FloatyGimpy](#): > > I thought you were leaving, ya lyin’ cunt :):)🙂 Rrrrrmrmrmrmrrmmm, don’t make me switch teams. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/653 "2013-02-23T01:45:25Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > Rrrrrmrmrmrmrrmmm, don’t make me switch teams. He’s going to turn you gay? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/654 "2013-02-23T02:08:12Z")
What does DNFTT stand for? God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly ---
**Author:** ![EverwonderWhy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee59a6/32.png) [@EverwonderWhy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EverwonderWhy)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/655 "2013-02-23T02:10:40Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > What does DNFTT stand for? Do not feed the troll. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/656 "2013-02-23T02:12:57Z")
^^^ Thank you. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/657 "2013-02-23T03:04:00Z")
Actually, um, may I request that instead of James Otto, could you request that God bless one of my favorite hockey players, Evgeni Malkin? Cuz he got slammed into the boards pretty hard tonight, and it looks like he might have a head injury. Could you like, ask God to make sure he doesn’t have whiplash or a concussion? He’s one of the best players in the league, and for him to get a concussion would seriously hurt our chances of winning the Stanley Cup this season. Well, that and I don’t want him to be hurt, of course – I’m not a monster! But we just got Sidney Crosby back, so it would seriously suck to lose Malkin. (LET’S GO PENS!!!) ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/658 "2013-02-23T03:08:04Z")
^^^ I pray that all goes well for your favorite hockey player! 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you and him and James always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/659 "2013-02-23T03:08:21Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > (LET’S GO PENS!!!) Good thing you checked for extra letters. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Dord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@The\_Dord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Dord)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/660 "2013-02-23T03:37:08Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > Good thing you checked for extra letters. Yeah, don’t make the Pen Island mistake! :smack: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=32) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=34)