# James Otto Sweet Heart and Damning Suicides to Hell **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 19, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764 "2013-02-19T03:08:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 39
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/761 "2013-02-24T03:24:23Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > That’s interesting. Tell me more about just trying to get a better understanding of what it is that you are trying to ask me. All that I asked you is what questions are you referring to? God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly P.S. I don’t mean to be rude, but are you OK? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/762 "2013-02-24T03:26:19Z")
> [@DummyGladHands](#): > > So who is this guy? Some porn star?? Second rate country singer. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/763 "2013-02-24T03:28:58Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > Second rate country singer. Yeah, well, _TODAY_. But porn star by the end of the year for sure. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/764 "2013-02-24T03:32:50Z")
^^^ James did say one time that Magnum Steel would be his porn star name if he were to go down that road, that is. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > [@runner pat](#): > > Second rate country singer. If that is how the music industry looks at him right now, that can change at anytime. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you two and James always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/765 "2013-02-24T03:34:55Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > All that I asked you is what questions are you referring to? > > God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 > > Holly > > P.S. I don’t mean to be rude, but are you OK? I see. Why don’t you mean to be rude when you ask if I’m OK? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/766 "2013-02-24T03:39:05Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ James did say one time that Magnum Steel would be his porn star name if he were to go down that road, that is. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > If that is how the music industry looks at him right now, that can change at anytime. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > > God bless you two and James always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 > > Holly I grew up listening to country music and I’m quite familiar with the giants of the genre. So I will retract my judgement that he’s second rate. He’s third rate. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/767 "2013-02-24T03:43:09Z")
^^^ Well you know what they say, third time’s a charm and if James comes back to radio, it will be his third time. I love how quitting just isn’t in him. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > [@drewtwo99](#): > > I see. Why don’t you mean to be rude when you ask if I’m OK? Because I don’t go out of my way to be rude to people. If people go ahead and think that I am, that is their choice. God bless you two and James always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/768 "2013-02-24T03:52:04Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ Well you know what they say, third time’s a charm and if James comes back to radio, it will be his third time. I love how quitting just isn’t in him. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > Because I don’t go out of my way to be rude to people. If people go ahead and think that I am, that is their choice. > > God bless you two and James always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 > > Holly Why do you think it is people’s choice to feel that you are being rude to people? ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/769 "2013-02-24T03:53:48Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > P.S. And if my memory serves me right, I am not the one who started this chat in the first place. I am just the one who is doing to it what should be done with it, after all it is about me right? Whether this chat continues is all up to the rest of you. 🙂 🙂 🙂 No, that’s usually up to the person who has no life which seems to be you. Either you have a pathological compulsion to spend so much time here being completely inane or you enjoy seeing the responses you get; probably both I’m beginning to suspect. So on some level I feel bad for you but on another, it’s pretty funny to watch you wiggle your way through these threads. I continually vacillate between pity and amusement. Yes, I’m sure you don’t want or need my pity just like I don’t want or need your blessings. Bummer, huh? ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/770 "2013-02-24T03:54:33Z")
^^^ Oh I have a life. Who really needs the prayer are y’all who thought that I would let you get away with jumping on me for sharing a belief that y’all ended up on going for it. Well guess what? I am not a rug that you people can walk all over. I stand up for myself no matter how other people feel about it because I am the one who has to live with me and I am not going to live with a victim of flat out **harassment**!!! > [@drewtwo99](#): > > Why do you think it is people’s choice to feel that you are being rude to people? OK there is definitely something going on with you. Thank you for letting me know. God bless you two always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/771 "2013-02-24T03:58:16Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Except that “God works in mysterious ways” is actually a decent argument, or it would be if it weren’t usually used as a superficial platitude by well-meaning idiots. > > Consider, to the best of your ability, what a timeless, omniscient, omnipotent being must be like. Now consider by comparison the extremely limited perspective and powers we frail mortals have. How could we hope to comprehend what God is up to? At best we can hope that God has the big picture in mind, and all our ephermal sufferings (however horrific) serve a greater purpose in the long run. Perhaps those that suffer most in life receive the greatest rewards in the afterlife, whatever they may be. Maybe one’s suffering relieves greater suffering by others. Maybe this is the [best of all possible worlds](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_of_all_possible_worlds). We have no way of seeing the Grand Plan, if such there be, and so we’re left to trust that God knows what he’s doing. Such is faith. > > If the Bible is anything to go by, however, you can be sure that whatever the Plan is, things are going to be pretty miserable here on Earth and moreso for His chosen ones. God never promised anyone an easy ride. But if a Christian accepts ‘God Works in Mysterious Ways’ as an answer, then that puts them in the position of having to accept whatever nonsense an atheist frames with that phrase. I could say to a Christian, "I think God wants Christians to throw out their bibles and just start living a life of treating others the way they themselves want to be treated. I know it is hard for you to understand why he would only tell me that and not just stick to what he had been teaching through the bible all these years. But what can I say…GWiMW. Can a Christian rebuttal that? I mean, after all, God is mysterious. Who knows why he would choose me to give his new commandment to. Only He knows. ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/772 "2013-02-24T04:01:10Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ Oh I have a life. Who really needs the prayer are y’all who thought that I would let you get away with jumping on me for sharing a belief that y’all ended up on going for it. Well guess what? I am not a rug that you people can walk all over. I stand up for myself no matter how other people feel about it because I am the one who has to live with me and I am not going to live with a victim of flat out **harassment**!!! That’s right sweetie. And you keep on doing that since you obviously have the time and pathology to do it! Yea JOSH!!! ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/773 "2013-02-24T04:03:19Z")
^^^ And you and everyone else in this chat obviously has the time and pathology to do your part of this as well don’t y’all? God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/774 "2013-02-24T04:06:03Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ And you and everyone else in this chat obviously has the time and pathology to do your part of this as well don’t y’all? Oh dear me. More than you could possibly know. But you see that’s difference between us. I’m honest about it. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/775 "2013-02-24T04:11:59Z")
^^^ Well I lie to nobody too whether people believe me or not. God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/776 "2013-02-24T04:14:19Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ Well I lie to nobody too whether people believe me or not. > > God bless you always!!! > > Holly Of course you don’t dearie. Because if you believe the lies yourself, it’s not really lying now is it? ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/777 "2013-02-24T04:23:01Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ Oh I have a life. Who really needs the prayer are y’all who thought that I would let you get away with jumping on me for sharing a belief that y’all ended up on going for it. Well guess what? I am not a rug that you people can walk all over. I stand up for myself no matter how other people feel about it because I am the one who has to live with me and I am not going to live with a victim of flat out **harassment**!!! Harassment? harassment?? HARASSMENT??? :rolleyes: ohmygod Do you have any idea how ironic it is to hear that from someone who is spending all of her time harassing whole message boards? Hur hur - she said ass… ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/778 "2013-02-24T04:23:55Z")
^^^ I don’t harass. I just don’t sit here and let others get away with harassing me. > [@deltasigma](#): > > Of course you don’t dearie. Because if you believe the lies yourself, it’s not really lying now is it? I don’t tell any lies for myself or anyone else to believe in the first place because I lie to nobody. God bless you two always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/779 "2013-02-24T04:27:10Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > I don’t tell any lies for myself or anyone else to believe in the first place because I lie to nobody. > > God bless you two always!!! > > Holly And deliberately misunderstanding is of course an important step in the self-deception process. LOL. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/780 "2013-02-24T04:30:16Z")
^^^ Oh well. Only a person who has been there would know that. God bless you always!!! Holly [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=38) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=40)