# James Otto Sweet Heart and Damning Suicides to Hell

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 19, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764 "2013-02-19T03:08:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/801 "2013-02-24T06:42:13Z")

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> [@splatterpunk](#):
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> Well, he doesn’t seem to be saying anything. Why does he never reply to any of your inane tweets?

James doesn’t want his other fans to become jealous of his special relationship with Holly. James e-mails his responses to me. I relay James’s words to God. God then manipulates the noodles in Holly’s alphabet soup to spell out the messages from James.

ETA: First Post of a new page!!! I win ANOTHER puppy!

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/802 "2013-02-24T06:43:04Z")

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^^^ Sure James emails his responses to you. And just yesterday I saw all four of the Beatles preparing to leave for their tour as the opening act for Elvis! It was **AWESOME** to see John and George again!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂

> [@splatterpunk](#):
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> Well, he doesn’t seem to be saying anything. Why does he never reply to any of your inane tweets?

James has replied to several of my messages, 16 of them to be exact and those are just the ones that you can see for yourself if you are willing to do the digging. His last one was a month ago concerning his website. 🙂 🙂 🙂

God bless you two and James always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂

Holly

P.S. So far James has written to me directly at Twitter 15 times. 🙂 🙂 🙂

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/803 "2013-02-24T06:45:53Z")

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JOSH…may I ask how old you are?

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/804 "2013-02-24T06:47:58Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> OK there is definitely something going on with you. Thank you for letting me know.
> 
> God bless you two always!!!
> 
> Holly

Wow. You said you weren’t trying to be rude, but here you are saying there’s “definitely something going on” with me.

How am I supposed to take that? As a compliment?

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/805 "2013-02-24T06:48:54Z")

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^^^ Well with the questions that you ask me, what impression do you think people are going to have?

> [@kambuckta](#):
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> JOSH…may I ask how old you are?

I will be 31 at the end of June. 🙂 🙂 🙂

> [@living\_in\_hell](#):
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> I only speak for myself. I am trying! I hope you stick around. I think you have something to offer.

Thank you. That really means a lot to me. 🙂 🙂 🙂

God bless you three always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂

Holly

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/806 "2013-02-24T06:54:38Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> And just yesterday I saw all four of the Beatles preparing to leave for their tour as the opening act for Elvis! It was **AWESOME** to see John and George again!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂

O.K., I just e-mailed Paul McCartney and he says this did not happen. I protested “But, Paul, Holly said it happened and Holly NEVER lies to anyone.” Paul McCartney said “Fuck that! I was just talking to Jesus the other day and you wouldn’t fucking believe the kind of shit she’s been telling HIM!”

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/807 "2013-02-24T06:57:21Z")

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^^^ Obviously you don’t know what sarcasm is which to me is sad.

God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂

Holly

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/808 "2013-02-24T07:09:15Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ Well with the questions that you ask me, what impression do you think people are going to have?

What was wrong with my questions? I was just trying to get to know you better.

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/809 "2013-02-24T07:11:47Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ Obviously you don’t know what sarcasm is which to me is sad.

[Hey, Kids! Let’s ALL learn what sarcasm is!](http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Sarcasm) 🙂 🙂 🙂

[QUOTE=Thomas Carlyle]  
Sarcasm I now see to be, in general, the language of the Devil; for which reason I have, long since, as good as renounced it.  
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fyodor Dostoevsky]  
Sarcasm: the last refuge of modest and chaste-souled people when the privacy of their soul is coarsely and intrusively invaded.  
[/QUOTE]

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/810 "2013-02-24T07:16:51Z")

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> [@drewtwo99](#):
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> What was wrong with my questions? I was just trying to get to know you better.

Well that is not how it comes across to me.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. Now you know how it feels to be in the spot that y’all have put me in. I am getting off of here for the night. I pray that y’all have a good one! 🙂 🙂 🙂

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**Author:** ![The\_Dord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@The\_Dord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Dord)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/811 "2013-02-24T07:20:55Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> Well that is not how it comes across to me.
> 
> God bless you always!!!
> 
> Holly
> 
> P.S. Now you know how it feels to be in the spot that y’all have put me in. I am getting off of here for the night. I pray that y’all have a good one! 🙂 🙂 🙂

I don’t think you put anyone on the spot, but believe what you will. 😃

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/812 "2013-02-24T07:23:01Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> I will be 31 at the end of June. 🙂 🙂 🙂

You are fucking kidding me, yes?

You are thirty years old, you’re a groupie for a never-has-been froth-singer, you spam messageboards with your evangelical ejaculations, and you wonder why folks don’t take you seriously?

Now if you’d been 16 or 17, I might have given you some concessions, but you’re THIRTY FUCKING YEARS OLD. :rolleyes:

Go get a life, please.

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**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/813 "2013-02-24T07:24:40Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> James has replied to several of my messages, 16 of them to be exact and those are just the ones that you can see for yourself if you are willing to do the digging. His last one was a month ago concerning his website. 🙂 🙂 🙂

\*\*‏@jamesotto \*\* My boy @janson\_chris is playing a FREE show tonight at The Silver Dollar Saloon at 8p. Don’t miss it y’all!

**‏@SweetHeartHolly** @jamesotto James, when will your next show B? BTW nothing comes up 4 me @ your official website anymore. Has it been taken down? (hug) GBYA!

**@jamesotto** @SweetHeartHolly looking into it now.

‏\*\*@SweetHeartHolly\*\* @jamesotto U writing me here James is 1 of my most favorite things. Thank U so much! (smiles) Now back 2 telling others about U! (hug) GBYA!  
Jesus.

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/814 "2013-02-24T07:39:57Z")

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Why does Holly call herself his Sweet Heart, anyway? Isn’t that a term of endearment, that you use for someone you love and are in a relationship with?

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**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/815 "2013-02-24T08:52:10Z")

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It must be great having most of the day free. You considered taking up a distance course, crochet, an MMO, going for walks, getting a pet, learning to play an instrument? You know, that kind of thing? Personally, I think the early starts would kill me. I certainly wouldn’t have a happy disposition to get along with forum goers. Also, I wouldn’t recommend hanging out on a forum where one feels uncomfortable or harassed. It’s not a “defeat” to walk away: its a mutual arrangement which will increase happiness and free up time for both parties. There are funny kitten videos on the internet just waiting to be watched!

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/816 "2013-02-24T11:12:53Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> So, successfully seeing what is in the mind of God is very much like a second in the [Total Perspective Vortex.](http://www.earthstar.co.uk/vortex.htm)

I would think so, yes. And I always assume that anyone telling people what God wants or thinks is projecting, particularly since it always seems to magically coincide with what they want or think.

> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> But if a Christian accepts ‘God Works in Mysterious Ways’ as an answer, then that puts them in the position of having to accept whatever nonsense an atheist frames with that phrase. I could say to a Christian, "I think God wants Christians to throw out their bibles and just start living a life of treating others the way they themselves want to be treated. I know it is hard for you to understand why he would only tell me that and not just stick to what he had been teaching through the bible all these years. But what can I say…GWiMW.
> 
> Can a Christian rebuttal that? I mean, after all, God is mysterious. Who knows why he would choose me to give his new commandment to. Only He knows.

How does that follow? There’s a difference between saying “God must know what He’s doing” and “I must believe anyone else who says that they know what God wants”; in fact they’d be contradictory positions since the whole point of this position is that _nobody_ gets a direct line to God and the Grand Plan and anyone who says that they have one is deluded. At most, the position I laid out is a “Que sera, sera” one, since whatever happens is what God hath willed.

I should add that this is all a purely theoretical stance from my viewpoint; I am not any sort of theist.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Mondegreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/91b2a8/32.png) [@Lord\_Mondegreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Mondegreen)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/817 "2013-02-24T11:12:56Z")

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**James Otto Sweet Heart** , I was the one who first called you out for mentioning in a condolence thread that you thought that someone who committed suicide would suffer for all eternity. I don’t apologise (please excuse the non-US spelling - I’m Australian) for what I said, because I think you were totally out of line. Whatever your beliefs, they did not need to be aired in the way they were.

Having said that, I also have no problem with you offering your God’s blessings to all and sundry. Yes, it’s annoying (particularly with the over use of smilies), but I understand that it is well-intentioned. I have stated in the past that even though I am an atheist, I am touched when someone says sincerely that they will pray for me. That’s because I know that what they are offering is to speak to the being they believe is responsible for creating the Universe and to ask Him to help me. Even though I believe this act is futile because I don’t think He exists, I still understand the gravity behind the act.

You have posted stuff which irritates me no end, but I think this board would be a better place if the pile-on you have endured had not happened. There are plenty of posts in this place which irritate me in one way or another, but they contribute to the dialog. Unfortunately at the moment you are in the spotlight, and frankly the way you are responding seems almost deliberately fashioned to ellicit a certain kind of reaction.

I have no idea whether you want to be a long-term member of this site. If so, please graciously disengage from this thread and contribute to other ones (not always mentioning your favourite performer). If not, please stop posting here and may your God be with you always.

Unfortunately this thread seems to have reached the stage where you feel that to stop responding would indicate that you have “lost” somehow. I can only speak personally, but I would never think that was the case. If you were to post something like, “I will never change my beliefs so I’ve said all I will say, but I’m sorry for those who are offended by my posting style” and then went on to contribute to other threads, I’m pretty sure that would result in a great conclusion. Otherwise I fear we will see an epic trainwreck, which will reflect badly on everyone.

I wish you happiness always, and I hope you will find a way to contribute positively to this board.

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**Author:** ![saje](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saje/32/3631_2.png) [@saje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saje)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/818 "2013-02-24T12:08:45Z")

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A good start to that would be to put the “blessing” in the automated signature line, so it can be hidden by those who are sick and tired of it.

Blessings are fine, I just don’t like being beaten over the head with them.

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**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/819 "2013-02-24T12:13:53Z")

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> [@saje](#):
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> A good start to that would be to put the “blessing” in the automated signature line, so it can be hidden by those who are sick and tired of it.
> 
> Blessings are fine, I just don’t like being beaten over the head with them.

You’re missing the point. It has to be customized to each of her messages don’t you see? Obviously you’ve already started to screen out her carefully crafted blessings. I hope you’re ashamed of yourself. :mad: 😃

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/820 "2013-02-24T15:53:51Z")

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> [@runner pat](#):
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> You missed out on a lot of beer drinking then.

> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ No I haven’t. I had to sing at a funeral for one of my cousins who was left for dead after being hit by a drunk driver. ☹ ☹ ☹

Um, I don’t think that was quite what he was talking about.

Back in the day, there was a popular band in West Texas. Locally popular, especially with the college crowd, it was _not_ country and western. They sang their own stuff and were looked upon as some sort of modern-day prophets by a small cadre of followers, particularly three ladies who were forever spreading their word to whomever would listen. (They actually were quite good.) This was pre-Internet, and I have a hunch those girls would have been all over the Net like JOSH is now if it had existed then. This sort of madness may not be all that uncommon.

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