# James Otto Sweet Heart and Damning Suicides to Hell **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 19, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764 "2013-02-19T03:08:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 42
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/821 "2013-02-24T16:05:37Z")
> [@Lord\_Mondegreen](#): > > **James Otto Sweet Heart** , I was the one who first called you out for mentioning in a condolence thread that you thought that someone who committed suicide would suffer for all eternity. I don’t apologise (please excuse the non-US spelling - I’m Australian) for what I said, because I think you were totally out of line. Whatever your beliefs, they did not need to be aired in the way they were. > > Having said that, I also have no problem with you offering your God’s blessings to all and sundry. Yes, it’s annoying (particularly with the over use of smilies), but I understand that it is well-intentioned. I have stated in the past that even though I am an atheist, I am touched when someone says sincerely that they will pray for me. That’s because I know that what they are offering is to speak to the being they believe is responsible for creating the Universe and to ask Him to help me. Even though I believe this act is futile because I don’t think He exists, I still understand the gravity behind the act. > > You have posted stuff which irritates me no end, but I think this board would be a better place if the pile-on you have endured had not happened. There are plenty of posts in this place which irritate me in one way or another, but they contribute to the dialog. Unfortunately at the moment you are in the spotlight, and frankly the way you are responding seems almost deliberately fashioned to ellicit a certain kind of reaction. > > I have no idea whether you want to be a long-term member of this site. If so, please graciously disengage from this thread and contribute to other ones (not always mentioning your favourite performer). If not, please stop posting here and may your God be with you always. > > Unfortunately this thread seems to have reached the stage where you feel that to stop responding would indicate that you have “lost” somehow. I can only speak personally, but I would never think that was the case. If you were to post something like, “I will never change my beliefs so I’ve said all I will say, but I’m sorry for those who are offended by my posting style” and then went on to contribute to other threads, I’m pretty sure that would result in a great conclusion. Otherwise I fear we will see an epic trainwreck, which will reflect badly on everyone. > > I wish you happiness always, and I hope you will find a way to contribute positively to this board. This. There is much wisdom in this post. And **JOSH** , I noticed a couple of your posts in the last 24 hours didn’t include the smilies in your signature. Thank you for that. I know, it’s a silly thing for so many of us to be fixated on - and I’m not even anti-smilie; I use them myself - but it’s kind of difficult to describe how irritating it is. So thanks for scaling it back a little. I still encourage you to consider putting the rest of your sign-off in a Signature so that people can turn it off if they don’t want to see it. I bet you’d even find a willing volunteer to pay for your Membership so you can do that. I’ve seen some sweet posts from you on other topics. I hope you stick around and we can one day giggle about this rough entry into the board culture, the way we do with some other posters now. I truly mean this, this is not sarcasm: Love and Blessings of the Lord and Lady to you, my dear. May you hold Their Love, Light and Laughter in your heart all your days on this Earth. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Troppus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Troppus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troppus)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/822 "2013-02-24T17:03:48Z")
> [@the lone cashew](#): > > Why not just quit ganging up on the poster, let them attempt to contribute elsewhere. Let things take their course. You folks don’t realize how sad you’re making yourselves look in this thread. Wow, your neck hurt from that 180? ---
**Author:** ![Ostrya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/35a633/32.png) [@Ostrya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ostrya)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/823 "2013-02-24T17:36:21Z")
I would ask what you’re talking about but since it’s you, Troppus, I don’t care. I read a lot more than I post, have had you pegged as some kind of fruitcake a long time ago. And now you can join my ignore list. Have fun during your stay here at The Straight Dope. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/824 "2013-02-24T17:40:22Z")
Oh, _snap_. ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/825 "2013-02-24T17:55:06Z")
> [@the lone cashew](#): > > . . . have had you pegged as some kind of fruitcake a long time ago. I’m sorry, but given your user name I just had to laugh my ass off at that line. 😃 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Troppus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Troppus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troppus)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/826 "2013-02-24T18:07:04Z")
> [@the lone cashew](#): > > I would ask what you’re talking about but since it’s you, Troppus, I don’t care. I read a lot more than I post, have had you pegged as some kind of fruitcake a long time ago. And now you can join my ignore list. Have fun during your stay here at The Straight Dope. You must have forgotten attacking my request for the mods to have mercy on this poster in ATMB. I prayed for your heart to turn!! 🙂 x 3 ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/827 "2013-02-24T18:18:59Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I would think so, yes. And I always assume that anyone telling people what God wants or thinks is projecting, particularly since it always seems to magically coincide with what they want or think. > > How does that follow? There’s a difference between saying “God must know what He’s doing” and “I must believe anyone else who says that they know what God wants”; in fact they’d be contradictory positions since the whole point of this position is that _nobody_ gets a direct line to God and the Grand Plan and anyone who says that they have one is deluded. At most, the position I laid out is a “Que sera, sera” one, since whatever happens is what God hath willed. > > I should add that this is all a purely theoretical stance from my viewpoint; I am not any sort of theist. Yeah, I have no idea where the hell I was going with that train of thought. I read it now and it makes no sense to me. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/828 "2013-02-24T19:22:22Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > Why does Holly call herself his Sweet Heart, anyway? You sound like you are asking other people here when they are not going to know because they are not me. To answer what you are asking, James called me “Sweet heart” in one of the first messages that I ever got from him and it has stayed with me ever since. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > [@Lord\_Mondegreen](#): > > I wish you happiness always, and I hope you will find a way to contribute positively to this board. Thank you for saying that and if you want to see what I have said in other chats so far, just run a search on what I have said here so far. I just checked and so far I have been a part of 95 chats here all together. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > [@WhyNot](#): > > I’ve seen some sweet posts from you on other topics. I hope you stick around and we can one day giggle about this rough entry into the board culture, the way we do with some other posters now. > > I truly mean this, this is not sarcasm: Love and Blessings of the Lord and Lady to you, my dear. May you hold Their Love, Light and Laughter in your heart all your days on this Earth. 🙂 Thank you for saying that. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you three and James always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly P.S. If the smiley faces are not in my messages, it is because they are not appropriate for whatever is being addressed. I have to go for now. Y’all be careful where ever you decide to do for the day! 🙂 🙂 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/829 "2013-02-24T19:33:10Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > Yeah, I have no idea where the hell I was going with that train of thought. I read it now and it makes no sense to me. It was all part of the Master Plan. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Dord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@The\_Dord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Dord)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/830 "2013-02-24T22:24:02Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > It was all part of the Master Plan. The [Master Plan?](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvERHiTfx9w) ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/831 "2013-02-25T01:29:23Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > To answer what you are asking, James called me “Sweet heart” in one of the first messages that I ever got from him and it has stayed with me ever since. 🙂 🙂 🙂 So James is a poor speller. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/832 "2013-02-25T01:52:46Z")
^^^ What do you think James misspelled? God bless you and him always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly P.S. What James wrote to me was this: “Holly don’t worry sweet heart.” 🙂 🙂 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/833 "2013-02-25T02:01:34Z")
“Sweetheart” is one word, not two. “Misspelled” is perhaps not accurate, but I diagnose him with a clear mental disorder. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/834 "2013-02-25T02:06:52Z")
^^^ You act like James is the only person to ever misspell anything. God bless you and him always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/835 "2013-02-25T02:09:28Z")
Maybe he just thought she was a sweet-hearted person. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/836 "2013-02-25T02:09:56Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ You act like James is the only person to ever **misspell** anything. > > God bless you and him always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 > > Holly Well, no, because you did just there. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/837 "2013-02-25T02:12:18Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Well, no, because you did just there. Misspell is correct. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/838 "2013-02-25T02:17:41Z")
D’oh! :smack: One-upped by that vixen yet again! ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/839 "2013-02-25T05:20:38Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ You act like James is the only person to ever misspell anything. > > God bless you and him always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 > > Holly “May Jesus lick the sin from your disobedient flesh all ways.” – Joefacetious (1st century Roman historian) ---
**Author:** ![April\_R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@April\_R](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/April_R)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/840 "2013-02-25T14:58:54Z")
> [@deltasigma](#): > > “May Jesus lick the sin from your disobedient flesh all ways.” > – Joefacetious (1st century Roman historian) That sounds dirty 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=41) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=43)