# James Otto Sweet Heart and Damning Suicides to Hell **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 19, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764 "2013-02-19T03:08:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 49
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/961 "2013-03-11T01:36:47Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > They’re not ‘chats’, they’re ‘threads’. > > If I had to hold that in one more minute, I’d explode. > > I feel better now. The last time that I checked I don’t have to call them what everyone else calls them. Also thread is something that goes into a needle that you sew with. > [@Monty](#): > > It’s already been proven that you have lied on this forum. And that’s no spin. By the way, what exactly do you mean by “people like you”? I mean people like you who think that you can kick to the floor someone who isn’t like you. > [@curlcoat](#): > > I’m not on the losing end of this. You’ve already been proven a liar previously, then you went on to try to claim you’ve been caring for an adult since you were 4. Or are you simply not aware that partial truths are the same as lies? > > You also chose not to answer questions that might expose you in a lie. > > As for wishing harm, you wish to believe that suicides go to hell. Not only is that wishing harm on their souls (should such things exist) but also harms anyone and everyone who cared about the person who committed suicide. That is just plain mean. What is it anyways that y’all think that I have lied about? As for what my beliefs are, if you think that they are mean, oh well. That is a choice that you show no sign of changing, so why should I change what I believe in? Even if you changed the way that you think of what I believe in, I still wouldn’t change what I believe in because what I believe in makes sense to me, whether it makes sense to other people or not. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > First she says she did it alone – no, that was alone – at age 4, then she denies she said it was on her own. Oh what a tangled web we weave … I never said that I did it alone at age 4, but if that is the idea that you and everyone else here ended up getting, it was never once my intention to give y’all such an impression. > [@Cyros](#): > > Not to nitpick, well okay, to nitpick, your quotes don’t back up your claim. She said she had been helping to take care of someone since she was 4 (fairly unbelievable in any meaningful way) and has been doing it alone since 16. I’ve been doing it alone since 14, not 16. God bless you five always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/962 "2013-03-11T01:46:46Z")
Liar, liar, …you know the rest! ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/963 "2013-03-11T01:53:20Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > I lie to no one no matter how people like you try to spin it. > I lie to no one no matter how people like you try to spin it. > **For the past 27 years I have been taking care of someone who isn’t able to do a lot of things** and for the last 16 of those years and still counting, I have been taking care of the person alone. > God bless you always!!! > Holly > [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > The last time that I checked I don’t have to call them what everyone else calls them. Also thread is something that goes into a needle that you sew with. > **I never said that I did it alone at age 4,** but if that is the idea that you and everyone else here ended up getting, it was never once my intention to give y’all such an impression. > > I’ve been doing it alone since 14, not 16. > God bless you five always!!! > Holly You implied that it’s been since you were 4. You need to communicate more clearly. Or stop stretching the truth. Never heard the expression “the thread of the conversation.”? It means the main topic. Just like each thread here has a main topic. A chat wanders from topic to topic. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/964 "2013-03-11T01:58:37Z")
^^^ I haven’t stretched the truth. Right now it has been 16 years that I have taken care of my mom alone, but all together it has been 27 years because I was four when she first got sick in 1986. In July of this year, it will be 17 years because July of 1996 is when we left where we used to live and came here to East Tennessee. > [@Baker](#): > > Liar, liar, …you know the rest! Actually I don’t know the rest and it is because I don’t know what y’all think that I have lied about. God bless you two and my mom always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/965 "2013-03-11T01:59:33Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > I’ve been doing it alone since 14, not 16. > > Holly Sure, nitpick the nitpicker. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/966 "2013-03-11T02:10:19Z")
^^^ I’m just pointing out what is. 1996 is when my parents divorce was final and my sister left to go off on her own and that was the year that I turned 14. God bless you and my mom always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/967 "2013-03-11T02:13:40Z")
I’m getting some rather satanic vibes from you. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/968 "2013-03-11T02:16:07Z")
^^^ Oh well. That is all on you then. God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/969 "2013-03-11T02:19:09Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ Oh well. That is all on you then. > God bless you always!!! > Holly Get thee behind me, Satan! ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/970 "2013-03-11T02:22:50Z")
^^^ First of all I have to be him and since that I am not, I guess that puts you right out of luck. God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/971 "2013-03-11T02:33:15Z")
You sound like a petulant three year old. " I don’t have to. You can’t make me". Yes, you can call anything by any word you want. You could call an elephant a wallaby all day long. You’ll still look stupid if you do. Fitting in and making small adjustments to your style isn’t against the Ten Commandments, you know. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/972 "2013-03-11T02:35:45Z")
^^^ I’m still waiting on someone to tell me what it is that y’all think that I have lied about. God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/973 "2013-03-11T02:39:18Z")
Perhaps you are Pazuzu then? Because you are certainly a demon possessing this board against it’s will! Apoligies to any ancient Assyrians, or Futurama fans ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/974 "2013-03-11T02:42:09Z")
^^^ I’m still waiting on someone to tell me what it is that y’all think that I have lied about. God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![Tollhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@Tollhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tollhouse)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/975 "2013-03-11T02:46:58Z")
You clearly stated thatu began “taking care” of your mom when you were 4. What type of things did you do to take care of her? Did you cook for her, dispense her medication, make her doctor appointments, …? Because when you tell us you were “taking care of her” that means you were doing some type of.tasks for her. Please give us some idea what types of things you did at age four to help her ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/976 "2013-03-11T02:49:25Z")
^^^ I helped her get dressed and I washed her hair for her and as I got older, I started doing other things like house chores that she couldn’t do herself. God bless you always!!! Holly P.S. I’m still waiting on someone to tell me what it is that y’all think that I have lied about. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/977 "2013-03-11T02:50:52Z")
Look, Helly (I can call you Helly right, since I don’t have to call a thing what its actually, y’know, named) I don’t know what people are saying you lied about. But I know this is a thread not a chat. Would you tell someone “nice cat” if you were looking at their dog? And then tell them you can call it a cat if you want if they corrected you? ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/978 "2013-03-11T02:54:22Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ I’m still waiting on someone to tell me what it is that y’all think that I have lied about. > God bless you always!!! > Holly I assume your ^^^ means you were referring to me (when the quote function would be so much easier), but I never said you lied. I was calling you a fool, not a liar. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/979 "2013-03-11T02:54:28Z")
^^^ Oh well. Some people here are saying that I have lied and I would like to know what it is that they think that I have lied about. > [@raventhief](#): > > Look, Helly (I can call you Helly right, since I don’t have to call a thing what its actually, y’know, named) I don’t know what people are saying you lied about. But I know this is a thread not a chat. Would you tell someone “nice cat” if you were looking at their dog? And then tell them you can call it a cat if you want if they corrected you? I say “chat” because that is what we are doing. We are chatting with each other. God bless you two always!!! Holly P.S. And no, you may not call me “Helly” because that it most definitely not my name, but is that going to stop you from calling me that? I highly doubt it. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/980 "2013-03-11T02:57:30Z")
I dunno, will you stop calling it a chat since it clearly bothers multiple people on this board? Tell ya what - I won’t call you Helly if you won’t call threads “chats”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=48) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=50)