# James Otto Sweet Heart and Damning Suicides to Hell

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 19, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764 "2013-02-19T03:08:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/981 "2013-03-11T02:58:56Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ I say “chat” because that is what we are doing. We are chatting with each other.  
> God bless you always!!!  
> Holly  
> P.S. And no, you may not call me “Helly”, but is that going to stop you from calling me that. I highly doubt it.

But message board convention says that chats are real-time discussion and threads are posted topic-responses. You wouldn’t call mailing a letter or send an email “a chat”. You can consider yourself to BE chatting with someone IN a thread, if you want, but that doesn’t make the thread “a chat”.

Just cause you can buy some prepared foods and eat in a grocery store doesn’t make it a restaurant. There are such things as specific definitions of words.

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/982 "2013-03-11T03:03:01Z")

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^^^ What is so wrong about me having another name for what the rest of y’all call a “thread”? Y’all call things like you see them, do you not? Well so do I.

> [@raventhief](#):
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> I dunno, will you stop calling it a chat since it clearly bothers multiple people on this board?
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> Tell ya what - I won’t call you Helly if you won’t call threads “chats”.

My having another name for what the rest of y’all call “threads” isn’t doing anything wrong, so why should I quit calling them what I want to call them? What do you think is going on in what the rest of y’all call “threads”? To me, it looks like chatting, so what I call what you people call a “thread”: chat.  
God bless you two always!!!  
Holly

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/983 "2013-03-11T03:07:12Z")

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How about it Helly?

Helly! Helly! Helly!

Give me an H!

Give me an E!

Give me a double L!

Give me a Y!

What’s that spell?

_ **James Otto Sweet Heart!** _

yay!

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**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/984 "2013-03-11T03:14:23Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ What is so wrong about me having another name for what the rest of y’all call a “thread”? Y’all call things like you see them, do you not? Well so do I.  
> My having another name for what the rest of y’all call “threads” isn’t doing anything wrong, so why should I quit calling them what I want to call them? What do you think is going on in what the rest of y’all call “threads”? To me, it looks like chatting, so what I call what you people call a “thread”: chat.  
> God bless you two always!!!  
> Holly

Jesus Fuck. I’ve never seen anyone make being a moron such a point of pride.

“I act stupid and say stupid things and I don’t care if anyone calls me stupid! I love being stupid!!! God bless you always!!!”

Seriously, why are you carrying on this valiant crusade to remain an idiot? Do you somehow think there is nobility in idiocy?

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/985 "2013-03-11T03:17:40Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ What is so wrong about me having another name for what the rest of y’all call a “thread”? Y’all call things like you see them, do you not? Well so do I.  
> My having another name for what the rest of y’all call “threads” isn’t doing anything wrong, so why should I quit calling them what I want to call them? What do you think is going on in what the rest of y’all call “threads”? To me, it looks like chatting, so what I call what you people call a “thread”: chat.  
> God bless you two always!!!  
> Holly

It’s a pattern of behavior. You keep showing a rampant disregard for the culture of the group you chose to join. There is a happy medium between doing what only you want and being like everyone else. It’s ok to have individual personality but its also ok to follow the cultural norms of a social group. When the medium of communication is words, agreeing on a set definition is usually the best way to communicate.

Not caring about how you come off is arrogant.

Saying “I don’t have to, so there” is childish.

When the bulk of your interactions annoys people, maybe it’s not everyone else’s fault.

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/986 "2013-03-11T03:18:34Z")

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> [@splatterpunk](#):
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> Jesus Fuck. I’ve never seen anyone make being a moron such a point of pride.
> 
> “I act stupid and say stupid things and I don’t care if anyone calls me stupid! I love being stupid!!! God bless you always!!!”
> 
> Seriously, why are you carrying on this valiant crusade to remain an idiot? Do you somehow think there is nobility in idiocy?

Like I have said in the past, if you can’t accept the fact that I do not walk your way, that is **your** problem, not mine.  
God bless you always!!!  
Holly

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/987 "2013-03-11T03:19:34Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ Like I have said in the past, if you can’t accept the fact that I do not walk your way, that is **your** problem, not mine.  
> God bless you always!!!  
> Holly

And if you can’t accept the fact that your indifference to other people’s feelings gets old after awhile, that’s YOUR problem. Just because you’ve said it before, don’t make it right. Just because its your opinion don’t make it truth.  
(And just in case it escaped you, the poor grammar was a rhetorical device.)

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/988 "2013-03-11T03:23:33Z")

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^^^ Oh well then. Y’all are not going to get what it is that y’all want out of me because I refuse to change, so that leaves y’all with two choices, you can either continue to waste your time harassing me about what you are not going to get out of me or you can just ignore me.  
God bless you always!!!  
Holly

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**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/989 "2013-03-11T03:24:49Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> Like I have said in the past, if you can’t accept the fact that I do not walk your way, that is **your** problem, not mine.  
> God bless you always!!!  
> Holly

No, it isn’t my problem - it’s yours. Nobody here likes you. Does that mean nothing to you?

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/990 "2013-03-11T03:25:10Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ Oh well then. Y’all are not going to get what it is that y’all want out of me because I refuse to change, so that leaves y’all with two choices, you can either continue to waste your time harassing me about what you are not going to get out of me or you can just ignore me.  
> God bless you always!!!  
> Holly

Yup, and it’s that attitude that makes you a fool. You do have some ownership over how people respond to you. We know you don’t care. Just don’t pretend you’re a nice person if you don’t.

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/991 "2013-03-11T03:28:40Z")

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> [@splatterpunk](#):
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> No, it isn’t my problem - it’s yours. Nobody here likes you. Does that mean nothing to you?

If no here likes me, there is nothing that I can do to change your mind or anyone else’s.  
God bless you always!!!  
Holly

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**Author:** ![Tollhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@Tollhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tollhouse)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/992 "2013-03-11T03:29:00Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ I helped her get dressed and I washed her hair for her and as I got older, I started doing other things like house chores that she couldn’t do herself.  
> God bless you always!!!  
> Holly  
> P.S. I’m still waiting on someone to tell me what it is that y’all think that I have lied about.

I know when i was four, i was too short to wash an adults hair, bc it involves standing on a stool, to barely reach the faucet,…you must have been an exceptionally tall child. Also four year olds have trouble getting themselves dressed. Did you nave to somenow reach up to the hangers in her closet, and then somehow , hmmmm, , like I said, you must have been exceptionally tall and unusually coordinated for a four yr old

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/993 "2013-03-11T03:31:43Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> If no here likes me, there is nothing that I can do to change your mind or anyone else’s.  
> God bless you always!!!  
> Holly

Or you could try and see what happens. People are annoyed with you because of your candy-coated rudeness. Stop that attitude and actually be considerate and nice and things might change for the better.

Or admit that annoying folks doesn’t matter to you and you’re not a nice person after all.

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/994 "2013-03-11T03:34:52Z")

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^^^ I don’t have anything to admit, but if you have someone to ignore, why waste anymore time putting up with them?

> [@Tollhouse](#):
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> I know when i was four, i was too short to wash an adults hair, bc it involves standing on a stool, to barely reach the faucet,…you must have been an exceptionally tall child. Also four year olds have trouble getting themselves dressed. Did you nave to somenow reach up to the hangers in her closet, and then somehow , hmmmm, , like I said, you must have been exceptionally tall and unusually coordinated for a four yr old

I got things out of my mom’s dresser drawers and climbed up on the kitchen counter to do her hair for her.  
God bless you two and my mom always!!!  
Holly

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**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/995 "2013-03-11T03:38:45Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> If no here likes me, there is nothing that I can do to change your mind or anyone else’s.  
> God bless you always!!!  
> Holly

Yes, there is something you can do. It’s what most people who’ve been socialized learned to do as children: figure out what is and is not acceptable within a social group and modify your behavior accordingly. Fucking monkeys and puppies learn this shit at an early age.

I would suggest that if you examined your interactions with the people on this board with that in mind, it might help you to understand why you have no friends.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/996 "2013-03-11T03:41:53Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ I don’t have anything to admit, but if you have someone to ignore, why waste anymore time putting up with them?

I mostly don’t. This is our first interactions. However, I have opinions and feelings that I have the right to say. You asked some questions and out of curtesy I chose to try explain myself in hopes you might learn something. Plus, I find the ignore function a distraction. Don’t worry, you’re not that hard to ignore. Doesn’t mean I’d rather I didn’t have to.

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/997 "2013-03-11T03:50:09Z")

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^^^ Obviously I must be hard to ignore because plenty of people here don’t hesitate to respond to what they can’t stand to see come from my end of this forum.  
God bless you always!!!  
Holly

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/998 "2013-03-11T03:54:17Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ Obviously I must be hard to ignore because plenty of people here don’t hesitate to respond to what they can’t stand to see come from my end of this forum.  
> God bless you always!!!  
> Holly

I have a question- your attitude suggests that you believe that people don’t have the right to expect that other people to stop doing stuff that they find annoying, when asked. Is that how you live your life? If someone is bothering you, on the bus or at work or wherever, do you feel you don’t have have the right to expect them to quit it? Are your choices simply to give in or ignore it?

If that’s the case, you’re wrong. You have the right to have people stop bothering you, too.

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/999 "2013-03-11T04:06:56Z")

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^^^ If I have a problem with something that can’t be changed, either I deal with it or leave because I am the one who has the problem.  
God bless you always!!!  
Holly

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**Author:** ![living\_in\_hell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@living\_in\_hell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/living_in_hell)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1000 "2013-03-11T04:13:30Z")

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> [@missred](#):
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> She’s polite? She’s southern (east Tennessee doesn’t really count as the south. She may be a hillbilly, but she’s not really southern).

Are you really as stupid as you act? It’s hard to tell under your bitchy demeanor.

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