# James Otto Sweet Heart and Damning Suicides to Hell **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 19, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764 "2013-02-19T03:08:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 52
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1021 "2013-03-12T00:25:58Z")
^^^ Like I said earlier, if you don’t like what comes from me, put my messages here on ignore because I change for no one. Either accept me for the way that I am or find someone who is more like you to chat with here. Why y’all don’t already do that is the big mystery in my opinion. God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1022 "2013-03-12T00:36:00Z")
She changes for no one, folks. For NO ONE! ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1023 "2013-03-12T01:22:34Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ Like I said earlier, if you don’t like what comes from me, put my messages here on ignore because I change for no one. Either accept me for the way that I am or find someone who is more like you to chat with here. Why y’all don’t already do that is the big mystery in my opinion. > God bless you always!!! > Holly Helly, you are such a stupid bitch that you don’t realize that you’d have nobody to insult if we all found someone who is more like us. What would you do then, you lying cow? Oh, and I went to Youtube to check out this asshole James Otto you praise so highly. Let’s just say, I’ve heard better and more original music at many an amateur hour. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1024 "2013-03-12T01:28:12Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > **P.S. Believe this or not, but people at another forum that I go to have thanked me for my being different. Why?** Only they can tell you why, but since y’all don’t know them, my guess would be that they are sick of seeing the same old things on the forum **all the time**. 🙂 🙂 🙂 Because your life serves as a warning to others? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1025 "2013-03-12T01:30:49Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > She changes for no one, folks. > > For NO ONE! So maybe it’s time to move on? I realize I’m being a hypocrite. I piled on the abuse early in this thread. But come on, Holly’s attackers are starting to look kinda ridiculous. She is posting ok stuff in other threads, mainly involving music. For whatever length of time she has dealt with caring for her mother, and she has used coping mechanisms for handling adversity like we all have. No, I haven’t found The Lord, I’m still a strong atheist. So strong that I can accept the ceremonial deism I see all the time. I wish Holly only the best and feel like a jerk for my earlier behavior. So, move on? ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1026 "2013-03-12T01:39:53Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > Helly, you are such a stupid bitch that you don’t realize that you’d have nobody to insult if we all found someone who is more like us. What would you do then, you lying cow? > > Oh, and I went to Youtube to check out this asshole James Otto you praise so highly. Let’s just say, I’ve heard better and more original music at many an amateur hour. I don’t go to the message forums that I am at to insult anyone or to lie to anyone either. I do have a question for you though. You keep accusing me of being a liar, right? Well if you do not have any intention of believing anything that you see online, why do you go online at all then??? To accuse everyone that you run across online of being a liar? Well if you think that you are the only person online who is honest, how do you think that it makes you look when you decide to continue to have anything to do with those that you think are full of crap? Oh and if you don’t go for James, that is just another loss to add to your already long list. God bless you and him always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1027 "2013-03-12T01:39:57Z")
Eh. She’s so over the top she’s either a troll, or so self involved to be immune. She likes yanking chains, and folks like sending zingers. If she appeared vulnerable or truly bothered by any of this, sure. She obviously doesn’t care and for all her talk of us putting her on ignore, she’s not walking away either. Frankly I was pretty much bored of her, wrote a few posts, got bored again, but that last one was so too much, how could one not take the bait? ---
**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1028 "2013-03-12T01:40:07Z")
Holly, you keep telling everyone to put you on ignore. Let’s talk about this for a second. I’m going to use an analogy here, so play along. You buy a house in a lovely neighborhood. One of the things you liked about this neighborhood was how nice and neat all the houses were. It’s a very classy looking neighborhood. So you move into your house and start meeting your neighbors. They all seem like decent smart people. They are proud of their neighborhood. So, you are there for a few weeks, and you decide to paint your house purple and orange. Just because these are James’ favorite colors. All of the other houses in your neighborhood are tan or gray or some other common exterior color, but, as it turns out, there is nothing in the zoning laws or the community by laws expressly forbidding you from your crazy painting ideas, so you do it. Your neighbors now hate your house, and they resent what you have done to the neighborhood. Their property values go down because of your house, many people are unhappy with you. But when you talk to your neighbors, you tell them “hey, if you don’t like it, you can just ignore it”. Doesn’t work, does it? See, this is what you are doing here on this forum. You come in, and ignore the expected way of conducting yourself, and then just say " Well, y’all can just ignore little ole me". You walk into our forum, take a big old dump of stupid right in the floor, and then god bless us for not being able to just ignore it. By the way, I know you don’t have a house, I have no idea what colors Joshy likes, and it’s an imaginary neighborhood. Look up the meaning of analogy before posting some crap like “but, I don’t even have a house”. ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1029 "2013-03-12T01:44:52Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > So, move on? As long as her barely concealed, passive-aggressive, borderline personality issues aren’t in my face, it’s pretty easy to forget she exists. So sure, sounds like a plan. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1030 "2013-03-12T01:52:18Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > Like I said, if you don’t like what comes from me, put my messages here on ignore. No response to your selfishness, your lying, whether you want to be able to interact in polite society? Does that mean you agree with these things? > [@](#): > > P.S. Oh and I am not giving you a link to the message forum that I mentioned in my earlier message because I am not about to give you or anyone else here the ability to harass who has actually been good to me because when a person is good to be me, I **don’t** do something that is going to make them miserable in return. Uh huh. In other words, there is no such place. > [@kayaker](#): > > So maybe it’s time to move on? I realize I’m being a hypocrite. I piled on the abuse early in this thread. But come on, Holly’s attackers are starting to look kinda ridiculous. > > She is posting ok stuff in other threads, mainly involving music. For whatever length of time she has dealt with caring for her mother, and she has used coping mechanisms for handling adversity like we all have. > > No, I haven’t found The Lord, I’m still a strong atheist. So strong that I can accept the ceremonial deism I see all the time. I wish Holly only the best and feel like a jerk for my earlier behavior. > > So, move on? Naw, she’s just too obtuse. OTOH, I was happy to ignore her until dingleberry there revived the thread so as long as she isn’t in my face I don’t really care either way. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1031 "2013-03-12T01:57:30Z")
^^^ Yes there is such a forum, and if you really are as smart as you think you are, there would be no reason for you to ask me where you can find it, because you could find it yourself. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > [@leftfield6](#): > > Holly, you keep telling everyone to put you on ignore. Let’s talk about this for a second. I’m going to use an analogy here, so play along. > > You buy a house in a lovely neighborhood. One of the things you liked about this neighborhood was how nice and neat all the houses were. It’s a very classy looking neighborhood. So you move into your house and start meeting your neighbors. They all seem like decent smart people. They are proud of their neighborhood. > > So, you are there for a few weeks, and you decide to paint your house purple and orange. Just because these are James’ favorite colors. All of the other houses in your neighborhood are tan or gray or some other common exterior color, but, as it turns out, there is nothing in the zoning laws or the community by laws expressly forbidding you from your crazy painting ideas, so you do it. > > Your neighbors now hate your house, and they resent what you have done to the neighborhood. Their property values go down because of your house, many people are unhappy with you. But when you talk to your neighbors, you tell them “hey, if you don’t like it, you can just ignore it”. > > Doesn’t work, does it? > > See, this is what you are doing here on this forum. You come in, and ignore the expected way of conducting yourself, and then just say " Well, y’all can just ignore little ole me". You walk into our forum, take a big old dump of stupid right in the floor, and then god bless us for not being able to just ignore it. > > By the way, I know you don’t have a house, I have no idea what colors Joshy likes, and it’s an imaginary neighborhood. Look up the meaning of analogy before posting some crap like “but, I don’t even have a house”. I actually do live in a house and at the end of May, it will be 16 years that I have lived in it. 🙂 🙂 🙂 The story that you give me in this message of yours is actually similar to an experience that John Rich had. In case you don’t know who that is, John is one half of the country duo Big & Rich and just happens to be James’s co-producer, co-writer, and Muzik Mafia brother as well. 😃 😃 😃 Anyways, those who live around John do not like what he has had done to his property and if my memory serves me, they can’t do a thing about it because John was within his rights. What did they end up doing? I don’t know about them, but I believe that when the dust finally settled, John did not have to change a thing. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you two and him and James always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![missred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/missred/32/14096_2.png) [@missred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missred)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1032 "2013-03-12T02:15:13Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > I don’t go to the message forums that I am at to insult anyone or to lie to anyone either. I do have a question for you though. You keep accusing me of being a liar, right? Well if you do not have any intention of believing anything that you see online, why do you go online at all then??? To accuse everyone that you run across online of being a liar? Well if you think that you are the only person online who is honest, how do you think that it makes you look when you decide to continue to have anything to do with those that you think are full of crap? > > Oh and if you don’t go for James, that is just another loss to add to your already long list. > God bless you and him always!!! > Holly Did it ever occur to you that you are on a forum heavily populated by computer geeks and internet gurus? It’s not that hard to verify or not verify some of the stuff you’ve posted here and on other sites. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![missred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/missred/32/14096_2.png) [@missred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missred)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1033 "2013-03-12T02:18:25Z")
Oh, and BTW, WTF did you do to piss **Baker** off? She’s one of the nicest people on the internet and you have her cursing. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1034 "2013-03-12T02:25:37Z")
^^^ I am guessing that they don’t like my calling them out. Well if they can’t take it, they should haven’t have dished it out in the first place. Maybe my being willing to return what it is that they decide to give to me is what ticks them off. If that is what has got them so mad, I just have one question for them then. Why should I have to keep what it is that I don’t like myself? When people give me presents on my birthday and at Christmas time, they tell that I can exchange it if there is anything wrong with it. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you and Baker and those who have given me presents always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1035 "2013-03-12T03:17:00Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > It is if you have any desire to interact with the rest of the world in an way other than as an adversary. I may have mentioned this before, but that’s the only way she wants to interact with anyone at all. She can now tell herself how blessed she is because of the abuse she’s received, in her mind, at the hands of others. Of course, she completely misunderstands that bit of Scripture, but, hey, that’s par for the course with a certain element of Fundamentalists. Oh, and she’s also completely ignoring the Scriptural stance on dishonesty and how to treat other people. Yeah, she’s not actually a martyr but this is the nearest she can get to being one without expending too much effort. I mean, look at how her lies don’t mesh. If she expended a bit of effort, her fiction would at least be consistent. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1036 "2013-03-12T03:30:55Z")
^^^ I lie to nobody, no matter how y’all try to spin anything that I have to say here or anywhere else. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you always!!! Holly P.S. Oh and if you get dizzy and throw up from all the spinning that you choose to do, you brought it all on yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1037 "2013-03-12T03:40:15Z")
Define _spin_, liar. After all, nobody in this thread has “spun” a bloody thing, other than your tangled web. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1038 "2013-03-12T03:45:50Z")
^^^ I lie to nobody, no matter how y’all try to spin anything that I have to say here or anywhere else. God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1039 "2013-03-12T04:05:53Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > I went to Youtube to check out this asshole James Otto you praise so highly. Only a person who is one them self would be able to spot who they think is another one. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you and James always!!! Holly P.S. To me, James couldn’t be more of a precious beautiful sweet hearted teddy bear. 🙂 🙂 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1040 "2013-03-12T04:19:01Z")
Hey Holly. Seems our longtime friend and charter member Opalcat has most probably killed herself. Wanna make a few more enemies? Pop over to the MPSIMS thread announcing her passing, and offer your little wisdom about where she might be right now if she did commit suicide. God bless you to hell always! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=51) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=53)