# James Otto Sweet Heart and Damning Suicides to Hell **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 19, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764 "2013-02-19T03:08:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 55
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1081 "2013-03-12T18:51:13Z")
> [@Cheshire\_Human](#): > > 😕 That was a couple of weeks ago, and you _already_ reamed me for it. ☹ Good. > [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > These aren’t “chats.” I can only assume you’re also using “eyebrows” in place of something else being raised. Then why are you in here chatting with us? If you don’t want to chat feel free to wander off and do something else. ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1082 "2013-03-12T19:59:48Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ I don’t believe that burying it as if nothing ever happened is the answer either. I am just saying that being reminded of it constantly is not going to help a person move forward when being reminded of it only makes you go backwards. And of course we’re all going to accept your false assumptions about what therapy is. :rolleyes: Do you really think we’re as stupid as you look? ---
**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1083 "2013-03-12T20:36:06Z")
Never mind. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1084 "2013-03-12T22:16:24Z")
> [@deltasigma](#): > > And of course we’re all going to accept your false assumptions about what therapy is. :rolleyes: > > Do you really think we’re as stupid as you look? After all that has happened here already where I am concerned, I don’t expect y’all to accept anything that I have to say, but oh well. That is just something that everyone has to consider when saying anything anywhere and I think that I have shown that I am willing to deal with whatever is thrown at me over what it is that I have to say. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1085 "2013-03-12T22:21:05Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > After all that has happened here already where I am concerned, I don’t expect y’all to accept anything that I have to say, but oh well. That is just something that everyone has to consider when saying anything anywhere and I think that I have shown that I am willing to deal with whatever is thrown at me over what it is that I have to say. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > God bless you always!!! > Holly The only thing worse than an ignorant person is an ignorant person who refuses to recognize their ignorance. If you think what bothers people here is your “different” ideas, well, you’re sort of on the right track. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1086 "2013-03-12T22:35:00Z")
^^^ Aren’t we all a “work in progress” in one way or another? If not, congrats to those who have gone as far as a person can. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1087 "2013-03-12T22:37:27Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ Aren’t we all a “work in progress” in one way or another? If not, congrats to those who have gone as far as a person can. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > God bless you always!!! > Holly When you show some signs of progress sweetie, I’ll be the first one to cut you some slack. But until then . . . ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1088 "2013-03-12T22:41:23Z")
^^^ You do know that progress in the opinion of one person can be a downward spiral in the opinion of another person right? God bless you always!!! Holly P.S. I just now happened to see this quote at the Twitter website: **“The best way to stand out is to stop trying to fit in.”** 🙂 🙂 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1089 "2013-03-12T22:46:48Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ You do know that progress in the opinion of one person can be a downward spiral in the opinion of another person right? > God bless you always!!! > Holly > P.S. I just now happened to see this quote at the Twitter website: **“The best way to stand out is to stop trying to fit in.”** 🙂 🙂 🙂 And when you find yourself at the bottom of a deep hole of stupidity, it’s best not to grab a shovel and start digging. 😛 edit: I just made that up. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1090 "2013-03-12T23:01:31Z")
^^^ And don’t be surprised when the hole that you find yourself in can’t get any deeper. God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1091 "2013-03-12T23:04:03Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ And don’t be surprised when the hole that you find yourself in can’t get any deeper. > God bless you always!!! > Holly Well by then you’d be in hell wouldn’t you? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1092 "2013-03-12T23:07:52Z")
^^^ Thank you for letting me know how much it is that you don’t know. God bless you always!!! Holly P.S. My previous message was a figure of speech. ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1093 "2013-03-12T23:11:11Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ Thank you for letting me know how much it is that you don’t know. > God bless you always!!! > Holly > P.S. My previous message was a figure of speech. Oh dear. So you mean hell isn’t real after all? You’re such a hypocrite. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1094 "2013-03-12T23:14:16Z")
^^^ I wasn’t talking about Hell in my previous messages, but since **you** are asking me about it, I believe that it is a real place. God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1095 "2013-03-12T23:18:21Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ I wasn’t talking about Hell in my previous messages, but since **you** are asking me about it, I believe that it is a real place. > God bless you always!!! > Holly I’m sure you do, just as I’m sure you believe knowledge and understanding are the fastest way to get there. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1096 "2013-03-12T23:26:31Z")
^^^ I believe that not knowing the Lord as your savior and going against his word is how a person gets there. God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1097 "2013-03-12T23:30:16Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ I believe that not knowing the Lord as your savior and going against his word is how a person gets there. > God bless you always!!! > Holly In other words you don’t deny what I said. That’s ok. If you want to be proud of your ignorance, you have lots of company. It seems to be a requirement for being a fundamentalist Christian. Just don’t try to hide the fact. Be like the gays. Be loud and proud. I mean you’ve already got the ‘loud’ part down after all. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1098 "2013-03-12T23:42:36Z")
Holly, if you look at it a certain way, wasn’t Jesus himself a suicide? And if you can resist, I’d appreciate it, if you respond, if you’d not “God Bless me always”. If you don’t mind. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1099 "2013-03-12T23:49:00Z")
I don’t know why I keep opening this thread. She’s not even an interesting troll. She’s utterly predictable and boring. And I lose a handful of brain cells every time I check back in. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1100 "2013-03-12T23:54:10Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ I don’t believe that burying it as if nothing ever happened is the answer either. I am just saying that being reminded of it constantly is not going to help a person move forward when being reminded of it only makes you go backwards. As others have pointed out, that’s really not how therapy works. I say this was a digression but frankly the train of this thread jumped the tracks, plowed through the cornfield and headed off over the horizon several pages ago. So I’ll leave it at that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=54) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=56)