# James Otto Sweet Heart and Damning Suicides to Hell **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 19, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764 "2013-02-19T03:08:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 58
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1141 "2013-03-13T05:35:41Z")
^^^ I was talking to Monty about not breaking me, not you. And what makes you think that anyone would sit here and not saying anything after you have purposely flat out insulted them? That is what I was meaning by you making the first move. God bless you and Monty always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1142 "2013-03-13T05:38:36Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ I was talking to Monty about not breaking me, not you. And what makes you think that anyone would sit here and not saying anything after you have purposely flat out insulted them? That is what I was meaning by you making the first move. > God bless you and Monty always!!! > Holly I don’t know. You constantly insult people and seem shocked when they act insulted. Am I wrong to follow your example? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1143 "2013-03-13T05:44:36Z")
^^^ This all started when you people decided to jump on me for sharing a belief that the rest of you do not stand behind. Well if people sharing beliefs that you do not go for is insulting to y’all, why do you go online in the first place? Do you actually think that people who are just like you is all that you are going to find? If yes, then y’all are who still has a lot of growing up to do and I will pray hard that y’all do that growing up soon, but I am not going to get my hopes up because right now I do not see any of you growing up in such a way anytime soon. God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1144 "2013-03-13T05:47:02Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ This all started when you people decided to jump on me for sharing a belief that the rest of you do not stand behind. Well if people sharing beliefs that you do not go for is insulting to y’all, why do you go online in the first place? Do you actually think that people who are just like you is all that you are going to find? If yes, then y’all are who still has a lot of growing up to do. I will pray hard that it happens soon for you people too, but I am not getting my hopes up because right now I do not see that happening ever. > God bless you always!!! > Holly Even you’re not stupid enough to believe THAT’S what the issue really is here - now are you sweetie? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1145 "2013-03-13T05:53:42Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ You are never going to break me no matter what you throw at me and no matter how much it is that you decide to throw at me, but if you want to keep trying, go ahead. After all, it is your time to waste. 🙂 🙂 🙂 Ah yes, the old Sticks and Stones defense. We should all really feel sorry for JOSH if anything, because if there is a Hell, she’s definitely a prime candidate. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1146 "2013-03-13T05:54:28Z")
Who’s trying to break you? Seems to me a lot of people are tyring to inform you that certain habits (lying, judging, condemning) are uncool. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1147 "2013-03-13T05:55:48Z")
^^^ All of you are trying to break which is something that is never going to happen and I already know that lying judging and condemning are uncool. It is the rest of you people who have yet to learn such a thing. > [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Ah yes, the old Sticks and Stones defense. > > We should all really feel sorry for JOSH if anything, because if there is a Hell, she’s definitely a prime candidate. I don’t know about that. I have heard that virgins are not allowed in Hell. If this is true, where am I to go if I am not good enough for the Lord either? > [@deltasigma](#): > > Even you’re not stupid enough to believe THAT’S what the issue really is here - now are you sweetie? 😉 Well that **is** how this all got started and what has ticked y’all off even more is the fact that I haven’t been scared to fire back what you people decided to throw at me first. God bless you two always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1148 "2013-03-13T05:58:48Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ Well that **is** how this all got started and what has ticked y’all off even more is the fact that I haven’t been scared to fire back what you people decided to throw at me first. > God bless you always!!! > Holly No, here’s the problem. It’s about respecting how people feel. Let me give you an example. Let’s say I see you at a JO concert and I think you look like a fat pig. That’s my honest opinion and believe. Do I have an obligation to share that with you even though I know it will offend you or do I SHUT THE FUCK UP? I know this will require some careful thought, so I’ll wait while you mull this over. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1149 "2013-03-13T06:03:54Z")
^^^ What makes you think that saying such a thing about me is going to offend me? What you think will not matter to me anyways because it is my body, no one else’s, and I will do whatever it is that I want with it and if other people do not like how I look, that is there problem and no one else’s. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1150 "2013-03-13T06:06:09Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ What makes you think that saying such a thing about me is going to offend me? What you think will not matter to me anyways because it is my body, no one else’s, and I will do whatever it is that I want with it and if other people do not like how I look, that is there problem and no one else’s. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > God bless you always!!! > Holly And yet you claimed before that I insulted you. So how exactly did I manage that because I really want to do it again. Thanks. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1151 "2013-03-13T06:10:49Z")
^^^ What I was referring to is the fact that y’all chose to jump on me when y’all didn’t like what I choose to stand for. Well what is it that makes y’all think that I will not fire back at you what y’all throw at me first? God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1152 "2013-03-13T06:14:16Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ What I was referring to is the fact that y’all chose to jump on me when y’all didn’t like what I choose to stand for. Well what is it that makes y’all think that I will not fire back at you what y’all throw at me first? > God bless you always!!! > Holly You have the attention span of a fruit fly don’t you Trolly? ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1153 "2013-03-13T06:24:34Z")
^^^ I won’t answer your question until you answer mine. **What is it that makes y’all think that I will not fire back at you what y’all throw at me first?** God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1154 "2013-03-13T06:27:51Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ I won’t answer your question until you answer mine. **What is it that makes y’all think that I will not fire back at you what y’all throw at me first?** > God bless you always!!! > Holly I won’t answer your question until you can manage to follow the conversation. Let’s see if you even know what that was about. Hahaha! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1155 "2013-03-13T06:35:48Z")
^^^ If anyone can’t follow a conversation, it is most definitely **you**. God bless you always!!! Holly P.S. I’m still waiting for an answer and my question came first whether you like it or not: **What is it that makes y’all think that I will not fire back at y’all what y’all throw at me first?** ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1156 "2013-03-13T06:38:03Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ If anyone can’t follow a conversation, it is most definitely **you**. > God bless you always!!! > Holly > P.S. I’m still waiting for an answer and my question came first whether you like it or not: **What is it that makes y’all think that I will not fire back at you what y’all throw at me first?** Sorry sweetie, but you’re the one who decided to just wander off. The fact you have no recollection of this isn’t my problem just like how people react to you isn’t yours. That analogy should clear things up for you right? Hehehe. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1157 "2013-03-13T06:40:28Z")
^^^ If you are not going to answer what I ask you, **I am most definitely not going to answer anything that you ask me.** God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1158 "2013-03-13T06:42:48Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ If you are not going to answer what I ask you, **I am most definitely not going to answer anything that you ask me.** > God bless you always!!! > Holly Oh no Trolly. Don’t go! I can’t survive without the wisdom you impart. Oh god, just typing that made me puke a little. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1159 "2013-03-13T07:07:02Z")
I play Battle Pirates. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1160 "2013-03-13T07:07:40Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > So maybe it’s time to move on? I realize I’m being a hypocrite. I piled on the abuse early in this thread. But come on, Holly’s attackers are starting to look kinda ridiculous. > > She is posting ok stuff in other threads, mainly involving music. For whatever length of time she has dealt with caring for her mother, and she has used coping mechanisms for handling adversity like we all have. > > No, I haven’t found The Lord, I’m still a strong atheist. So strong that I can accept the ceremonial deism I see all the time. I wish Holly only the best and feel like a jerk for my earlier behavior. > > So, move on? I don’t think that I ever did address this message and if I really didn’t already, I am so sorry. Thank you for what you say about me here. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you always!!! Holly [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=57) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=59)