# James Otto Sweet Heart and Damning Suicides to Hell **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 19, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764 "2013-02-19T03:08:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 60
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1181 "2013-03-13T17:53:24Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > Can a mod please kill this thread? I’m not suggesting banning JOSH, but the thread has become as monotonous as a stuck-record. Same shit, different page. It’s not becoming of the board, and I’m suffering from a smilie-overdose. Maybe if I wasn’t acknowledged so much by everyone else here, you wouldn’t see as much from me at this forum. You would then only just see my two cents in the chats here that interest me enough. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you always!!! Holly P.S. Those who do think that I am worth writing too though, I am not one to turn my nose up at such a thing. I do appreciate your thinking about me…even if them thoughts of me that you have are not the greatest. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1182 "2013-03-13T17:59:50Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#): > > If God decided to commit suicide, would it be a sin? :):)🙂 God read this thread and immediately shot himself in the face. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1183 "2013-03-13T18:09:38Z")
^^^ If such a thing were to really happen, I don’t believe that we would still be here then. God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1184 "2013-03-13T18:20:29Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ If such a thing were to really happen, I don’t believe that we would still be here then. > God bless you always!!! > Holly You don’t think God could survive a gunshot? ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1185 "2013-03-13T18:24:45Z")
^^^ Sure, but if he wasn’t here anymore, we would all be gone then too. God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1186 "2013-03-13T18:35:59Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ Sure, but if he wasn’t here anymore, we would all be gone then too. Why? Are you saying we’re only dreams inside of God’s head? I thought he created us out of earth and firmament. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1187 "2013-03-13T18:47:16Z")
^^^ No matter how he created us, since he is who created us, I believe that if he wasn’t here anymore, we wouldn’t be here anymore either. God bless you always!!! Holly P.S. I have to go for now. Lord willing I will be back later though. I pray that you have a wonderful rest of the day. 🙂 🙂 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1188 "2013-03-13T18:53:19Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > Can a mod please kill this thread? I’m not suggesting banning JOSH, but the thread has become as monotonous as a stuck-record. Same shit, different page. It’s not becoming of the board, and I’m suffering from a smilie-overdose. > > For the love of FUCKING GOD, KILL IT, KILL IT NOW. > > We beseech you Lords of the SDMB. > [@Anonymous User](#): > > +1 > > It is a useless thread that isn’t even slightly meaningful at this point. It must really suck to have someone holding a gun to your head forcing you to post in this thread. > [@Bob Ducca](#): > > Why? > > Are you saying we’re only dreams inside of God’s head? I thought he created us out of earth and firmament. He did. But you see the Earth and Firmament are only dreams inside Gods’ head. ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1189 "2013-03-13T19:16:07Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > The Lord gave his life so that we could have one of our own. If that is considered suicide, what do you call the act of taking your own life as a favor to yourself? I don’t know about you, but I call that flat out selfish in the worst way because you are putting what you think that you need first before the needs and feelings of those that you are going to leave behind. I knew a guy on GameFAQs that killed himself because he couldn’t find a job and felt like a burden to his family. Drank bleach, threw it up, then returned and posted saying it was the worst pain he’d ever been in, before finally dying. Obituaries were posted and Jack Thompson responded (this was before he was disbarred). Was the GameFAQser committing suicide as a favour to himself? Will he be tortured in hell for all eternity, in your opinion? > [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ The Lord gave his life in order to save us from a horrible fate, so why should a person stand there and let another person try to bring a horrible fate back on them??? Why let someone get away with trying to make what the Lord did for us go all to waste??? The horrible fate was oblivion. No earthly person can cause another to be obliterated. Jesus provides pretty explicit instructions in the Gospels for rules to follow in order to escape hell. I’d recommend reading the Gospels and _seriously_ considering why you’d follow your conscience or your preacher’s teachings above those of your God. Out of interest, why do you think virgins don’t go to hell? There are mortal sins not related to sex such as avarice. If I were a demoniac rules lawyer, I’d just rape people in the afterlife so that they’d qualify. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1190 "2013-03-13T22:50:40Z")
^^^ A family will never get whatever help it is that they need now that the person that you are asking me about isn’t here anymore so to me, he did **no one** a favor. To answer your second question, there is a line in one of my most favorite songs from country singer Trace Adkins that goes like this, “I don’t know what you’ve been told but there ain’t no virgins here.” That is what makes me wonder about what happens to those who never go all the way with anyone if the line in that song is true. God bless you and Trace always!!! Holly (a day one fan of him) P.S. Go [here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRxEXryTQxo) to listen to the song that I tell about here. Its really good. 🙂 🙂 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1191 "2013-03-13T23:08:49Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > > [@kambuckta](#): > > > > Can a mod please kill this thread? I’m not suggesting banning JOSH, but the thread has become as monotonous as a stuck-record. Same shit, different page. It’s not becoming of the board, and I’m suffering from a smilie-overdose. > > > > For the love of FUCKING GOD, KILL IT, KILL IT NOW. > > > > We beseech you Lords of the SDMB. > > > [@Anonymous User](#): > > > > +1 > > > > It is a useless thread that isn’t even slightly meaningful at this point. > > It must really suck to have someone holding a gun to your head forcing you to post in this thread. Look who’s talking: the guy who bumped this idiotic thread. This thread was finally at rest; what was the need to bump it? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1192 "2013-03-13T23:10:16Z")
James Otto Sweet Heart, I’m no country singer, but I am, (ahem) single. God, this part always makes me nervous and sweaty…Umm…ha, ummm… do you like pizza? ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1193 "2013-03-13T23:24:14Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > To answer your second question, there is a line in one of my most favorite songs from country singer Trace Adkins that goes like this, “I don’t know what you’ve been told but there ain’t no virgins here.” That is what makes me wonder about what happens to those who never go all the way with anyone if the line in that song is true. > > P.S. Go [here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRxEXryTQxo) to listen to the song that I tell about here. Its really good. 🙂 🙂 🙂 I just read the lyrics, and I don’t know if you understand the winking nature of that song. He describes being sent to hell, hot with fire, because of his final sin - which by the lyric Holly quotes above is inferred to be of a sexual nature. However, the very final lines in the song reveal the true point of the song: > [@](#): > > - > > Welcome to Hell, boy… > You’re gonna love it. > \* It’s actually a song about doin’ the nasty nasty, and that Hell is a great time! Holly, How can you quote that portion of the song to make your point about virginity, but not also agree with the song’s message that casual sex is worth going to Hell for, and also a very desirable choice? ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1194 "2013-03-13T23:26:28Z")
> [@Anonymous User](#): > > Look who’s talking: the guy who bumped this idiotic thread. This thread was finally at rest; what was the need to bump it? Drunky Smurf isn’t wrong. If you don’t like the thread, spend your time elsewhere. Like another message board, preferably. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1195 "2013-03-13T23:55:39Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > God read this thread and immediately shot himself in the face. 😃 Thanks, I needed a good laugh today. R.I.P. God (beginning of time - March 13, 2013) ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1196 "2013-03-14T00:01:20Z")
**JOSH** : Could God create a boulder so heavy that he couldn’t lift it? If you don’t know the answer, please raise the question with Him in one of your prayers. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1197 "2013-03-14T00:29:53Z")
^^^ I believe that there isn’t anything that God can’t lift. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > [@bobot](#): > > James Otto Sweet Heart, I’m no country singer, but I am, (ahem) single. God, this part always makes me nervous and sweaty..Umm..ha, ummm.. do you like pizza? It sounds like you are trying to ask me out on a date here. If you are, I just have one question for you. What is it that I have done that has made you interested in me enough to ask me out on one? 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you and AnalogSignal always!!! Holly P.S. I love pizza, but I don’t know anything about you except for where you are, Chicago-ish that is, which is no where near where I am. ---
**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1198 "2013-03-14T00:49:20Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ I believe that there isn’t anything that God can’t lift. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > It sounds like you are trying to ask me out on a date here. If you are, I just have one question for you. What is it that I have done that has made you interested in me enough to ask me out on one? 🙂 🙂 🙂 > God bless you and AnalogSignal always!!! > Holly > P.S. I love pizza, but I don’t know anything about you except for where you are, Chicago-ish that is, which is no where near where I am. Well, if you don’t want to go out with **bobot** , I know a guy who’ll gladly take a bus to come to wherever you are. ---
**Author:** ![April\_R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@April\_R](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/April_R)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1199 "2013-03-14T00:51:17Z")
OMG, you don’t seriously think he was actually asking you out right? ---
**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1200 "2013-03-14T00:55:26Z")
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