# James Otto Sweet Heart and Damning Suicides to Hell **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 19, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764 "2013-02-19T03:08:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 64
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1261 "2013-03-14T23:39:12Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > I never did address this. No matter how you meant this, I am going to take it as a compliment. Thank you. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > God bless you always!!! > Holly you should. You’re not a very good troll but you’re also too timid to ever break any of the rules so egregiously that you would get an outright ban. And just like you wear your ignorance as a badge of honor, I know that you feel the same about your being timid. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1262 "2013-03-14T23:44:47Z")
^^^ I am not a very good troll? Maybe that is because I am not a troll period. God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1263 "2013-03-14T23:48:36Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ I am not a very good troll? Maybe that is because I am not a troll period. > God bless you always!!! > Holly No of course not. If you admitted that it would mean giving up all of the attention you get here. But I know how much you need that which I why I’m happy to contribute from time to time. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1264 "2013-03-14T23:53:14Z")
^^^ What makes you think that I am the one who needs the attention? Look at all of the people here who apparently are hurting for a piece of mine and if they aren’t why do they keep writing to me then? God bless you and them always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1265 "2013-03-14T23:56:31Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ What makes you think that I am the one who needs the attention? Look at all of the people here who apparently are hurting for a piece of mine and if they aren’t why do they keep writing to me then? > God bless you and them always!!! > Holly Yes, a thread with over 1200 posts couldn’t have gotten that way except if you been dragged along kicking and screaming. AHAHAHAHAHA!!! :smack: ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1266 "2013-03-15T00:05:50Z")
^^^ Do you see me named as the person who got this chat started? No. Another person did and since they named it after me, it was only fair that make at least one appearance in it, but once I showed up, everyone started writing to me. Its as if I have all of a suddenly become a celebrity and y’all are my “fans”. Well where I come from, you don’t cold shoulder your fans. You give them what they want when they ask for it as best as you can. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1267 "2013-03-15T00:08:13Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ Do you see me named as the person who got this chat started? No. Another person did and since they named it after me, it was only fair that make at least one appearance in it, but once I showed up, everyone started writing to me. Its as if I have all of a suddenly become a celebrity and y’all are my “fans”. Well where I come from, you don’t cold shoulder your fans. You give them what they want when they ask for it as best as you can. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > God bless you always!!! > Holly Precisely! And in your mind that’s exactly how you imagine it isn’t it? Thank you for just confirming what everyone here already believed about your motivations Trolly. Brava!!! 😛 😃 😛 😃 ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1268 "2013-03-15T00:13:26Z")
^^^ To me, people who start chats are those who are wanting some kind of attention. So far, I have only started three at this forum. How many have you started in your few months of being here? 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1269 "2013-03-15T00:15:52Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ To me, people who start chats are those who are wanting some kind of attention. So far, I have only started three at this forum. How many have you started in your few months of being here? 🙂 🙂 🙂 > God bless you always!!! > Holly Oh now don’t try to be modest and change the subject sweetie. The cat’s already out of the bag. Hehehe.😃 ---
**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1270 "2013-03-15T00:17:13Z")
Andraste’s ass, for the 9,190,236,675th time, this. Is. Not. A. Chat. It. Is. A. THREAD! And considering that my comment was a politer way of saying “You’re reveling in being as annoying and stubborn as all git-out, while being very careful not to break the rules outright so you can keep on doing it”… if you’re that desperate for a compliment, I’m glad to oblige. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1271 "2013-03-15T00:20:54Z")
^^^ You call it what you want and I will call it what I want. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > [@deltasigma](#): > > Oh now don’t try to be modest and change the subject sweetie. The cat’s already out of the bag. Hehehe.😃 Is there any special reason why you won’t answer what I asked you? How many have you started? God bless you two always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1272 "2013-03-15T00:24:20Z")
Notice how JOSH always uses **three** of these symbols: > [@](#): > > ^^^ > !!! > :):)🙂 OCD? ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1273 "2013-03-15T00:25:13Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ You call it what you want and I will call it what I want. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > Is there any special reason why you won’t answer what I asked you? How many have you started? > God bless you two always!!! > Holly Yes. I don’t want your admission to get buried too many pages down so I’m going to bow out for a while and let the rest of the forum catch up on your confession. Besides. This YOUR thread sweetie. I don’t want you to have to share the limelight. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1274 "2013-03-15T00:29:25Z")
^^^ I have heard it say that “the more the merrier”. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1275 "2013-03-15T00:30:04Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ You call it what you want and I will call it what I want. 🙂 🙂 🙂 Despite the fact that it’s been pointed out repeatedly that it’s bothering people, much the same way you persist in blessing people who have asked you to stop. _Quelle surprise_ (not). ---
**Author:** ![The\_Dord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@The\_Dord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Dord)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1276 "2013-03-15T00:31:00Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#): > > Notice how JOSH always uses **three** of these symbols: > OCD? Yes, she’s an Obsessive Compulsive Dumbass. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1277 "2013-03-15T00:33:09Z")
> [@ugly ripe tomato](#): > > Despite the fact that it’s been pointed out repeatedly that it’s bothering people, much the same way you persist in blessing people who have asked you to stop. _Quelle surprise_ (not). Y’all have your ways about yourself and I have mine. I have to go for now. James is getting ready to do his online concert in less than 30 minutes. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you and him always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1278 "2013-03-15T00:35:07Z")
> [@living\_in\_hell](#): > > Holly lacks some social skills, no doubt. She is well beyond lacking in social skills. I don’t doubt that is part of her problem but she is so completely selfish that she just takes it to a new level. Add to that her obsession with God or Jesus or whoever, and certain country music stars and her absolute refusal to try to fit in, and you have the makings of a troll. > [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > If you think that I fired first by sharing what it is that I believe, the last time that I checked, I had a right to share my beliefs whether anyone likes what they are or not. That excuse hasn’t worked in any of the 304,724 times you’ve tried it because it has nothing to do with the subject. You don’t like it when we swear or call you a liar, yet the two simple things you’ve been asked to do, all we get is it’s your “right to share” your beliefs. And one of them has nothing to do with your “beliefs”! We aren’t talking rights here twitling, we are talking about those social skills that **living\_in\_hell** talked about. Since you’ve been posting here, most people now have negative opinions of James Otto and your weird convoluted religion, not to mention you yourself. Was that your goal? > [@](#): > > **If my message had just been ignored, we wouldn’t be where we are now.** Which brings me to this question here **Is this the kind of conversation that the rest of y’all wanted to have happen?** Your original “message” was vile, hateful and hurtful. What we wanted to have happen was maybe for you to see that, or at least agree that you aren’t going to do it again. Since then, you have provided other examples of how you have no consideration for the feelings of others, yet you keep demanding we consider yours. Ain’t gonna happen as long as you keep acting like a spiteful self-centered bitch. > [@](#): > > but if I am asked what it is that I think, Not only did no one ask you, we have specifically asked you to _not_ continue to force your beliefs on us. > [@](#): > > **Since when does a person need permission to share what it is that they believe?** [/color] Again, it has nothing to do with rights. It has to do with being considerate of the majority. This message board is not for dribbling on about favorite celebrities or pushing a religious agenda. Individual _threads_ might be, but not the whole board. You refuse to see that. > [@](#): > > To answer your second question, if I happen to see someone getting ready to end their life in anyway, I will do what I can to try and stop them. That is a whole other thing than “letting them get away with it”, which is what you said. And given your complete lack of consideration for the feelings of others, there is no way you would endanger yourself in the slightest to prevent a stranger from committing suicide. You lie. ---
**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1279 "2013-03-15T00:41:50Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > Y’all have your ways about yourself and I have mine. I have to go for now. James is getting ready to do his online concert in less than 30 minutes. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > God bless you and him always!!! > Holly Quite so. My way is, when entering a community, to learn about and abide by the rules of that community. If requested to stop doing something that the community disapproves of, I stop doing it. Oddly enough, the vast majority of people act in that same way. It’s called… what is the word… oh, yes. Manners. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1280 "2013-03-15T02:31:22Z")
^^^ If you don’t like that I keep God around by saying “God bless you always!!!” when everyone else is trying to get rid of him, **YOU** are the one with the problem, not me. > [@curlcoat](#): > > She is well beyond lacking in social skills. I don’t doubt that is part of her problem but she is so completely selfish that she just takes it to a new level. Add to that her obsession with God or Jesus or whoever, and certain country music stars and her absolute refusal to try to fit in, and you have the makings of a troll. A true blooded troll says anything whether it has anything to do with the subject of the chat or not. > [@curlcoat](#): > > That excuse hasn’t worked in any of the 304,724 times you’ve tried it because it has nothing to do with the subject. You don’t like it when we swear or call you a liar, yet the two simple things you’ve been asked to do, all we get is it’s your “right to share” your beliefs. And one of them has nothing to do with your “beliefs”! We aren’t talking rights here twitling, we are talking about those social skills that **living\_in\_hell** talked about. If you don’t like the way that I communicate with others, I am not the one who has a problem. > [@curlcoat](#): > > Since you’ve been posting here, most people now have negative opinions of James Otto and your weird convoluted religion, not to mention you yourself. Was that your goal? No that was not my intention, but if people choose to have certain feelings about me, once again, I am not the one who has a problem. Even if people here now have negative thoughts about my favorites, oh well. This isn’t the only forum that I go to and at a good deal of the others ones that I go to, I have gotten a way better response about my favorites than I have at this one, so no worries concerning this matter that you bring up here. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > [@curlcoat](#): > > Your original “message” was vile, hateful and hurtful. What we wanted to have happen was maybe for you to see that, or at least agree that you aren’t going to do it again. Since then, you have provided other examples of how you have no consideration for the feelings of others, yet you keep demanding we consider yours. Ain’t gonna happen as long as you keep acting like a spiteful self-centered bitch. If that is how you think that I act, then how should the way that y’all act be labeled? To me, the way that y’all act is nothing but a word that I can’t say. > [@curlcoat](#): > > Not only did no one ask you, we have specifically asked you to _not_ continue to force your beliefs on us. Well if we can’t share anything about ourselves, what is the purpose of a message forum at all then? > [@curlcoat](#): > > Again, it has nothing to do with rights. It has to do with being considerate of the majority. This message board is not for dribbling on about favorite celebrities or pushing a religious agenda. Individual _threads_ might be, but not the whole board. You refuse to see that. If you run a search of all the messages that I have left here, you will see that not all of them are about my favorite celebrities or where I stand on religious matters. > [@curlcoat](#): > > That is a whole other thing than “letting them get away with it”, which is what you said. And given your complete lack of consideration for the feelings of others, there is no way you would endanger yourself in the slightest to prevent a stranger from committing suicide. > > You lie. I lie to no one and if I were to see someone try to take their life, I would do what I can to stop them whether you believe that about me or not. God bless you two always!!! Holly [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=63) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=65)